sebstar wrote:

Marv wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Marv wrote:who do you root for in this series? is it possible to have 2 more hateable teams playing each other?? the only thing i'm hoping for is big baby getting knocked out a few more times in the series. that was fun. dude looked like george the animal steele the way he was carrying on out there.

one sideline note tho - and this is huge. if kobe has a big series and the lakers wins, then he's moving up onto my 3rd team all-time replacing - don't hate now - clyde.

So say it the Marv, Keeper of his lists!!!!!!

They say praytell to whom you speak of on this list with great reverance?

Do you have a 4th team? 5th? 6th?

My 27th:

Joe C. Merriweather
Len "the Truck" robinson
Louie Orr
Luther "tickey" Burden
Otis Birdsong

hey add edmund sherod and that team kills last years knicks.

and no there's no 4th or 5th teams. but - since you asked :

1st team
G - jordan
G - robertson
C - russell
F - bird
F - baylor

2nd Team
G - west
G - johnson
C - chamberlain
F - petit
F - havlicek

3rd team
G - cousy
G - frazier (kobe if he has a big series and lakers win)
C - jabbar
F - erving
F - duncan

I'm sorry, but Bean shyts on Jerry West. Russel and Chamberlin would get humiliated by the 90s centers. And Bob Cousy would probably get run off the court in a good pick up game at the Y.

ah, you kids. someday you'll learn.

KnicksSince88 wrote:Im rooting for the Celtics hard. In my life, we've never really had a rivalry with the Celtics, I don't hate them as much as older fans who remember battles from the 70s. To me the Bulls, Heat, Pacers, those are the teams I hate. We haven't met them in the playoffs in nearly 20 years and the last time we did we beat them in what was one of my most memorable playoff series as a Knick fan. Im also not a baseball fan or a Jet fan so i don't have hate for the city of Boston in general

My motive for rooting for them is to keep Kobe from ring #5. The other day my 16 year old nephew tried to tell me Kobe is better than Jordan and I had to drop kick him on the spot. Ive never particularly disliked Kobe but this growing talk as his career accomplishments mount that he is somehow on Jordans level is absolutely insulting to anyone who saw both guys in their prime. I fear if he wins a couple more rings and winds up with 6 that there will be a general perception held by many that they are roughly on the same level. Kobe has had a great career, but im fine with him at 4 rings. Don't need to see any more

Truth, although I have about as much love for the Red Sox as I do the KKK...I'm rooting for the Celtics just like in '08
And for anybody that wants to challenge me, come live in SoCal and put up what I have to put up with. Besides, Rondo is emerging as my favorite in the league next to Rose and Bron.

Hoe-be needs to go down.

He was great for that day, cool. Keep him there. You put him out here today and he is getting his shyt pushed in, OZ style. He looks like a barely athletic robot out there, sorry.

Marv wrote:

sebstar wrote:Man, I was watching sportcenter and they were showing some old Cousy stuff --- with his lil' crab dribble. LOL. Yeah, I could see him doing that to CP3 and taking him to the hole...haha.

seb, you got a ton of basketball knowledge but you’re just too young to know what you’re talking about here. you think steve nash is a good ballplayer? cousy was 5x nash. and if cousy grew up with today's training and style of ball he'd be 10x nash.

Impressive video, Marv. These debates though comparing players across era's are never really fruitful though. Especially because their are generational bias's involved with people always being more prone to give the edge to someone who was playing back when they were really first getting hooked on the game. The only way that I compare players are by what they were able to accomplish during their time and when Bob Cousy was around he was one of the baddest men on the planet, 10 time first team all NBA, won an MVP and a million titles. For his time, he was amazing

That said, I do believe the general NBA talent is superior today, even with 20+ more teams in the league. Not just because of training regimens and nutritional advancements, although that is a part of it. A big part of it is also the growth in popularity of the sport which guys like Cousy contributed to. With many more people playing the game worldwide now than were playing in Cousy's time (as well as many more people in general, the US population has tripled since Cousy's birth), it would also stand to reason that there are many more great athletes on the planet now, many more tall people on the planet now, there is simply much more talent floating around, really exponentially. The NBA back then was all about the best players in the United States, in a sport that wasn't even really that popular in the United States as the league was in its infancy. Now the NBA is about the best players in the entire world, in a game that is played by hundreds of millions of people across the globe. Being one of the best 400 or so players in this world right now is an unbelievable accomplishment. The amount of people who grow up playing this game now is absurd, and it would stand to reason that when you open up jobs to the best of hundreds of millions, you'd have a better chance of finding quality than if you opened it up to a potential employment pool exponentially less than that. Back in the Cousy days, compared to today, there was a fraction of the amount of people growing up playing the game and the pool of potential talent was fractionally as large as it is now. How many of those guys could hold NBA jobs if they had the same competition they would have today for those roster spots, I don't really know. You have millions upon millions in this country and across the globe growing up dreaming about playing this sport professionally, and making millions of dollars. How many kids of Cousy's generation chased that dream? The NBA did not even exist until he was 18 years old

There are great players who could play in any era though, whether or not Cousy was one of them I can't be sure from the little about him that I have been able to see through highlight clips. I just wasn't around.

Pharzeone wrote:Age has betrayed KG on the grandest of stages.

Its only Game#1 but I am a very happy Knick fan Boston Celtics & big-3 + 1
is getting their as_ses Whacked by the Los Angeles team.

I love it and hope Lakers sweep the most conceited team in Basketball Boston Celtics

Marv wrote:3rd team
G - cousy
G - frazier (kobe if he has a big series and lakers win)
C - jabbar
F - erving
F - duncan

Jabbar over Olajuwon?

Marv wrote:you see that guys? kobe laying it all on his study of the greats - oscar, west and baylor. nice clips too.

Don't know much about his relationship with his dad, but having a father who played in the big show has to have given Kobe a certain perspective and respect for the history of the game that most other players in the league today just don't have.