crzymdups wrote:yeah, i don't think it's an inexcusable loss at all. knicks played hard, didn't necessarily play well. but they competed and fought hard.

need to work on the rebounding against elite teams. amar'e coming back could help that. and amar'e being a second scorer could REALLY help balance out the lineup.

i hope amar'e can get well this season, but he shouldn't rush back if it's gonna screw up his career.

knicks really miss Lin, too.

landry has GOT to step up or ride the bench.

JR and Shump are defensive demons. JR played great, shump looked hesitant on offense.

tyson needs to get involved more - teams can't stop him inside and they'll use up all their fouls trying to stop him.

melo is playing out of his mind, really rising to the occassion, but clearly ran out of gas at the end there.

knicks played hard, good game, hate the heat.

Shump does hesitate alot - which is frustrating. He is better then he knows.

mrKnickShot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Anji wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I also saw we ran PnR with Davis and Chandler which lead to turnovers and bad shots at the end of the 24.

No, no, no, See our pick and rolls don't count because they ended with Iso and their Iso's do count as ball movement because they started with pick and rolls.

SHUT UP MEG!!!!!!!!!

Of course you have to execute properly. Just cuz you fail on one or two plays, doesn't mean you just lose composure and start jacking guarded long range shots!!! As usual you bring nothing to the conversation but garbage. If I actually say something that doesn't make sense from a BB perspective then you can say something, but i'm not saying anything that is wrong from a pure BB perspective and you know it. I never said anything about MDA or any of that crap. I'm just commenting on what the team did today.

If the team plays horrible offense but makes shots, it's OK with some of you. Now they lose a game with horrible offensive execution and bad decision making and miss those same kind of shots, then we should be allowed to say it.

So who are you calling out with all this "bad offense" that has them 13-5? Woody? Thats funny. You would never call out MDA for HORRENDOUS DEFENSE! Or His dumb offense that did not fit this team. Interesting ....

I figured you would come out after you butt buddy Anji started commenting. Why are you making up more false arguments when I never said anything like what you're making up now? You and Anji tend to do this over and over again. Why are you still talking about MDA in this thread? I commented on what the team actually did on the floor. I didn't call anyone out specifically. I blamed the entire team for not playing good BB. Woody clearly instructed them during a timeout to not look for long jumpers but to drive more.

What are you actually arguing for or against here? Today in this game the Knicks offense was spotty and was awful in the late 4th qtr. Are you defending how the team executed on offense in this game? What exactly is your point in this game thread?

Hope Tyson's knee is okay.

nixluva wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Anji wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I also saw we ran PnR with Davis and Chandler which lead to turnovers and bad shots at the end of the 24.

No, no, no, See our pick and rolls don't count because they ended with Iso and their Iso's do count as ball movement because they started with pick and rolls.

SHUT UP MEG!!!!!!!!!

Of course you have to execute properly. Just cuz you fail on one or two plays, doesn't mean you just lose composure and start jacking guarded long range shots!!! As usual you bring nothing to the conversation but garbage. If I actually say something that doesn't make sense from a BB perspective then you can say something, but i'm not saying anything that is wrong from a pure BB perspective and you know it. I never said anything about MDA or any of that crap. I'm just commenting on what the team did today.

If the team plays horrible offense but makes shots, it's OK with some of you. Now they lose a game with horrible offensive execution and bad decision making and miss those same kind of shots, then we should be allowed to say it.

So who are you calling out with all this "bad offense" that has them 13-5? Woody? Thats funny. You would never call out MDA for HORRENDOUS DEFENSE! Or His dumb offense that did not fit this team. Interesting ....

I figured you would come out after you butt buddy Anji started commenting. Why are you making up more false arguments when I never said anything like what you're making up now? You and Anji tend to do this over and over again. Why are you still talking about MDA in this thread? I commented on what the team actually did on the floor. I didn't call anyone out specifically. I blamed the entire team for not playing good BB. Woody clearly instructed them during a timeout to not look for long jumpers but to drive more.

What are you actually arguing for or against here? Today in this game the Knicks offense was spotty and was awful in the late 4th qtr. Are you defending how the team executed on offense in this game? What exactly is your point in this game thread?

Name the team that is a winner and has a smooth offense without a PG or a second option.

And btw, Anji does have a great Butt - you should try it.

FoeDiddy wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Clean wrote:Woody just saidh e should have stayed with Shump LOL. I think it was pretty obvious that he should have never gotten Fields back in the game. He took Shump out right after he was giving it to wade.

How about BD? That guy is the biggest disaster!

Davis is just as bad as fields i mean the guy cant move anymore or penetrate

Davis didn't play that bad. That charge was a bad call..he got clobbered before he even ran guy over. Add to that he is only playing out of necessity being injured. He seems to start the game playing at a good level and as minutes mount gets worse and worse. Injury effect.

1-6 FG 4 assists and 5 AWFUL turnovers! Very solid game - REALLY?????????????????

I'm talking in comparison to Fields. He did some good things. defense, some nifty passes. He's injured out there so I can't put him on the same level as Fields.

shump was injured how many steals did he have on wade

How about his offense? Baron play'd some solid defense as well. Fields did zilch on both ends. He was in his own level of ineptitude today.

FoeDiddy, I can't believe you are defending BD. TD could have done a better job!

So you think TD could have done better? LOL..that's hilarious. I'm not defending BD. I'm just saying he did some positive things and I appreciate him playing injured for team cause of Lin's injury and TD stinkyness. Remember how great BD looked playing his role with 2nd team? If Lin was healthy he would not have play'd for a week or two to heal up.

He kills the shot clock, still thinks he is the/a star and I can't stand him! He is and always was a me-first player. I love when we don't get into our offense until 22 on the shot clock. He stunk - case closed. As JVG says: If you're on the floor then injury is not an excuse.

Knicksfan wrote:Foe, when you get to a point in the 4th quarter where you grab a 4 pt. lead with half a quarter to go, its inexcusable to suddenly lose focus on both ends and trail by double digits. I love the Knicks and Im proud of how they've battled without 2 of their best players and have had a great run, playing great defense. BUT, this is playoff basketball now, we are facing our possible playoff opponent and we have no excuses being that we work hard to get a lead in the 4th.

How is it possible to allow the Heat run away from you in the 4th after getting the lead? That is inexcusable. And the way they did it, moving from what was working to practically laying dead shooting terrible jumpers and matador D.

They played well most of the game, but those last 6 minutes were simply disgusting and the reason we lost a game that was winnable.

Can't really argue this. But, when the Heat clamp down, who is reliable? It's Feast or Famine.

mrKnickShot wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Clean wrote:Woody just saidh e should have stayed with Shump LOL. I think it was pretty obvious that he should have never gotten Fields back in the game. He took Shump out right after he was giving it to wade.

How about BD? That guy is the biggest disaster!

Davis is just as bad as fields i mean the guy cant move anymore or penetrate

Davis didn't play that bad. That charge was a bad call..he got clobbered before he even ran guy over. Add to that he is only playing out of necessity being injured. He seems to start the game playing at a good level and as minutes mount gets worse and worse. Injury effect.

1-6 FG 4 assists and 5 AWFUL turnovers! Very solid game - REALLY?????????????????

I'm talking in comparison to Fields. He did some good things. defense, some nifty passes. He's injured out there so I can't put him on the same level as Fields.

shump was injured how many steals did he have on wade

How about his offense? Baron play'd some solid defense as well. Fields did zilch on both ends. He was in his own level of ineptitude today.

FoeDiddy, I can't believe you are defending BD. TD could have done a better job!

So you think TD could have done better? LOL..that's hilarious. I'm not defending BD. I'm just saying he did some positive things and I appreciate him playing injured for team cause of Lin's injury and TD stinkyness. Remember how great BD looked playing his role with 2nd team? If Lin was healthy he would not have play'd for a week or two to heal up.

He kills the shot clock, still thinks he is the/a star and I can't stand him! He is and always was a me-first player. I love when we don't get into our offense until 22 on the shot clock. He stunk - case closed. As JVG says: If you're on the floor then injury is not an excuse.

I agree with that. but still not on TD level of stinkyness. Baron play's better & smarter defense and does make some decent passes at times. He has been bad and injury is not an excuse but reality.

FoeDiddy wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Clean wrote:Woody just saidh e should have stayed with Shump LOL. I think it was pretty obvious that he should have never gotten Fields back in the game. He took Shump out right after he was giving it to wade.

How about BD? That guy is the biggest disaster!

Davis is just as bad as fields i mean the guy cant move anymore or penetrate

Davis didn't play that bad. That charge was a bad call..he got clobbered before he even ran guy over. Add to that he is only playing out of necessity being injured. He seems to start the game playing at a good level and as minutes mount gets worse and worse. Injury effect.

1-6 FG 4 assists and 5 AWFUL turnovers! Very solid game - REALLY?????????????????

I'm talking in comparison to Fields. He did some good things. defense, some nifty passes. He's injured out there so I can't put him on the same level as Fields.

shump was injured how many steals did he have on wade

How about his offense? Baron play'd some solid defense as well. Fields did zilch on both ends. He was in his own level of ineptitude today.

FoeDiddy, I can't believe you are defending BD. TD could have done a better job!

So you think TD could have done better? LOL..that's hilarious. I'm not defending BD. I'm just saying he did some positive things and I appreciate him playing injured for team cause of Lin's injury and TD stinkyness. Remember how great BD looked playing his role with 2nd team? If Lin was healthy he would not have play'd for a week or two to heal up.

He kills the shot clock, still thinks he is the/a star and I can't stand him! He is and always was a me-first player. I love when we don't get into our offense until 22 on the shot clock. He stunk - case closed. As JVG says: If you're on the floor then injury is not an excuse.

I agree with that. but still not on TD level of stinkyness. Baron play's better & smarter defense and does make some decent passes at times. He has been bad and injury is not an excuse but reality.

At least TD does not think he is a focal point in this offense and BD does. I saw a number of times that Melo had good position and he went into his own dumb-phuck-superman move. BD will always be about BD.

FoeDiddy wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Besides the last 1:36 the Knicks did try to run offense late in the quarter. They ran several several PnRs by Melo and Davis. Davis got into the lane to find Chandler and Melo got past Bron threw it to a wide open Jr who hesitated then passed it back to melo for a 3 sec. violation. Another time there was a bad pass by Davis who must have thought Melo was going to the corner but Melo curled to the rim and was wide open. Then there was a bad post up sequence where Melo rushed his shot from the corner. I think he thought there was less time on the clock than there was because he could have drove baseline. Unlike some have said it was not just ISO Melo to close. People take one or two trips down the floor and make it every possession in their mind(The Mike Breen effect). The Knicks loss but ut was not like Miami was not playing well. Their top three played very well but the Knicks was still in it despite their short cummings. Moral victories mean little but it is a good sign for once the Knicks will have another threat.

Thank you. I look at it like when Giants lost to Patriots or Packers in regular season meetings. You lost but there are a lot of things you can take from this game to help beat them in playoffs. Lots of holes that we can improve on to upset them in playoffs. I'm optimistic they can at least make a competitive 7 game series vs. Heat.

I agree. Competitive but they can't win without another scorer and a PG. Also, they are getting crushed more and more on the boards.