Tim Thomas is a different player with Herb Williams

If Herb can continue to get the most graceful player (6'10 and over) in ther game to play consistent ball, he is not Coach of The Year....

He is Coach of the freakin' DECADE!

Matt - visualize Tim Thomas in the backcourt wioth Jamal at the point

Crazy huh?

Crazy enough to work

Posted by misterearl:

one more thing Matt
It ain't YOUR money

You're right, it isn't my money. I'm just a 16 year old kid who doesn't personally pay the cable bill and doesn't live close enough to buy a ticket at MSG. It's all those other fans who it's costing. How do you think teams with these kind of contracts and a payroll as large as our make profits? They have to increase the price of tickets, or merchandice, or whatever. It's not costing me personally, but does that make it okay to pay a mediocre player, at best, $14 million a year?

Posted by MaTT4281:

You're right, it isn't my money. I'm just a 16 year old kid who doesn't personally pay the cable bill and doesn't live close enough to buy a ticket at MSG. It's all those other fans who it's costing. How do you think teams with these kind of contracts and a payroll as large as our make profits? They have to increase the price of tickets, or merchandice, or whatever.

well said. and its not just that they have to increase the price of the tickets, its also that they have to fire some of their staff to cut down on payroll. Thats still not affecting me because I dont work there and I dont HAVE TO buy tickets but I agree with you.

It's not costing me personally, but does that make it okay to pay a mediocre player, at best, $14 million a year?

Exactly! Its not my money but it is still my team. I dont want them to spend money on retards that cannot play. If they spent money wisely, I wouldnt care how much they spent. If they are 60 million over the cap and dont have anyone good playing with Stephon, I am going to not like it.

They deserve some time though. I think we should be patient till the next trade deadline. I have faith in Isiah so I am willing to wait. Trade deadline in 2006 will be a better time to comment on this.

Thanks for the quote rvhoss, this is good stuff.

Posted by rvhoss:

was it lenny all along?

"Lenny just really didn't focus in on the strengths I had as an advantage," Thomas told The Post.

Oh man, that is not cool. He shouldnt be making excuses just yet. I heard him on a post game interview saying he wasnt doing well because he had off the court issues (ie: death in the family) distracting him. That shot at Lenny is uncalled for.

Posted by Silverfuel:

Thanks for the quote rvhoss, this is good stuff.

Posted by rvhoss:

was it lenny all along?

"Lenny just really didn't focus in on the strengths I had as an advantage," Thomas told The Post.

Oh man, that is not cool. He shouldnt be making excuses just yet. I heard him on a post game interview saying he wasnt doing well because he had off the court issues (ie: death in the family) distracting him. That shot at Lenny is uncalled for.

I think it makes sense since because ever since Herb took over they've been going to TT & Sweetney in the post A LOT more. And thst is why we've been in virtually every game. Unlike under Lenny when we were always blown out by 20-30pts because crawford, marbury and KT were hoisting shots from the perimeter. It is so important that a team can score both inside and outside

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 03/19/2005 15:11:52]

>>They have to increase the price of tickets, or merchandice, or whatever. It's not costing me personally, but does that make it okay to pay a mediocre player, at best, $14 million a year?

MaTT - of course it's okay. Its the American Way. You are worth what you negotiate. Do you have a problem with what Tom Cruise or Keanu Reeves gets paid per movie?

I could care less about what the players agents negotiate as their value. The Knicks are paying Allan Houston much more to wear designer suits on the sidelines.

All I care about is the team playing better basketball.

If you can't afford to pay the price, no one is forcing you to spend a dime. But then again, you have it great. You don't even pay the cable bill.

Why is this so hard to understand the money issue for some people?

The problem is when you spend the money on bad players, they are taking up your roster spots, and there is a limited number of them, 15 that is, so you are stuck with 5 pf's on your team.

You are also never gettin under the cap, and while under the cap, you will never be a player in the FA market. You will have to take on more bad players to get decent ones for your garbage, give up draft picks and expiring deals, thus loosin any hope of every gettin under the cap.

Its very simple really, when you mismanage our assets, which in the case of basketball is roster spots and the cap, you are in bad shape. You don't have flexibility, and end up being stuck with what you have at the moment, no matter how bad it is.

There are no free lunches out there, in order to get something you need to give up, and if you don't have anythig to give up, you get crap. Like in the Marbury trade, when we gave up picls, projects, expiring deals, and took on ALOT of money.

Posted by diderotn:

TT had another monster game folks.....I told you that this dude is an excellent finisher...I sure wishes that he could put a whole season together scoring 20 plus points....Damn TT

lol...against the Hawks TT is an allstar.