Posted by TMS:

Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Posted by TMS:

KT averaged a double double this year...
[Edited by - TMS on 05/09/2005 17:42:56]

Yes, and while averaging that vaunted double double he allowed that no-name PF from the new franchise from Timbuktu to post a career high by lighting us up for 25 & 15. You feel he's an alltime Knick defensive player and yada yada yada. That's fine.

My opinion is that Bynum can be better in his first year with the Knicks....that's how I feel.
New York City is patient enough (when it has no other option) to see how a young big like that will pan out compared to eating the drivel we've been choking on over the last 5 years. If you need an example just look at...Ariza.

Posted - 05/09/2005 : 17:59:10

how about reading what i wrote instead of taking a part of it & misrepresenting my points like that? did i say KT was an impact player? i don't think i did...try again.

As for Ariza, the kid was taken w/a 2nd ROUND PICK...sorta different than a player who's taken w/a #8 lottery pick, wouldn't ya say? you think if Mike Sweetney doesn't show something NEXT YEAR that Knick fans won't start calling him a bust? don't be naive.

KT averaged a double double this year...i don't see any way that any 17 year old is going to come in here & put up those #'s regardless of the fact that KT is not really an impact player...is this kid Bynum on the level as a Dwight Howard?...

personally, i don't see Isiah doing it, & i don't see Knicks fans being willing to put up w/a 17 year old kid learning the ropes for the next 3 years while the team stinks unless we're talking about a can't miss prospect here (regardless of what some of you are saying that you'd be willing to be patient)...you're going to see posts bashing Isiah like there's no tomorrow if a guy like Warrick comes in next year & helps a team like NJ, BOS or PHI while dunking all over Knicks players everytime they come into the garden.

that's just how i see it.

[Edited by - TMS on 05/09/2005 17:42:56]

[Edited by - TMS on 05/09/2005 18:13:57]

Posted by gunsnewing:

you people saying we should take a player with less upside but instant impact are forgetting that there's no such thing with the Knicks. No matter how ready the rookie is,he's going to ride the pine for the KT, maliks of the world. So why not take a potential stud C and let him develope. We're not going to be serious contenders for at least 2 more years anyway.

Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Oh, I definitely read your post the first time and neither did you or I mention anything about Kurt being an impact player. I understood very clearly that you feel that it is better to have Kurt and his double double than a 7'0" 290 17 year old kid with a game because the public would call for Isiah's head because of a supposed 3 year wait...and yada yada yada.

You feel he's an alltime Knick defensive player and yada yada yada. That's fine.

Very few people besides hardcore Knick fans think about the fact that Ariza was selected in the second round beyond him being as good or better than most 1st rounders chosen before him.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by gunsnewing:

you people saying we should take a player with less upside but instant impact are forgetting that there's no such thing with the Knicks. No matter how ready the rookie is,he's going to ride the pine for the KT, maliks of the world. So why not take a potential stud C and let him develope. We're not going to be serious contenders for at least 2 more years anyway.

No doubt. How many minutes did Jackie Butler get when we were eliminated with 14 games to go? answer-NONE
people who think that hakim warwick at 190 pounds is going to play over guys who are being paid mULTI_MULTI_MULTI millions are fooling themselves. If there is a team out of the 29 that can bring in a C and nurture him its the frikin knicks.

JACKIE BUTLER? now you're comparing a NON-DRAFTED free agent from the CBA that was signed to a minimum contract in the 2nd half of the season last year not getting minutes to that of a potential LOTTERY PICK going into the beginning of training camp not getting minutes? you honestly believe that Hakim Warrick would not see any playing time next year if Isiah were to use that pick to get him? please...now you're just being ridiculous.

Posted by BRIGGS:

by the way sweetney put up 8.4 points 5.4 reb and shot 53% in 19 min from the field as a 21-22 YO, not exactly shabby.

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by BRIGGS:

by the way sweetney put up 8.4 points 5.4 reb and shot 53% in 19 min from the field as a 21-22 YO, not exactly shabby.

thank you Briggs. compare that to Kurt's 11 & 10 in 40mins on the perimeter. Amazing how fast people have given up on a 22 year old putting up those kind of numbers and leading all 2nd yr players in FG%

Yet somehow Warrick is going to be the 2nd coming his first year when he won't even get significant minutes ahead of rose and co

Posted by TMS:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by BRIGGS:

by the way sweetney put up 8.4 points 5.4 reb and shot 53% in 19 min from the field as a 21-22 YO, not exactly shabby.

thank you Briggs. compare that to Kurt's 11 & 10 in 40mins on the perimeter. Amazing how fast people have given up on a 22 year old putting up those kind of numbers and leading all 2nd yr players in FG%

Yet somehow Warrick is going to be the 2nd coming his first year when he won't even get significant minutes ahead of rose and co

thanks again for completely misrepresenting my comments...i appreciate it...i don't think i ever said i'd "given up" on Sweetney...seems like this has been happening alot lately around here.