DLeethal wrote:I don't think it's a mistake at all. Backup bigs is a position almost every team goes small nowadays. Hart will be fine.

Exactly

Alpha1971 wrote:

DLeethal wrote:I don't think it's a mistake at all. Backup bigs is a position almost every team goes small nowadays. Hart will be fine.

Ok but what if he goes down ? Or RJ or Julius ? Or in some games a big PF simply manhandles Hart for 14 minutes ? A well constructed team is prepared for potential mismatches and injury. We are prepared for such contingency at center, wing, and guard. Sims is not it at PF is Roby it or Knight ? Simms played and gave us a pathetic jump shot.

The Knicks are hard capped this year and also want to make a trade while sitting right under the first apron.

You don't willy-nilly with the backup PF position when you have larger goals in mind.

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

DLeethal wrote:I don't think it's a mistake at all. Backup bigs is a position almost every team goes small nowadays. Hart will be fine.

Ok but what if he goes down ? Or RJ or Julius ? Or in some games a big PF simply manhandles Hart for 14 minutes ? A well constructed team is prepared for potential mismatches and injury. We are prepared for such contingency at center, wing, and guard. Sims is not it at PF is Roby it or Knight ? Simms played and gave us a pathetic jump shot.

The Knicks are hard capped this year and also want to make a trade while sitting right under the first apron.

You don't willy-nilly with the backup PF position when you have larger goals in mind.

Going willy nilly with the PF position is what currently exists.

Only in your mind.

Question: What do you think is more important to the FO, finding/signing a backup PF (who, at this current time has zero chance of getting minutes) or putting the team in the best position for a trade?

And BTW, the same scrap backup PF's that are on the market today are the same level of backup PF's they can grab any time over the next months. There is literal no rush until they need to address that situation, if they even ever need to.

Alpha1971, do you understand the implications of the hard cap and first apron have on a team like the Knicks?

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

DLeethal wrote:I don't think it's a mistake at all. Backup bigs is a position almost every team goes small nowadays. Hart will be fine.

Ok but what if he goes down ? Or RJ or Julius ? Or in some games a big PF simply manhandles Hart for 14 minutes ? A well constructed team is prepared for potential mismatches and injury. We are prepared for such contingency at center, wing, and guard. Sims is not it at PF is Roby it or Knight ? Simms played and gave us a pathetic jump shot.

The Knicks are hard capped this year and also want to make a trade while sitting right under the first apron.

You don't willy-nilly with the backup PF position when you have larger goals in mind.

Going willy nilly with the PF position is what currently exists.

Only in your mind.

Question: What do you think is more important to the FO, finding/signing a backup PF (who, at this current time has zero chance of getting minutes) or putting the team in the best position for a trade?

And BTW, the same scrap backup PF's that are on the market today are the same level of backup PF's they can grab any time over the next months. There is literal no rush until they need to address that situation, if they even ever need to.

Alpha1971, do you understand the implications of the hard cap and first apron have on a team like the Knicks?

You saw Simms at PF? Just imagine Hart misses a few games or any of our bigs and he has to play the 4 for a week. No, it's not only me. Roster construction is poor. Let's see if the correct it. Like I said they have contracts, picks, and TPE to get it done.

Stay ignorant, seems like a choice.

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

DLeethal wrote:I don't think it's a mistake at all. Backup bigs is a position almost every team goes small nowadays. Hart will be fine.

Ok but what if he goes down ? Or RJ or Julius ? Or in some games a big PF simply manhandles Hart for 14 minutes ? A well constructed team is prepared for potential mismatches and injury. We are prepared for such contingency at center, wing, and guard. Sims is not it at PF is Roby it or Knight ? Simms played and gave us a pathetic jump shot.

The Knicks are hard capped this year and also want to make a trade while sitting right under the first apron.

You don't willy-nilly with the backup PF position when you have larger goals in mind.

Going willy nilly with the PF position is what currently exists.

Only in your mind.

Question: What do you think is more important to the FO, finding/signing a backup PF (who, at this current time has zero chance of getting minutes) or putting the team in the best position for a trade?

And BTW, the same scrap backup PF's that are on the market today are the same level of backup PF's they can grab any time over the next months. There is literal no rush until they need to address that situation, if they even ever need to.

Alpha1971, do you understand the implications of the hard cap and first apron have on a team like the Knicks?

You saw Simms at PF? Just imagine Hart misses a few games or any of our bigs and he has to play the 4 for a week. No, it's not only me. Roster construction is poor. Let's see if the correct it. Like I said they have contracts, picks, and TPE to get it done.

Stay ignorant, seems like a choice.

Yo Martin I disagree with you but I have not been disrespectful.

I am being factual here. I keep presenting you with some pretty clear indicators and you willfully blow past them.

I ask you direct questions and you ignore them.

You aren't even interested in learning or getting information that is pertinent to your topic at hand when directly presented with them.

This is what willful ignorance looks like.

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

DLeethal wrote:I don't think it's a mistake at all. Backup bigs is a position almost every team goes small nowadays. Hart will be fine.

Ok but what if he goes down ? Or RJ or Julius ? Or in some games a big PF simply manhandles Hart for 14 minutes ? A well constructed team is prepared for potential mismatches and injury. We are prepared for such contingency at center, wing, and guard. Sims is not it at PF is Roby it or Knight ? Simms played and gave us a pathetic jump shot.

The Knicks are hard capped this year and also want to make a trade while sitting right under the first apron.

You don't willy-nilly with the backup PF position when you have larger goals in mind.

Going willy nilly with the PF position is what currently exists.

Only in your mind.

Question: What do you think is more important to the FO, finding/signing a backup PF (who, at this current time has zero chance of getting minutes) or putting the team in the best position for a trade?

And BTW, the same scrap backup PF's that are on the market today are the same level of backup PF's they can grab any time over the next months. There is literal no rush until they need to address that situation, if they even ever need to.

Alpha1971, do you understand the implications of the hard cap and first apron have on a team like the Knicks?

You saw Simms at PF? Just imagine Hart misses a few games or any of our bigs and he has to play the 4 for a week. No, it's not only me. Roster construction is poor. Let's see if the correct it. Like I said they have contracts, picks, and TPE to get it done.

Stay ignorant, seems like a choice.

Yo Martin I disagree with you but I have not been disrespectful.

I am being factual here. I keep presenting you with some pretty clear indicators and you willfully blow past them.

I ask you direct questions and you ignore them.

You aren't even interested in learning or getting information that is pertinent to your topic at hand when directly presented with them.

This is what willful ignorance looks like.

You keep saying that I am wrong about needing a vet PF for the bench. Other front offices have made their teams better creatively over the off-season. I am not going to argue with you for the sake of argument. No need to argue when the facts are on the court for everyone to see. Sure the team sees it. Sure they are being patient just hope the patience doesn't cost us seedng due to lost games Incase or injury. Sure every team would lose it any injury hits a top player but going into a season with a PF who has ankle surgery with a back up at 6'4"", is bad construction. Sometimes this front office is too myopic.

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

DLeethal wrote:I don't think it's a mistake at all. Backup bigs is a position almost every team goes small nowadays. Hart will be fine.

Ok but what if he goes down ? Or RJ or Julius ? Or in some games a big PF simply manhandles Hart for 14 minutes ? A well constructed team is prepared for potential mismatches and injury. We are prepared for such contingency at center, wing, and guard. Sims is not it at PF is Roby it or Knight ? Simms played and gave us a pathetic jump shot.

The Knicks are hard capped this year and also want to make a trade while sitting right under the first apron.

You don't willy-nilly with the backup PF position when you have larger goals in mind.

Going willy nilly with the PF position is what currently exists.

Only in your mind.

Question: What do you think is more important to the FO, finding/signing a backup PF (who, at this current time has zero chance of getting minutes) or putting the team in the best position for a trade?

And BTW, the same scrap backup PF's that are on the market today are the same level of backup PF's they can grab any time over the next months. There is literal no rush until they need to address that situation, if they even ever need to.

Alpha1971, do you understand the implications of the hard cap and first apron have on a team like the Knicks?

You saw Simms at PF? Just imagine Hart misses a few games or any of our bigs and he has to play the 4 for a week. No, it's not only me. Roster construction is poor. Let's see if the correct it. Like I said they have contracts, picks, and TPE to get it done.

Stay ignorant, seems like a choice.

Yo Martin I disagree with you but I have not been disrespectful.

I am being factual here. I keep presenting you with some pretty clear indicators and you willfully blow past them.

I ask you direct questions and you ignore them.

You aren't even interested in learning or getting information that is pertinent to your topic at hand when directly presented with them.

This is what willful ignorance looks like.

You keep saying that I am wrong about needing a vet PF for the bench. Other front offices have made their teams creatively over the off-season. I am not going to argue with you for the sake of argument. No need to argue when the facts are on the court for everyone to see. Sure the team sees it. Sure they are being patient just hope the patience doesn't cost us seeing due to lost games Incase or injury. Sure every team would lose it any injury hits a top player but going into a season with a PF who has ankle surgery with a back up at 6'4"", is bad construction. Sometimes this front office is too myopic.

I think the irony is lost on you man

I feel the same way about your point of view. You can continue to tell me how I am making a mountain out of a mole hill or railing to see the majesty of the front offices vision all you want. And tell me how tough a 6'4" guy is and how he can rebound. Heard all your points. Disagree the front office left a flaw on the roster that can come back to bite them unnecessarily. Your putting too much faith in the FO on this PF issue
. They so far have made a potentially big mistake. Hope your right though
. I hope your right.

Alpha1971 wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

DLeethal wrote:I don't think it's a mistake at all. Backup bigs is a position almost every team goes small nowadays. Hart will be fine.

Ok but what if he goes down ? Or RJ or Julius ? Or in some games a big PF simply manhandles Hart for 14 minutes ? A well constructed team is prepared for potential mismatches and injury. We are prepared for such contingency at center, wing, and guard. Sims is not it at PF is Roby it or Knight ? Simms played and gave us a pathetic jump shot.

The Knicks are hard capped this year and also want to make a trade while sitting right under the first apron.

You don't willy-nilly with the backup PF position when you have larger goals in mind.

Going willy nilly with the PF position is what currently exists.

Only in your mind.

Question: What do you think is more important to the FO, finding/signing a backup PF (who, at this current time has zero chance of getting minutes) or putting the team in the best position for a trade?

And BTW, the same scrap backup PF's that are on the market today are the same level of backup PF's they can grab any time over the next months. There is literal no rush until they need to address that situation, if they even ever need to.

Alpha1971, do you understand the implications of the hard cap and first apron have on a team like the Knicks?

You saw Simms at PF? Just imagine Hart misses a few games or any of our bigs and he has to play the 4 for a week. No, it's not only me. Roster construction is poor. Let's see if the correct it. Like I said they have contracts, picks, and TPE to get it done.

Stay ignorant, seems like a choice.

Yo Martin I disagree with you but I have not been disrespectful.

I am being factual here. I keep presenting you with some pretty clear indicators and you willfully blow past them.

I ask you direct questions and you ignore them.

You aren't even interested in learning or getting information that is pertinent to your topic at hand when directly presented with them.

This is what willful ignorance looks like.

You keep saying that I am wrong about needing a vet PF for the bench. Other front offices have made their teams better creatively over the off-season. I am not going to argue with you for the sake of argument. No need to argue when the facts are on the court for everyone to see. Sure the team sees it. Sure they are being patient just hope the patience doesn't cost us seedng due to lost games Incase or injury. Sure every team would lose it any injury hits a top player but going into a season with a PF who has ankle surgery with a back up at 6'4"", is bad construction. Sometimes this front office is too myopic.

Several teams deploy small lineups successfully. Having JHart, who can rebound, in a small lineup should make our small lineup a good candidate for success. Think many will be surprised by it.
We have Sims as an insurance policy if we need him against bigger second units or someone gets hurt.

Long term, think we can all agree the FO does not feel this is a finished product.