Posted by K22:

Is Chauncey Billups officially in the Tim Duncan club of "leadership, high IQ but grossly underappreciated"?

Posted by McK1:

Posted by Bonn1997:


IMO he's just a good all-star who's always had borderline all-star hall-of-fame teammates. He was always a notch below KG--he couldn't do half the variety of things KG in his prime could--but KG had an NBDL level squad most of his career.

this statement is rivaled in hilarity only by the Marbury is better than Nash contingent back in 05.

Parker and Gino just recently became all-stars. Afte Shaq no big man has been as dominant as Tim this past decade.

I wish someone had footage of TD in gm 7 of the 05 finals and you'd see more grit and guts displayed by TD in the 4th qtr on both sides of the ball than all of KG's postseason performaces combined.

as for KG, what pf of note did he face last years title run that he had to exert himself?

Duncan has faced and bested Shaq, Dirk, Stat, Malone, KG, the Wallaces on his way to 4 titles. Over the past decade San An has won 50 plus games and has had a teammate average 17 or more a game 4 times in 10 yrs and only 1 of those title teams Parker in 07.

Parker and Ginobili have played in four all-star games and had other all-star level seasons. And David Robinson had about a dozen all star seasons. Is it hilarious to call David Robinson and all-star/potential hall-of-famer?
You exert yourself by playing your heart out regardless of who you're matched up against, although Pau (KG's Finals opponent) is no joke anyway. Much of defense for a big involves help defense. Also, often in those classic PF matchups, the two don't even guard each other because the team's don't want their key PF getting in foul trouble. What does averaging 17 or more have to do with anything?

You've got two conclusions that don't make any sense to me:
(a) You exert yourself only when you're matched up against a big time PF;
(b) Averaging 17 PPG is an important cut-off for evaluating teammates

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by Marv:

i have no problem with his intensity. he's just not near the player that duncan is. that's all.

Fully agree with you. I think the whole "intensity" thing is a bit of a farce as well. Just because Duncan isn't out there jumping around and yelling doesn't mean he's not as intense. Duncan is a cerebral assassin and carried the Spurs to 4 titles, guys like Parker and Ginobbli wouldn't be near the same players without them.

Posted by Bonn1997:


Parker and Ginobili have played in four all-star games and had other all-star level seasons. And David Robinson had about a dozen all star seasons. Is it hilarious to call David Robinson and all-star/potential hall-of-famer?
You exert yourself by playing your heart out regardless of who you're matched up against, although Pau (KG's Finals opponent) is no joke anyway. Much of defense for a big involves help defense. Also, often in those classic PF matchups, the two don't even guard each other because the team's don't want their key PF getting in foul trouble. What does averaging 17 or more have to do with anything?

You've got two conclusions that don't make any sense to me:
(a) You exert yourself only when you're matched up against a big time PF;
(b) Averaging 17 PPG is an important cut-off for evaluating teammates

Posted by Paladin55:

Hard to imagine anyone on Miami getting shots other than Wade and Beasley next season- between them, these two are going to have a FGA/game of about 40-45 next year.

Posted by Marv:

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by Paladin55:

Hard to imagine anyone on Miami getting shots other than Wade and Beasley next season- between them, these two are going to have a FGA/game of about 40-45 next year.

Wade has continued to proven that he is:

*A prima-donna who milks injuries for the camera.
*Got calls in 06 that no player has ever gotten and has never recovered from not continuing to get those 20+FTAs a game.
*Is a gunner who does not trust teammates nor make them better.

Honestly, no thanks to this NBA invented fraud.

He's a good player, a very solid player, but he is so blown out of proportion by the league and his cult following. I never did get it and never will with this guy.

Thankfully his red carpet got revoked this playoffs.

wow. lol at this post.

dwade handed out 7.5 assists per game this year. think his teammates thought he was "a gunner who does not trust teammates nor make them better?" oh and "gunned" at the rate of 49.1% field goals

he grabbed 5 boards per game, picked off 2.2 steals and blocked 1.3 shots per game. think his teammates thought he was "a prima-donna"?

led the team from 15 wins when he was injured to 43 this year - he played 79 - and took atlanta to 7.

you might want to rewatch the '06 finals sometime.