VDesai wrote:We don't maximize our talent by trading RJ for another undersized combo guard to pair with Brunson. We need a lengthy SG/SF who can play defense and stretch the floor. Guys like Trey Murphy III and Cameron Johnson seem to be the best kind of fits.

Dame is a great, but will be in his mid 30s and hasn't played over 70 games in 5 yrs and leaves us weak defensively. And it will cost way more than RJ.

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Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.

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Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.

But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

The Barrett situation is really tough right now. I do like the Cam idea. I also like his teammates DFS and Royce O’Neale. I would take either of them for this particular team in place of Barrett. When you have a team like this Knicks team, fit is clearly very important. I would move Barrett for a good backup and start Hart or Quickley in his place. But can you really move Barrett for a backup role player even if the team is likely to be a little better? It’s a tough situation.

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Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.

But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

Cam probably gets Mitch money. I don't really understand what you mean by 'doesn't fit defensively'? RJ has a defensive rating of 117 while Cam's is 113. I thought he was a starter for the Suns after Crowder decided he was too good for the team. I also don't understand why you think he only plays PF. I thought he plays both 3/4. Think similar body type as Reddish with 3" less wingspan but a little taller.

Cam pretty much plays 4. He can play 3 in some matchups, but the defense is taking a L mostbof the season. He filled in for Crowder, but crowder was also playing 4. In all, I think Cam pulls around $20M per. I don't think Cam is a bad player, just got in terms of salary and role is off.

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Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.

But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

Cam probably gets Mitch money. I don't really understand what you mean by 'doesn't fit defensively'? RJ has a defensive rating of 117 while Cam's is 113. I thought he was a starter for the Suns after Crowder decided he was too good for the team. I also don't understand why you think he only plays PF. I thought he plays both 3/4. Think similar body type as Reddish with 3" less wingspan but a little taller.

Cam pretty much plays 4. He can play 3 in some matchups, but the defense is taking a L mostbof the season. He filled in for Crowder, but crowder was also playing 4. In all, I think Cam pulls around $20M per. I don't think Cam is a bad player, just got in terms of salary and role is off.

Im having trouble following how a guy who is the right age, the right size, has the right skillset, has athleticism, doesn't demand the ball, doesn't cost us youth and 1st rd picks in a trade because he is a FA has a 'role that is off'. Maybe explain that to me??

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BigDaddyG wrote:

Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.

But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

Cam probably gets Mitch money. I don't really understand what you mean by 'doesn't fit defensively'? RJ has a defensive rating of 117 while Cam's is 113. I thought he was a starter for the Suns after Crowder decided he was too good for the team. I also don't understand why you think he only plays PF. I thought he plays both 3/4. Think similar body type as Reddish with 3" less wingspan but a little taller.

Cam pretty much plays 4. He can play 3 in some matchups, but the defense is taking a L mostbof the season. He filled in for Crowder, but crowder was also playing 4. In all, I think Cam pulls around $20M per. I don't think Cam is a bad player, just got in terms of salary and role is off.

Im having trouble following how a guy who is the right age, the right size, has the right skillset, has athleticism, doesn't demand the ball, doesn't cost us youth and 1st rd picks in a trade because he is a FA has a 'role that is off'. Maybe explain that to me??

He's a four and we already have one who is better? And he's not going to get backup money. I think we learned from Isaiah about the dangers of smashing talented square pegs into round holes.

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BigDaddyG wrote:

Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.

But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

Cam probably gets Mitch money. I don't really understand what you mean by 'doesn't fit defensively'? RJ has a defensive rating of 117 while Cam's is 113. I thought he was a starter for the Suns after Crowder decided he was too good for the team. I also don't understand why you think he only plays PF. I thought he plays both 3/4. Think similar body type as Reddish with 3" less wingspan but a little taller.

Cam pretty much plays 4. He can play 3 in some matchups, but the defense is taking a L mostbof the season. He filled in for Crowder, but crowder was also playing 4. In all, I think Cam pulls around $20M per. I don't think Cam is a bad player, just got in terms of salary and role is off.

Im having trouble following how a guy who is the right age, the right size, has the right skillset, has athleticism, doesn't demand the ball, doesn't cost us youth and 1st rd picks in a trade because he is a FA has a 'role that is off'. Maybe explain that to me??

He's a four and we already have one who is better? And he's not going to get backup money. I think we learned from Isaiah about the dangers of smashing talented square pegs into round holes.

Johnson is a 3 and D wing who can also play the 4 in small ball line ups. Nets play 5 out and do really have a center. Johnson while 3” taller than RJ weighs less at 210lbs. He is neither a PF or a tweener, he is a wing.

Johnson is a perimeter4 who can play 3 in certain lineups. He played 4 in Phoenix. I don't see him as a clean fit at the 3. He would get eaten up on D. And there's the price tag.

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BigDaddyG wrote:

Rookie wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Rookie wrote:Forget that Dame is 32 or a second, he's 6'2" and probably not the answer. As great as he is, not a good fit next to Brunson. I think signing Cam Johnson as a FA is more realistic and costs us nothing in assets

I'm not paying Cam Johnson to be a backup. We need a legit wing and he's a four.

Cam has legit size for his position 6'8" 210lbs), shoots a better percentage (47/40) and is a solid defender. He wins RJ's spot as a starter easily.

But he's not a wing and doesn't fit defensively. You're willing to pay starter type money on a backup?

Cam probably gets Mitch money. I don't really understand what you mean by 'doesn't fit defensively'? RJ has a defensive rating of 117 while Cam's is 113. I thought he was a starter for the Suns after Crowder decided he was too good for the team. I also don't understand why you think he only plays PF. I thought he plays both 3/4. Think similar body type as Reddish with 3" less wingspan but a little taller.

Cam pretty much plays 4. He can play 3 in some matchups, but the defense is taking a L mostbof the season. He filled in for Crowder, but crowder was also playing 4. In all, I think Cam pulls around $20M per. I don't think Cam is a bad player, just got in terms of salary and role is off.

Im having trouble following how a guy who is the right age, the right size, has the right skillset, has athleticism, doesn't demand the ball, doesn't cost us youth and 1st rd picks in a trade because he is a FA has a 'role that is off'. Maybe explain that to me??

He's a four and we already have one who is better? And he's not going to get backup money. I think we learned from Isaiah about the dangers of smashing talented square pegs into round holes.

Johnson is a 3 and D wing who can also play the 4 in small ball line ups. Nets play 5 out and do really have a center. Johnson while 3” taller than RJ weighs less at 210lbs. He is neither a PF or a tweener, he is a wing.

Johnson is a perimeter4 who can play 3 in certain lineups. He played 4 in Phoenix. I don't see him as a clean fit at the 3. He would get eaten up on D. And there's the price tag.

Let us hope your insanity can be cured. Johnson played some 4 in Phoenix so he could share the floor with Bridges who plays the 3. It’s the same deal in Brooklyn. Johnson is not strong enough to guard big PF’s like Randle. He is a liability on D guarding PF’s. He is a wing. Johnson and Bridges are both wings. If Johnson is a PF then I guess Royce O’Neil is a Center. Get how this works yet?