A little surprised that we made this move before making a move on Achiuwa or any backup center. We still have the MLE and Achiuwa's bird rights, so something could still happen.

Still feels like there's another major move.

martin wrote:Payne is here to start the 10-15 games Brunson does not. That's it.

Yes but could definitely be more than that.

This guy has been a legit PG (mostly as a back-up) and has considerable playoff experience.

He is aggressive, gets downhill, has a floater/runner game and certainly hit some big 3’s against us vs Philly.

Think he put up 29? Vs Clips in playoffs a few years back with PHX and you just never know when I good player comes to a great team situation he could show up more than most of us expect.

He is a solid back-up, great insurance and being a lefty is another guy with Brunson that can teach Kolek some things. I find this a very comforting pick-up at vet min $3.1M price and 1 year deal.

LivingLegend wrote:

martin wrote:Payne is here to start the 10-15 games Brunson does not. That's it.

Yes but could definitely be more than that.

This guy has been a legit PG (mostly as a back-up) and has considerable playoff experience.

He is aggressive, gets downhill, has a floater/runner game and certainly hit some big 3s against us vs Philly.

Think he put up 29? Vs Clips in playoffs a few years back with PHX and you just never know when I good player comes to a great team situation he could show up more than most of us expect.

He is a solid back-up, great insurance and being a lefty is another guy with Brunson that can teach Kolek some things. I find this a very comforting pick-up at vet min $3.1M price and 1 year deal.

Cam really showed up vs Knicks in the playoffs. Has some dawg in him and shot some daggers. Felt like he couldn't miss. But there's a real log Jam now at guard. Something gotta give, even if I'd rather not lose either Deuce or DDV. Is Deuce going to be OK being a third stringer?

We've actually had 6 players from the 1st rnd of the 2015 draft at one point or another.

KP
Hezonja
Mudiay
Payne
Grant
Portis

Rookie wrote:

Panos wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

martin wrote:Payne is here to start the 10-15 games Brunson does not. That's it.

Yes but could definitely be more than that.

This guy has been a legit PG (mostly as a back-up) and has considerable playoff experience.

He is aggressive, gets downhill, has a floater/runner game and certainly hit some big 3s against us vs Philly.

Think he put up 29? Vs Clips in playoffs a few years back with PHX and you just never know when I good player comes to a great team situation he could show up more than most of us expect.

He is a solid back-up, great insurance and being a lefty is another guy with Brunson that can teach Kolek some things. I find this a very comforting pick-up at vet min $3.1M price and 1 year deal.

Cam really showed up vs Knicks in the playoffs. Has some dawg in him and shot some daggers. Felt like he couldn't miss. But there's a real log Jam now at guard. Something gotta give, even if I'd rather not lose either Deuce or DDV. Is Deuce going to be OK being a third stringer?

I mean we were down to 6 players the last game of the playoffs. Feels like they aren’t going to let that happen again. Can we please sign just one more F/C though.

Anyone we sign is going to have to take those minutes from Deuce who is a hard worker and ain’t going down without a fight.

If Payne plays respectable D, as well as does a good job getting his teammates good looks, Im guessing that Cam has a good shot of getting Deuce moved by the first trade deadline, if he isnt gone sooner.

We needed Deuce's scoring with all the players out. We need more of a playmaker at PG in the second unit, when we're at or close to full strength this upcoming season

Nalod wrote:Bondy said today what others been saying: "Deuce an off guard in a PG body". Cam Is a PG.

Cam isn't even a true / traditional PG in the sense that he is mostly looking to get off his 3 or get to his floater first before initiating for others BUT it only takes about 5 minutes to see he is light years ahead of Deuce in terms of being comfortable with the ball off the bounce,

Deuce like you stated above is primarily a catch and shoot undersized 2 that is working hard to pick up some PG characteristics where Cam comes in and is a legit back-up PG who has had a # of big playoff games and who I believe has +40 playoff games under his belt (may be wrong on last comment).

I feel much better about roster with Cam signed --- I expect a center move (maybe a big time move) sometime this summer....just no idea when this summer.

CleaverGreene wrote:Just an observation...

We've actually had 6 players from the 1st rnd of the 2015 draft at one point or another.

KP
Hezonja
Mudiay
Payne
Grant
Portis

What a horrific draft class.

CleaverGreene wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

CleaverGreene wrote:Just an observation...

We've actually had 6 players from the 1st rnd of the 2015 draft at one point or another.

KP
Hezonja
Mudiay
Payne
Grant
Portis

What a horrific draft class.

I just took a look at the top 10 picks...Only Towns & KP emerged as exceptional players.

I was a fan of Portis...I wish we had taken him instead of Grant, who a lot of folks liked.