nyk4ever - yeah but...

Mardy Collins is working on another triple double attempt with 11 points, 6 rebounds and 3 assistises and its only halftime.

Me like Mardy

Posted by rojasmas:

The firing of Imus won't have been in vain if the men in the black community learn to think twice before they denigrate black or any women. After all, if they don't respect their own, why should an old fart like Imus think a "joke" like he made was in bad taste and downright racist? Here's to black power and policing yourself. Rappers shouldn't blame the media, record companies or the communities they grow up in as an excuse. Educate yourself, respect yourself, and learn to respect the opposite sex as more than an object for your pleasure. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070413/ap_en_tv/imus_rap_5

Who's buying all the rap music

So if silly suburban white teenagers dance to stupid rap songs and lyrics they are equally the problem? Somehow there is a disconnect. Dumb suburban girls trying to act cool and more urban is not new. White or black, girls will be girls. Everyone wants to fit in.

Posted by Solace:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Of Course FOX is airing the movie "White Chicks" right now, which is a movie starring the Wayans Brothers dressing as white girls.

Isn't it ironic? Don'tcha think?

Payback's a (white) bitch.

Posted by Solace:

Posted by GhandiOrr:

Posted by Solace:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Of Course FOX is airing the movie "White Chicks" right now, which is a movie starring the Wayans Brothers dressing as white girls.

Isn't it ironic? Don'tcha think?

Payback's a (white) bitch.

Pardon?

What? You don't get my joke?

Posted by simrud:

misterearl, what do you want? I agree with you that what Imus said was racist, and he got his the RIGHT way, w/out government involvement. What did you want to happen? You want the guy hanged? What more than loosing his job can you ask for?

And the reason I bring Sharpton is because every time I see his name it is a red flag. I hate the guy with a passion. He is a worse hater than Imus, by far. He is almost in Farrakhan's league. Another guy who by the way gets away with whatever he wants.

Imus made a racist joke, and Sharpton incited and condoned racial violence. He has no place in this discussion, which was my point about him. The fact that he somehow has credibility bothers me. It bothers me just the joke made by Imus bothers you. Too bad Sharpton can't be fired from anywhere because he has no real job, he just trots around the country abusing the black communities misplaced trust.

Imus apologized for his comments from last week, has Sharpton apologized yet for defaming Steven Pagones?

The answer to that, 20 years later, would still be no.

Posted by nyk4ever:

I don't get the double-standard. Why are the Wayans brothers allowed to pose as and stereotype white girls?

I'm not looking for trouble, I'm just asking.

Oh sweet Jesus. Now you are officially reaching ...
If you wanted to play tribute to black culture there is a better way than saying you were quoting Snoop Dog, why don't do it with class. Says alot about him being a comedian.

The point I am making in the above thread is that Vilefan is only disturbed by perceived racial disrespect towards asians (Or himself really) and doesn't care when it happens to young black girls or any other race/person. OR, he doesn't care at all, and it is simply a convenient excuse to release his pent up anger at his life.

You see, he ran all over the forum for weeks and weeks calling RVHoss a "Racist" for some stupid picture, but he had no problem when Truebloser called Isiah Thomas a jigaboo and a spook, and he was all over that very same thread that same night, railing against Rich, calling him a pedophile! And he also seems to believe that Imus did not do anything wrong. It seems to me that maybe Rich was onto something about this 'man'...

And now Viles would have you believe that he did not know, or forgot that truebloser made the racially derogatory posts? And he would have you believe that Imus' comments were overblown, when he reacted the way he did to RVhoss?

Does anybody really believe that the guy who chases one poster after another around the forum for months on end, calling them names, trying to harass them over technicalities, getting personal all the time, forgot? The same guy who will lie in wait for weeks/months/years to exact his revenge on another poster?

Actually he doesn't care. He doesn't care about anything.

It is fitting that this post is on the Imus thread because Vilefan is the UK equivalent of a shock-jock, like Stern, Starr, Opie, or Imus. Like they, he has no true beliefs. He is not 'real'. Nothing he says is 'real'. He just says anything to garner the attention he desparately craves and cannot attain in the physical world. The only way he can figure out how to do this is through offensiveness and fighting.

Furthermore, it is an attempt to relieve his self-loathing by trying to bring people down. It doesn't matter who. It is me, misterearl, could be Rich, it could be you. It will always be someone. He is so lonely, he considers any human contact better than sitting alone thinking about how unfortunate a human being he is.

Rarely does he address basketball. He spits bile on a daily basis, more than all the rest of the board combined, constantly attacking other posters, anyone he can, as long as they don't have the power to ban him, or he doesn't think he will ever see them in real life. He spews remotely from his keyboard because it is safe. He would never call another man or woman for that matter a racist (A nasty thing to say) in real life. He would demure. And why would he ignore the most plainly racist comments? Because he doesn't care, and needs a couple of cohorts, so he finds kindred spirits of a similar nature, and they can say anything, no matter how abhorrent, it doesn't bother a man of no beliefs.

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So now that I have solved the mystery of why vilefan is as he is, the only remaining question is why is he allowed to keep going on as such? Others have asked this question in this very thread. Why does misterearl get chastised several times a week even though he is good-natured? Why has Bonn, or Myself, or Anji, or RV... and only once have I seen Vilefan asked to settle down?

It seems peculiar to me since everyday Vilefan brings a new round of STFU, or Idiots! or Morons! Or the Dog act, or the Parrot act. Is it that different posters have different expectations from the mods? Or is it different posters have different sets of rules, based on whom they have met, what their opinions are and who they attack?

The truth is, the people he disrespects the most are not guys like me or earl, but the gentleman who worked very hard to create this forum.

Fact: If Vilefan were made to cool it and act like a normal poster, he would disappear, and take up residence somewhere else, doing the same thing. It could be any forum, on any topic, he doesn't care about basketball.

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I have been unfair to dogs. Dogs are noble, loyal animals. A dog could not be vilefan. And I am waiting for you vilefan, to chase truebloser all over the forum calling him a racist, because apparently you forgot, or were too busy spitting more bile on that very same thread, that very same night.

oohah

Here's something that interests me. My father and his father were both light skinned mulattos who could pass for white, and in the 1930's that's what they were doing. My father was a little boy, but he and his dad would perform in minstrel shows. They put on black face and performed with a group of white men for white audiences. They ALSO performed in minstrel shows with BLACK performers for black audiences. So one day it's black face with the whites and the next day it's put white around your lips and pretend to be white people pretending to be black people for the blacks. My father said of these shows, "They were the same show!"

What my father took away from this experience was that white people and black people were all crazy and he wished he were dead. But what I find interesting about it is that "they were the same show!"

If after slavery, there hadn't been segregation and Jim Crow laws would blacks and whites have sat together in the same theater? Would the show's cast have been integrated? Would stereotypes of white people been added to the mix? Clearly, we all share a common sense of humor. "They were the same show!"

Whites dressing up in black face shows an anger and disgust, but also an obsession that is flattering. Blacks dressing up as whites dressing up as blacks shows frustration, but also a desire for inclusion.

The love is there. The love has always been there, and yet . . .

White people like Rap and buy black artists who know this. If white people hears them degrade their own women and don't show respect why should others?

Imus' comment was while inappropriate and wrong, and perhaps premeditated was one that was that would be associated with the younger black culture.

I can think if a few other "old fashioned" racial/sexist remarks that could have been made that COULD have been far more intended.

Im not gonna argue this as its just one opinion I have about this.

I learned a lot this week and have to say I am all other the place on "ImusGate". There are many valid views presented both here and in the media on both sides of the issue.

My hope is that whom ever and how ever this has come to be that those forces take it further and futher so that cultural integrity and mutual respect from both the black and white communities are enhanced.

If this country didn't degrade different races of people and tried to keep them behind(down), none of what Imus said would have meant that much.

But since america has a sinister history that few really choose to learn about, they will never comprehend what kind of impact and weight those statements carried by mr Don Imus.