gunsnewing wrote:Some people don't need multiple sources. They are free thinkers and sometimes can smell a rat from afar

And I can't smell a troll apparently!

I actually want to +1 this post just for the hell of it! It might need to be my sig.

H1AND1 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Nalod wrote:I vote for Hilary over trump even if she is on Chemo, one lung and in a coma.

what about if hillary can be replaced with someone else (biden?) who you can vote for? What if in 2 weeks we find out that hillary is too unhealthy to run and just drops out?

Another poster pointed out earlier you can't change the state ballots this late.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/09/if-hillary-had-to-leave-the-ticket-this-is-how-a-n.html

The bottom line is that if Clinton dropped out before September ends, with plenty of time before the general election, all indications are that the DNC could anoint the candidate of its choice—again, likely Kaine, Biden, or Sanders—and make the late substitution with only the slim possibility of extreme GOP legal obstructionism getting in the way. After September, it would be a huge mess that would increase American political self-loathing by 300 percent.

So, there’s your answer—now let’s hope Clinton returns to the campaign trail later this week in good health, and this is all a moot point.

OK, that's good to know

Yep, I was just about to post a similar article since I was the one who posted that it's too late. It's too late for a newcomer to enter the election but the GOP and/or Dem's can annoint a new candidate if their elected nominee has to drop out.

It is plain to see if you are open to looking that cleary HRC is hiding a more serious illness. Why would she be playing with her grandchildren 2 days after supposedly getting a diagnosis of Pneumonia? Or let a little girl come up to her on the streets? Obviously staged. The most damning evidence is that calmness of her team around the van. It has happened before and they know how to react. Very plain to see that. No conspiracies are needed.

Briggs/Martin - she coughed at the Benghazi hearing in October, 2015. Was it pneumonia then too? Recently on stage with Kaine behind her and he let her fight it for minutes without offering water or to take over. The facts are the temperatures on Sunday were not oppressive and if she has pneumonia, why was she out in public interacting with everyone in the first place? Is she intent on getting the whole world infected with it? Wouldn't a statement of her illness and then her not going been better ? The only reason, IMO, that the pneumonia "diagnosis" is out there is because of the video made by chance by a citizen. HAd the USSS been not so much in a hurry to get her out, I doubt the video would have ever made the light of day. The video maker may be homeless too soon.

This is just another clear sign of lying and cover up just like the countless of other scandals she has been involved in, her entire life.

Also, pointing out that Trump's faults does not exonerate HRC at all or make anything above not true. Obviously he is a flawed candidate as well. We the people should DEMAND better out of all our politicians.

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Left with two non-presidential material choices, it is clear that the "masses" are being duped and falling for it!

It is plain to see if you are open to looking that cleary HRC is hiding a more serious illness. Why would she be playing with her grandchildren 2 days after supposedly getting a diagnosis of Pneumonia? Or let a little girl come up to her on the streets? Obviously staged. The most damning evidence is that calmness of her team around the van. It has happened before and they know how to react. Very plain to see that. No conspiracies are needed.

Briggs/Martin - she coughed at the Benghazi hearing in October, 2015. Was it pneumonia then too? Recently on stage with Kaine behind her and he let her fight it for minutes without offering water or to take over. The facts are the temperatures on Sunday were not oppressive and if she has pneumonia, why was she out in public interacting with everyone in the first place? Is she intent on getting the whole world infected with it? Wouldn't a statement of her illness and then her not going been better ? The only reason, IMO, that the pneumonia "diagnosis" is out there is because of the video made by chance by a citizen. HAd the USSS been not so much in a hurry to get her out, I doubt the video would have ever made the light of day. The video maker may be homeless too soon.

This is just another clear sign of lying and cover up just like the countless of other scandals she has been involved in, her entire life.

Also, pointing out that Trump's faults does not exonerate HRC at all or make anything above not true. Obviously he is a flawed candidate as well. We the people should DEMAND better out of all our politicians.

Hillary called in to CNN yesterday and said: "Its something that has occurred a few times in my life and usually I can avoid it."

Does that sound like she's describing pneumonia? She can't even keep her lies straight any more.

martin wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Left with two non-presidential material choices, it is clear that the "masses" are being duped and falling for it!

It is plain to see if you are open to looking that cleary HRC is hiding a more serious illness. Why would she be playing with her grandchildren 2 days after supposedly getting a diagnosis of Pneumonia? Or let a little girl come up to her on the streets? Obviously staged. The most damning evidence is that calmness of her team around the van. It has happened before and they know how to react. Very plain to see that. No conspiracies are needed.

Briggs/Martin - she coughed at the Benghazi hearing in October, 2015. Was it pneumonia then too? Recently on stage with Kaine behind her and he let her fight it for minutes without offering water or to take over. The facts are the temperatures on Sunday were not oppressive and if she has pneumonia, why was she out in public interacting with everyone in the first place? Is she intent on getting the whole world infected with it? Wouldn't a statement of her illness and then her not going been better ? The only reason, IMO, that the pneumonia "diagnosis" is out there is because of the video made by chance by a citizen. HAd the USSS been not so much in a hurry to get her out, I doubt the video would have ever made the light of day. The video maker may be homeless too soon.

This is just another clear sign of lying and cover up just like the countless of other scandals she has been involved in, her entire life.

Also, pointing out that Trump's faults does not exonerate HRC at all or make anything above not true. Obviously he is a flawed candidate as well. We the people should DEMAND better out of all our politicians.

Hilary and reps have made it pretty clear that she has seasonal allergies. She not only also speaks but travels a ****-ton as part of this process. Seems reasonable that she would have coughing fits on a regular basis; I have for decades on a twice a year basis and I know many who also are afflicted in the same manor.

It boggles me that this isn't readily clear to everyone, and if you hadn't even heard that before, that this type of inference couldn't have been asked about. Millions suffer from it.

I know when I get heat exhaustion, I am down for the day. Usually happens first warm day of the year and overdoing it a bit. Not standing at a ceremony in the shade. Where was the sweat?

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

martin wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Left with two non-presidential material choices, it is clear that the "masses" are being duped and falling for it!

It is plain to see if you are open to looking that cleary HRC is hiding a more serious illness. Why would she be playing with her grandchildren 2 days after supposedly getting a diagnosis of Pneumonia? Or let a little girl come up to her on the streets? Obviously staged. The most damning evidence is that calmness of her team around the van. It has happened before and they know how to react. Very plain to see that. No conspiracies are needed.

Briggs/Martin - she coughed at the Benghazi hearing in October, 2015. Was it pneumonia then too? Recently on stage with Kaine behind her and he let her fight it for minutes without offering water or to take over. The facts are the temperatures on Sunday were not oppressive and if she has pneumonia, why was she out in public interacting with everyone in the first place? Is she intent on getting the whole world infected with it? Wouldn't a statement of her illness and then her not going been better ? The only reason, IMO, that the pneumonia "diagnosis" is out there is because of the video made by chance by a citizen. HAd the USSS been not so much in a hurry to get her out, I doubt the video would have ever made the light of day. The video maker may be homeless too soon.

This is just another clear sign of lying and cover up just like the countless of other scandals she has been involved in, her entire life.

Also, pointing out that Trump's faults does not exonerate HRC at all or make anything above not true. Obviously he is a flawed candidate as well. We the people should DEMAND better out of all our politicians.

Hilary and reps have made it pretty clear that she has seasonal allergies. She not only also speaks but travels a ****-ton as part of this process. Seems reasonable that she would have coughing fits on a regular basis; I have for decades on a twice a year basis and I know many who also are afflicted in the same manor.

It boggles me that this isn't readily clear to everyone, and if you hadn't even heard that before, that this type of inference couldn't have been asked about. Millions suffer from it.

I that agree allergies are a possible explanation for the coughs. usually allergies flare up in Spring and Fall. Up until the video, that is what they were sticking with. That and dehydration, overheating. After the video surfaced, then the pneumonia. While all plausible, it does not answer the question as to why she is in public or her own grandchildren with a very contagious illness.

There are at least some very plausible stuff out there, and yet you concluded and wrote above "This is just another clear sign of lying and cover up just like the countless of other scandals she has been involved in, her entire life."

You jump right to "lying" and "cover up" in the context of Hilary or her team not giving you enough of a minute by minute update on a day-to-day fit with what seems to be allergies that may have compounded to walking pneumonia and some interaction with grandchildren?

People of all sorts get dehydrated too. That makes sense in the context of pneumonia, and they also faint if they push themselves really hard in the context of what they are doing. We saw it with Michael Jordan at the prime of his physical peak and Dwight Howard this past weekend who was hospitalized because of dehydration. We all have traveled that one time where it put us flat on our backs, try doing it for 52 straight weeks while working every day for a year; that's the environment in which some candidates and politicians work.

Is this the case of cover up and lying? Is this the case of something that is so banal and every day that the rest of us are trying to fish for something where there is really no there there?

I think it is completely reasonable to get a full health status from both candidates; the working environment for a President is brutal, the same way it is with a Secretary of State (4 years there and not a problem keeping up). Hilary's reputation as the Secretary of State was that she was a bad-ass workhorse who traveled internationally more than any candidate previously (she likes to use the word FUCK a lot and enjoys her drink, whiskey I think). She is a wife who has survived the scrutiny and media microscope of a philandering, personally dumbass husband.

martin wrote:

reub wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Left with two non-presidential material choices, it is clear that the "masses" are being duped and falling for it!

It is plain to see if you are open to looking that cleary HRC is hiding a more serious illness. Why would she be playing with her grandchildren 2 days after supposedly getting a diagnosis of Pneumonia? Or let a little girl come up to her on the streets? Obviously staged. The most damning evidence is that calmness of her team around the van. It has happened before and they know how to react. Very plain to see that. No conspiracies are needed.

Briggs/Martin - she coughed at the Benghazi hearing in October, 2015. Was it pneumonia then too? Recently on stage with Kaine behind her and he let her fight it for minutes without offering water or to take over. The facts are the temperatures on Sunday were not oppressive and if she has pneumonia, why was she out in public interacting with everyone in the first place? Is she intent on getting the whole world infected with it? Wouldn't a statement of her illness and then her not going been better ? The only reason, IMO, that the pneumonia "diagnosis" is out there is because of the video made by chance by a citizen. HAd the USSS been not so much in a hurry to get her out, I doubt the video would have ever made the light of day. The video maker may be homeless too soon.

This is just another clear sign of lying and cover up just like the countless of other scandals she has been involved in, her entire life.

Also, pointing out that Trump's faults does not exonerate HRC at all or make anything above not true. Obviously he is a flawed candidate as well. We the people should DEMAND better out of all our politicians.

Hillary called in to CNN yesterday and said: "Its something that has occurred a few times in my life and usually I can avoid it."

Does that sound like she's describing pneumonia? She can't even keep her lies straight any more.

It sounds like she isn't describing anything. What was the question and the context of conversation.

The quote above is much ado about nothing.

I heard the whole thing--she was asked about previous fainting spills and she said she could recall only a couple. On the same day Bill said it happened a few maybe 5 times. I guess she just has a penchant for coughing and fainting?

BRIGGS wrote:

martin wrote:

reub wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Left with two non-presidential material choices, it is clear that the "masses" are being duped and falling for it!

It is plain to see if you are open to looking that cleary HRC is hiding a more serious illness. Why would she be playing with her grandchildren 2 days after supposedly getting a diagnosis of Pneumonia? Or let a little girl come up to her on the streets? Obviously staged. The most damning evidence is that calmness of her team around the van. It has happened before and they know how to react. Very plain to see that. No conspiracies are needed.

Briggs/Martin - she coughed at the Benghazi hearing in October, 2015. Was it pneumonia then too? Recently on stage with Kaine behind her and he let her fight it for minutes without offering water or to take over. The facts are the temperatures on Sunday were not oppressive and if she has pneumonia, why was she out in public interacting with everyone in the first place? Is she intent on getting the whole world infected with it? Wouldn't a statement of her illness and then her not going been better ? The only reason, IMO, that the pneumonia "diagnosis" is out there is because of the video made by chance by a citizen. HAd the USSS been not so much in a hurry to get her out, I doubt the video would have ever made the light of day. The video maker may be homeless too soon.

This is just another clear sign of lying and cover up just like the countless of other scandals she has been involved in, her entire life.

Also, pointing out that Trump's faults does not exonerate HRC at all or make anything above not true. Obviously he is a flawed candidate as well. We the people should DEMAND better out of all our politicians.

Hillary called in to CNN yesterday and said: "Its something that has occurred a few times in my life and usually I can avoid it."

Does that sound like she's describing pneumonia? She can't even keep her lies straight any more.

It sounds like she isn't describing anything. What was the question and the context of conversation.

The quote above is much ado about nothing.

I heard the whole thing--she was asked about previous fainting spills and she said she could recall only a couple. On the same day Bill said it happened a few maybe 5 times. I guess she just has a penchant for coughing and fainting?

BRIGGS, seriously. You're a super smart guy and I still would love to run into you at a Knicks game and personally thank you for the tickets a number of years back. If you want to get into a serious decision on politics, I'd love do so but feel free to start with not using videos that are absolute crap and don't get your info from Fox News.

When you say "she was asked about previous fainting spills and she said she could recall only a couple" there is no context for me or you about what she was asked and why she answered what she did and how it relates to what Bill said and what he was asked. They could be 2 different topics and 2 different timelines. How is anyone supposed to respond to you post, it's context and fact free. No links to articles, no nothing.

martin wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

martin wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Left with two non-presidential material choices, it is clear that the "masses" are being duped and falling for it!

It is plain to see if you are open to looking that cleary HRC is hiding a more serious illness. Why would she be playing with her grandchildren 2 days after supposedly getting a diagnosis of Pneumonia? Or let a little girl come up to her on the streets? Obviously staged. The most damning evidence is that calmness of her team around the van. It has happened before and they know how to react. Very plain to see that. No conspiracies are needed.

Briggs/Martin - she coughed at the Benghazi hearing in October, 2015. Was it pneumonia then too? Recently on stage with Kaine behind her and he let her fight it for minutes without offering water or to take over. The facts are the temperatures on Sunday were not oppressive and if she has pneumonia, why was she out in public interacting with everyone in the first place? Is she intent on getting the whole world infected with it? Wouldn't a statement of her illness and then her not going been better ? The only reason, IMO, that the pneumonia "diagnosis" is out there is because of the video made by chance by a citizen. HAd the USSS been not so much in a hurry to get her out, I doubt the video would have ever made the light of day. The video maker may be homeless too soon.

This is just another clear sign of lying and cover up just like the countless of other scandals she has been involved in, her entire life.

Also, pointing out that Trump's faults does not exonerate HRC at all or make anything above not true. Obviously he is a flawed candidate as well. We the people should DEMAND better out of all our politicians.

Hilary and reps have made it pretty clear that she has seasonal allergies. She not only also speaks but travels a ****-ton as part of this process. Seems reasonable that she would have coughing fits on a regular basis; I have for decades on a twice a year basis and I know many who also are afflicted in the same manor.

It boggles me that this isn't readily clear to everyone, and if you hadn't even heard that before, that this type of inference couldn't have been asked about. Millions suffer from it.

I that agree allergies are a possible explanation for the coughs. usually allergies flare up in Spring and Fall. Up until the video, that is what they were sticking with. That and dehydration, overheating. After the video surfaced, then the pneumonia. While all plausible, it does not answer the question as to why she is in public or her own grandchildren with a very contagious illness.

There are at least some very plausible stuff out there, and yet you concluded and wrote above "This is just another clear sign of lying and cover up just like the countless of other scandals she has been involved in, her entire life."

You jump right to "lying" and "cover up" in the context of Hilary or her team not giving you enough of a minute by minute update on a day-to-day fit with what seems to be allergies that may have compounded to walking pneumonia and some interaction with grandchildren?

People of all sorts get dehydrated too. That makes sense in the context of pneumonia, and they also faint if they push themselves really hard in the context of what they are doing. We saw it with Michael Jordan at the prime of his physical peak and Dwight Howard this past weekend who was hospitalized because of dehydration. We all have traveled that one time where it put us flat on our backs, try doing it for 52 straight weeks while working every day for a year; that's the environment in which some candidates and politicians work.

Is this the case of cover up and lying? Is this the case of something that is so banal and every day that the rest of us are trying to fish for something where there is really no there there?

I think it is completely reasonable to get a full health status from both candidates; the working environment for a President is brutal, the same way it is with a Secretary of State (4 years there and not a problem keeping up). Hilary's reputation as the Secretary of State was that she was a bad-ass workhorse who traveled internationally more than any candidate previously (she likes to use the word FUCK a lot and enjoys her drink, whiskey I think). She is a wife who has survived the scrutiny and media microscope of a philandering, personally dumbass husband.

I think there have been countless of scandals involving HRC, in which it has been shown she has been less than truthful. You can accept it or not. They are counting on you to not accept it.

Are you saying they gave us too much information? I agree, it kind of catches them in a lie. Why would a grandmother want to do that do a grandchild? or anyone for that matter???

Again, I agree it is all very plausible. That is why they are using it. It you want to believe it, you can. If you don't there is enough suspicion to do that as well.