Posted by diderotn:

enough is enough with drafting guards...We can always find them through FA...Plenty of guards will be available, frankly if we can't get Hughes, I would go for Dixon....he is an excellent defender and when his shots are on he is a much better player than Crawfford...Dixon is a tweener like Iverson, but between the two, I don't know who has the biggest heart...

He's better than crawford "when his shots are on"...please explain to me what that means? Where does Crawford rank when his shots are on?

Posted by diderotn:

Best available???? do you even know how many needs we have???? dude wakeup..

Posted by NYKBocker:

You can't waste a lottery pick. You get the best available at that spot. We are not that good to be picking based on need at that spot. For the 30th and the 54th picks, I agree. Nothing but redwoods. If IT has Green ranked as his best available or Granger, then he has to pick them up. I like Vazquez myself and he is a PF/C type that is a live body.

Wake up to what? Needs? We need a center, but I am not about to turn my back on a can't miss prospect or close to it. Question, let's say the basketball gods smiled on us (You listening Stern?) and we win the 3rd pick. Bogut goes first. Either Marvin Williams or Chris Paul gets picked 2nd. Do you pass up on either of them and pick a center or a player taller than 6'10"? You gotta pick the best available according to your scouting dept. Perfect example is Jerry West. He already had a slew of perimeter players in his Laker team, but he saw somtehing special in Kobe and went and pried him away from the Hornets. Another example is Portland. They needed a center and picked Same Bowie over a SG named Michael Jordan. This is because they already have Clyde Drexler in their team.

The first two picks better be to draft two of all of the centers that we have covetted...deal one of our primadonas for a couple draft picks...preferably from the first round, but I would settle for 2 to 3 second round draft picks.....Best candidates for such trades are: Malik, Kurt if he doesn't agree to comeoff the bench, and Sweetney if whomever we are dealing want to give us a couple of first round picks...

WE had 6 first round picks that year! SHows you how deceiving first-rounders can be.

DONt' forget that in '96 HS'ers were still looked at suspiciously, ergo picks #13 and 17.

The following is the list of college and high school players who have applied for early entry into NBA Draft 2005, which will be held Tuesday, June 28, at The Theater at Madison Square Garden in New York City. If Isiah can't draft a real 6'10 + baller with all the qualities that we need to strenghten our front court, I will be very pissed at him. I have underlined all the names that we should strongly consider with our 8th pick and they are as follow:

Player School Height Status
Alex Acker Pepperdine 6-5 Junior
Deji Akindele Chicago State 7-1 Sophomore
Kelenna Azubuike Kentucky 6-5 Junior
Sean Banks Memphis 6-8 Sophomore
Jose Juan Barea Northeastern 6-0 Junior
Brandon Bass LSU 6-8 Sophomore
Jermaine Bell Indian Hills CC (IA) 6-11 Freshman
Martellus Bennett Taylor HS (TX) 6-7 HS Senior
Andray Blatche South Kent Prep (CT) 6-11 HS Senior
Andrew Bogut Utah 7-0 Sophomore
Brandon Bowman Georgetown 6-8 Junior
Curtis Brown Jr. Beach HS (GA) 6-9 HS Senior
Dee Brown Illinois 5-11 Junior
Keith Brumbaugh DeLand HS (FL) 6-8 HS Senior
Andrew Bynum St. Joseph’s HS (NJ) 6-11 HS Senior
Jermareo Davidson Alabama 6-11 Sophomore Ike Diogu Arizona State 6-8 Junior
Toney Douglas Auburn 6-1 Freshman
Monta Ellis Lanier HS (MS) 6-3 HS Senior
Olu Famutimi Arkansas 6-5 Sophomore
Raymond Felton North Carolina 6-1 Junior
Anderson Ferreira Chipola JC (FL) 6-8 Sophomore
Torin Francis Notre Dame 6-11 Junior
Francisco Garcia Louisville 6-7 Junior
John Gilchrist Maryland 6-3 Junior
Gerald Green Gulf Shores Academy (TX) 6-8 HS Senior
Mike Hall George Washington 6-8 Junior
Chris Hernandez Stanford 6-2 Junior
Jibril Hodges Long Beach State 6-2 Junior
Jarrett Jack Georgia Tech 6-3 Junior
Amir Johnson Westchester HS (CA) 6-10 HS Senior
Dwayne Jones St. Joseph’s 6-11 Junior
Brian Kim Vanguard University (CA) 6-5 Junior
Armein Kirkland Cincinnati 6-8 Junior
Linas Kleiza Missouri 6-8 Sophomore
Carl Krauser Pittsburgh 6-2 Junior
Julius Lamptey Garden City CC (KS) 7-0 Freshman
Darshan Luckey St. Francis (PA) 6-5 Junior
Sean May North Carolina 6-8 Junior
Rashad McCants North Carolina 6-4 Junior
Pops Mensah-Bonsu George Washington 6-9 Junior
C.J. Miles Skyline HS (TX) 6-6 HS Senior
J.R. Morris Seton Hall 6-5 Junior
Randolph Morris Kentucky 6-10 Freshman
Tim Parham Maryland-Eastern Shore 6-9 Junior
T.J. Parker Northwestern 6-2 Junior
Chris Paul Wake Forest 6-0 Sophomore
Pierre Pierce Iowa 6-4 Junior
Kevin Pittsnogle West Virginia 6-10 Junior
Shavlik Randolph Duke 6-10 Junior
Anthony Roberson Florida 6-1 Junior
Nate Robinson Washington 5-9 Junior
Chris Rodgers Arizona 6-4 Junior
Ray Rose Olivet Nazarene (IL) 6-0 Junior
Brandon Rush Mt. Zion Academy (NC) 6-6 HS Senior
Marcus Slaughter San Diego State 6-8 Sophomore
Steven Smith LaSalle 6-8 Junior
Tim Smith East Tennessee State 5-9 Junior
B.J. Spencer Jacksonville State 6-4 Junior
Chris Taft Pittsburgh 6-10 Sophomore
Charlie Villanueva Connecticut 6-10 Sophomore
Tiras Wade Louisiana-Lafayette 6-6 Junior
Von Wafer Florida State 6-5 Sophomore
Matt Walsh Florida 6-6 Junior
Martell Webster Seattle Prep 6-7 HS Senior
James White Cincinnati 6-6 Junior
Deron Williams Illinois 6-4 Junior
Eric Williams Wake Forest 6-9 Junior
Louis Williams South Gwinnett HS (GA) 6-3 HS Senior
Marvin Williams North Carolina 6-9 Freshman
Kennedy Winston Alabama 6-6 Junior
Antoine Wright Texas A&M 6-7 Junior
Bracey Wright Indiana 6-4 Junior




The following is the list of international players who have applied for early entry into NBA Draft 2005:

Player Team/Country Height Status
Cenk Akyol Efes Pilsen (Turkey) 6-4 1987 DOB
Nemanja Aleksandrov Reflex (Serbia-Montenegro) 7-0 1987 DOB
Martynas Andriuskevicius Zalgiris (Lithuania) 7-2 1986 DOB
Luka Bogdanovic Partizan (Serbia-Montenegro) 6-8 1985 DOB
Ivan Chiriaev Dynamo Moscow (Russia) 7-1 1984 DOB
Rudy Fernandez DKV Joventut (Spain) 6-5 1985 DOB
Marcin Gortat RheinEnergie Koln (Germany) 7-0 1984 DOB Mile Ilic Reflex (Serbia-Montenegro) 7-0 1984 DOB
Ersan Ilyasova Ulker (Turkey) 6-9 1987 DOB
Paulius Jankunas Zalgiris (Lithuania) 6-8 1984 DOB
Viktor Keirou Unics Kazan (Russia) 6-6 1984 DOB
Tomasz Kesicki Pamesa Castellon (Spain) 6-10 1986 DOB
Yaroslav Korolev CSKA Moscow (Russia) 6-9 1987 DOB
Marko Lekic Atlas (Serbia-Montenegro) 6-10 1985 DOB
Erazem Lorbek Climamio Bologna (Italy) 6-10 1984 DOB Ian Mahinmi Le Havre (France) 6-9 1986 DOB
Steven Markovic West Sydney (Australia) 6-3 1985 DOB
Miguel Marriaga Gaiteros (Venezuela) 6-9 1984 DOB
Drago Pasalic Split (Croatia) 6-10 1984 DOB
Kosta Perovic Partizan (Serbia-Montenegro) 7-1 1985 DOB
Johan Petro Pau Orthez (France) 7-0 1986 DOB
Alexandr Rindin Gala Baku (Azerbaijan) 7-5 1985 DOB
Dusan Sakota Panathinaikos (Greece) 6-10 1986 DOB
Predrag Samardziski Partizan (Serbia-Montenegro) 6-11 1986 DOB
Cheick Samb Tenerife (Spain) 7-0 1984 DOB Carlos Matias Sandes Boca Juniors (Argentina) 6-7 1984 DOB
Thabo Sefolosha Chalon (France) 6-6 1984 DOB
Tiago Splitter Tau Ceramica (Spain) 6-11 1985 DOB
Tang Zhengdong Jiangsu (China) 7-1 1984 DOB Marko Tomas Zagreb (Croatia) 6-6 1985 DOB
Caio Torres Rayet Guadalajara (Spain) 6-11 1987 DOB
Roko Leni Ukic Split (Croatia) 6-5 1984 DOB
Konstantinos Vasileiadis PAOK (Greece) 6-6 1984 DOB
Panagiotis Vasilopoulos PAOK (Greece) 6-8 1984 DOB
Marcus Vieira de Souza Premiata Montegranaro (Italy) 6-9 1984 DOB




[Edited by - diderotn on 05/20/2005 07:32:21]

yOu know what I meant....there are at least 5 guys on that list that I would select with the 8th pick. Let's pray that Isiah find a suiter for a couple of the players that we currently have and acquire one or two more picks.....

Posted by Knick2001:

"Strongly consider" all the names you underlined for the 8th pick? Some maybe for the 30th or 2nd round pick is more like it.

[Edited by - diderotn on 05/20/2005 08:33:00]

We need two out of the best of them....

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by diderotn:

yOu know what I meant....there are at least 5 guys on that list that I would select with the 8th pick. Let's pray that Isiah find a suiter for a couple of the players that we currently have and acquire one or two more picks.....

Posted by Knick2001:

"Strongly consider" all the names you underlined for the 8th pick? Some maybe for the 30th or 2nd round pick is more like it.

[Edited by - diderotn on 05/20/2005 08:33:00]

looks like you highlighted every single bigman in the draft just because they are over 7ft as expected lol

Posted by Marv:

WE had 6 first round picks that year! SHows you how deceiving first-rounders can be.

DONt' forget that in '96 HS'ers were still looked at suspiciously, ergo picks #13 and 17.

Or just how horrible our scouting was...