Chandler wrote:

ToddTT wrote:Embiid has played with a good supporting cast, and not gone that far in the post-season.

He’s obviously a great player but I’d hate to give up young promising talent and picks, in hopes that he stays healthy and somehow succeeds more in NY.

Philly, make us an offer we can’t refuse.

Well said. I am in this camp and i am an EMbiid fan.

I could make the case i'd rather lose Randle who is an all nba because i still think he has some challenges handling NY and the pressure in the playoffs.

Tobias Harris far better fit with Embid vs Randle who would be an absolute head case / disaster as 3rd wheel.

JesseDark wrote:If we give up Randle, RJ, and Mitchell Robinson what would our starting five look like.
Jalen Brunson,Quinton Crimes,?,?, Embid.

If you did those 3 we would be sending out 20 million more in salary than we are getting back so there would have to be more coming to us. Harris is too much money. Maybe PJ Tucker and some end-of-the-bench types even it out

NYKBocker wrote:I don't know man. I am a big MRob fan. I would rather keep what we have but that's just me

But you can't trade Randle and RJ for MRob.

Knixkik wrote:I don’t see Philly trading him to us. We learned with the Lillard thing that teams don’t want to do that and give a player what they want if it’s only one team. I think we are far more likely to get either Towns or D Mitchell. Neither is as good but younger and more durable.

You might be right and Morey is a pimp likely ask too much.
But...........

I'm gonna guess its already being discussed. That don't mean anything gets done or for a while.
What your saying is "Its more likely Philly creates a market and bidding war for Embiid".

Leon might not give Morey what he wants, but he can give him a fair price, know the haggle is coming, then give it to him. Or, just give him a what Knicks are willing to pay, and say "Thats it, its good for x-amount of time, and thats it!"

Or Morey only wants to move Embiid for a "offer he can't refuse".

Embiid might or might not ask. He might or might not ask for NY specifically. Joel has no leverage.
Lillard was not the same thing. He did ask for Miami but we learned they did not meet the price and it just died. Two months later they did a deal with Bucks.
Knicks have the assets to make a good deal and compete. Morey knows this and Leon knows he knows. Nobody will be stealing Joel Embiid. Question is how bad do knicks want him and whats left to compete?

Week ago it was reported that Embiid was to sign with Sketchers. Hmmmm, So did Randle. Hmmmm, Do Philly games get televised in China due to Morey's past comments about them? What if Randle is traded to Philly?

We don't know what Morey would want.

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I don’t see Philly trading him to us. We learned with the Lillard thing that teams don’t want to do that and give a player what they want if it’s only one team. I think we are far more likely to get either Towns or D Mitchell. Neither is as good but younger and more durable.

You might be right and Morey is a pimp likely ask too much.
But...........

I'm gonna guess its already being discussed. That don't mean anything gets done or for a while.
What your saying is "Its more likely Philly creates a market and bidding war for Embiid".

Leon might not give Morey what he wants, but he can give him a fair price, know the haggle is coming, then give it to him. Or, just give him a what Knicks are willing to pay, and say "Thats it, its good for x-amount of time, and thats it!"

Or Morey only wants to move Embiid for a "offer he can't refuse".

Embiid might or might not ask. He might or might not ask for NY specifically. Joel has no leverage.
Lillard was not the same thing. He did ask for Miami but we learned they did not meet the price and it just died. Two months later they did a deal with Bucks.
Knicks have the assets to make a good deal and compete. Morey knows this and Leon knows he knows. Nobody will be stealing Joel Embiid. Question is how bad do knicks want him and whats left to compete?

Week ago it was reported that Embiid was to sign with Sketchers. Hmmmm, So did Randle. Hmmmm, Do Philly games get televised in China due to Morey's past comments about them? What if Randle is traded to Philly?

We don't know what Morey would want.

Not for nothing but Knicks - if they indeed to have someone like Embiid as a target - need to also keep KAT as a target as well, to keep the leverage down on real target. Both guys gotta be in play to move things along.

we need strategery to quote a former president. we also need discipline. We were smart to not sell the farm for one guy the way many teams have done recently. Stay the course; be opportunistic; build a competitive, professional approach; cut your losses; avoid prima donnas. Repeat

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I don’t see Philly trading him to us. We learned with the Lillard thing that teams don’t want to do that and give a player what they want if it’s only one team. I think we are far more likely to get either Towns or D Mitchell. Neither is as good but younger and more durable.

You might be right and Morey is a pimp likely ask too much.
But...........

I'm gonna guess its already being discussed. That don't mean anything gets done or for a while.
What your saying is "Its more likely Philly creates a market and bidding war for Embiid".

Leon might not give Morey what he wants, but he can give him a fair price, know the haggle is coming, then give it to him. Or, just give him a what Knicks are willing to pay, and say "Thats it, its good for x-amount of time, and thats it!"

Or Morey only wants to move Embiid for a "offer he can't refuse".

Embiid might or might not ask. He might or might not ask for NY specifically. Joel has no leverage.
Lillard was not the same thing. He did ask for Miami but we learned they did not meet the price and it just died. Two months later they did a deal with Bucks.
Knicks have the assets to make a good deal and compete. Morey knows this and Leon knows he knows. Nobody will be stealing Joel Embiid. Question is how bad do knicks want him and whats left to compete?

Week ago it was reported that Embiid was to sign with Sketchers. Hmmmm, So did Randle. Hmmmm, Do Philly games get televised in China due to Morey's past comments about them? What if Randle is traded to Philly?

We don't know what Morey would want.

Not for nothing but Knicks - if they indeed to have someone like Embiid as a target - need to also keep KAT as a target as well, to keep the leverage down on real target. Both guys gotta be in play to move things along.

True, have to have others to consider and Morey needs to know knicks walk if the price is not fair.

Rookie wrote:The only problem with an Embiid trade is that we have worked hard to develop a young team. We are starting to see the results of our patience and while not a championship team yet, we are considered a playoff team. Embiid turns 30 in March. We would be trading youth and draft capitol for a player heading into decline. I can’t really think of any 7’ers that aged well. Do we think we can win a chip in the next 2-3 years with Embiid? I think our window opens in 2-3 years. Stay the course, it has worked for us so far.

Agree about the window. If we were building an instant superteam, I'd be OK with a trade for Embiid, and a relatively brief window.

But thats not what the roster will look like after the trade. Would probably take years to build one. Years Embiid and the Knicks cant afford.