martin wrote:

TPercy wrote:So who is that #1 option we could target for 2024/25?

For trade?

Trade or FA S/T

TPercy wrote:

martin wrote:

TPercy wrote:So who is that #1 option we could target for 2024/25?

For trade?

Trade or FA S/T

Some Knicks fans want to sprint before they can crawl and think timelines for potential years-long dynasties, but I'm only thinking the length of Randle-Brunson-Mitch's contracts and THIS current cap era (which is going to change in '25-26.

I'm looking at Kawhi OR PG-13.

Either would be PERFECT for the Knicks at the three. And as opposed to having an issue with them being vets on the wrong side of 30, I think for a couple of years it would be ideal.

And they're western conference (one less barrier to a trade) and neither have long contracts, and there's issues in Clipper-world right now. And given their age, contract status and health issues, they (theoretically) wouldn't have a KD-level price tag.

If Barrett, Fournier, and some (relatively) significant draft capital could get either one, I pull that trigger in a second.

I know both are west coast guys and NY might not be their first choice, and Ballmer might be the type just to run it back anyway (like Cuban he seems to get attached to his stars), but I take a 2 year run of Brunson-Grimes-George/Kawhi-Randle-Robinson in a heartbeat, albeit with some regular season PT issues.

Knickoftime wrote:

TPercy wrote:

martin wrote:

TPercy wrote:So who is that #1 option we could target for 2024/25?

For trade?

Trade or FA S/T

Some Knicks fans want to sprint before they can crawl and think timelines for potential years-long dynasties, but I'm only thinking the length of Randle-Brunson-Mitch's contracts and THIS current cap era (which is going to change in '25-26.

I'm looking at Kawhi OR PG-13.

Either would be PERFECT for the Knicks at the three. And as opposed to having an issue with them being vets on the wrong side of 30, I think for a couple of years it would be ideal.

And they're western conference (one less barrier to a trade) and neither have long contracts, and there's issues in Clipper-world right now. And given their age, contract status and health issues, they (theoretically) wouldn't have a KD-level price tag.

If Barrett, Fournier, and some (relatively) significant draft capital could get either one, I pull that trigger in a second.

I know both are west coast guys and NY might not be their first choice, and Ballmer might be the type just to run it back anyway (like Cuban he seems to get attached to his stars), but I take a 2 year run of Brunson-Grimes-George/Kawhi-Randle-Robinson in a heartbeat, albeit with some regular season PT issues.

Now we are talking at least IMO.

foosballnick wrote:

TPercy wrote:

martin wrote:

TPercy wrote:So who is that #1 option we could target for 2024/25?

For trade?

Trade or FA S/T

Some notable 2024 UFAs (at this point- of course always subject to extending/re-signings)......Klay, Middleton, Harden, Siakam, KP, Jaylen Brown, Daymond Green, Sabonis, Trent Jr, Kuzma

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2024/ufa/

For 2023 - if we can clear cap-space, I like both Jerami Grant (UFA) and Cam Johnson (RFA) to play either both starting SF & backup PF (when Randle is taking a breather).

Se above. almost certainly the Knicks are out of the significant FA business for a while.

Wonder if we can entice the Pelicans to move Ingram. Something like RJ, Fournier, Obi and Picks for Ingram and Nance Jr. would work from a Salary perspective

JB / IQ / Rokas
Grimes / IQ
Ingram / J Hart (re-signed)
Randle / Nance Jr.
Mitch / I-Hart

Deeper Bench - Deuce, Sims & Draft Pix

Bring back Taj at minimum as a player/coach

Let Rose fly unless he wants to return for the Minimum.

I get the logic (somewhat) with the RJ-Zion connection, but that would likely require the Pels blowing it up entirely. Hard to see McCollum not being the guy first in line to go before Ingram. And they already have significant (and likely quality) draft capital.

Knickoftime wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

TPercy wrote:

martin wrote:

TPercy wrote:So who is that #1 option we could target for 2024/25?

For trade?

Trade or FA S/T

Some notable 2024 UFAs (at this point- of course always subject to extending/re-signings)......Klay, Middleton, Harden, Siakam, KP, Jaylen Brown, Daymond Green, Sabonis, Trent Jr, Kuzma

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2024/ufa/

For 2023 - if we can clear cap-space, I like both Jerami Grant (UFA) and Cam Johnson (RFA) to play either both starting SF & backup PF (when Randle is taking a breather).

Se above. almost certainly the Knicks are out of the significant FA business for a while.

Wonder if we can entice the Pelicans to move Ingram. Something like RJ, Fournier, Obi and Picks for Ingram and Nance Jr. would work from a Salary perspective

JB / IQ / Rokas
Grimes / IQ
Ingram / J Hart (re-signed)
Randle / Nance Jr.
Mitch / I-Hart

Deeper Bench - Deuce, Sims & Draft Pix

Bring back Taj at minimum as a player/coach

Let Rose fly unless he wants to return for the Minimum.

I get the logic (somewhat) with the RJ-Zion connection, but that would likely require the Pels blowing it up entirely. Hard to see McCollum not being the guy first in line to go before Ingram. And they already have significant (and likely quality) draft capital.

https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612740/lineups-advanced?CF=MIN*GE*200&GroupQuantity=2&dir=D&sort=NET_RATING

Yeah, Ingram seems to have very positive Two man lineups. Not sure why they move him. He and Zion appear to have one of their best net ratings on the floor. They need help at Center, their centers are in all of their worst Net Rating lineups, between Hayes and Valancius. They can probably get their guy with the Laker's pick this year 7(?).

Chandler wrote:since we love essentially everyone in the rotation at least some of the itme, it will be a difficult off season

i have a tough time identifying the superstar to come here at this point that i'd actually like -- Embiid but no idea how that would look

smaller bore move would be shooting like cam johnson

Nalod wrote:Do we know that Zion and RJ actually like each other? Sure they were teammates for 7 or so months but that was 4 years ago. They have history together. Don't mean they like each other and the basis of a trade.

Not the basis of a trade, the makings of a premise his value to the Pels might be a little higher.

That said they seemed pretty chummy on good terms after the game the other night.

Does that mean they'd both sleep with John Stamos and build bunk beds for the best night ever?

Who knows?

Nalod wrote:

Chandler wrote:since we love essentially everyone in the rotation at least some of the itme, it will be a difficult off season

i have a tough time identifying the superstar to come here at this point that i'd actually like -- Embiid but no idea how that would look

smaller bore move would be shooting like cam johnson

Embiid at 29 (this month) is no doubt a top 5 player at the top of his game.
His extension does not have the protections against back or knee issues his earlier contract has.
There is always a worry with some players that in trade for at the very top of prime years on a super max that can really destroy a team.
Westbrook play was one thing, his contract was another. John Wall. These are big numbers for players that talk more than perform.
Have not heard boo from John wall who earlier this season talking like he was done wrong. He broke down again.
Out of my hands and I lack a better idea so who am I to **** on it.
I doubt we trade For embiid and hold both brunson and Randle...........
He would come at a big price. one has to figure trade for big star needs time to rebuild around. Its why the whole DM to cavs thing is far from being able to grade.

Embiid's game will age better than Westbrook and Wall etc.

And though it would suck to lose someone like Mitchell (home grown plus seems like a great teammate) if there were a way to squeeze Embiid in, jebus we would be tough. Plus he can handle NYC

that said, odds have to be miniscule but with Harden potentially leaving who knows