fishmike wrote:

blkexec wrote:

martin wrote:

blkexec wrote:Let it go fish. How I feel about thibs means nothing right now.

That's the heart of it. A lot of things you keep repeating mean nothing.

If that’s you and fish take, I’m ok with that. If everything I said means nothing, I’m 100% fine with that.

Now that’s not my approach. There’s several posters that say stuff I don’t understand or agree and that’s ok. One thing we all agree on is the Knicks trying to win a chip. That’s the ultimate goal we all agree with (I think 🤔). I could be wrong.

when you repeat the same things that "mean nothing" it's clearly agenda driven.

He’s doing better but same ole thibs.

your words

So this the statement thats bothering you? This is my opinion. What’s the problem? Come on fish you better than that.

blkexec wrote:

fishmike wrote:

blkexec wrote:

martin wrote:

blkexec wrote:Let it go fish. How I feel about thibs means nothing right now.

That's the heart of it. A lot of things you keep repeating mean nothing.

If that’s you and fish take, I’m ok with that. If everything I said means nothing, I’m 100% fine with that.

Now that’s not my approach. There’s several posters that say stuff I don’t understand or agree and that’s ok. One thing we all agree on is the Knicks trying to win a chip. That’s the ultimate goal we all agree with (I think 🤔). I could be wrong.

when you repeat the same things that "mean nothing" it's clearly agenda driven.

He’s doing better but same ole thibs.

your words

So this the statement thats bothering you? This is my opinion. What’s the problem? Come on fish you better than that.

HofstraBBall wrote:

blkexec wrote:Fish, I complained about thibs playing his starters too long in the 4th quarter since his first year. That’s why I said same ole thibs. Playing his starters til the very end. I’m worried more about Randle and how he looked towards the end. He looked beat up and fatigued. More than normal. Glad he came in shape this season.

Do you take into account what the NBA norm is?
Think this is what others are referring to.
"Running to the ground" type statements suggests Thibs plays his players A LOT more than most coaches. Which is just not true.

Yes Hofstra. This was discussed 3 yrs ago when he was hired. I’m sure there’s a long thread about this already. You probably missed that discussion. But that’s why I was surprised fish highlighted this like it’s new. This is old. The stats do not back up this VERY OLD argument about thibs so I understand completely why people are confused about my statement. Running players into the ground is an old statement that Thibs can not run from. That has nothing to do with me or my statement of playing Randle until 25-30 secs was left then he took Randle out. Just a minor point on simple facts and why people complained about thibs from day one on burning out players. It’s more a perception thing with that.

Don’t worry he will do it again. That’s who thibs is. Plays his guys until he is absolutely sure we won the game. In my opinion he just plays his guys a little longer towards the end than I would like. But that’s my opinion.

“same ole thibs” got everybody or fish rattled I see. I wish I had that much power over my own kids. Thibs has changed but certain things remain the same. And winning by any means necessary is what thibs and most coaches do. It will happen again and I will say “same ole thibs” again. Sorry if that statement offended anyone.

blkexec wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

blkexec wrote:Fish, I complained about thibs playing his starters too long in the 4th quarter since his first year. That’s why I said same ole thibs. Playing his starters til the very end. I’m worried more about Randle and how he looked towards the end. He looked beat up and fatigued. More than normal. Glad he came in shape this season.

Do you take into account what the NBA norm is?
Think this is what others are referring to.
"Running to the ground" type statements suggests Thibs plays his players A LOT more than most coaches. Which is just not true.

Yes Hofstra. This was discussed 3 yrs ago when he was hired. I’m sure there’s a long thread about this already. You probably missed that discussion. But that’s why I was surprised fish highlighted this like it’s new. This is old. The stats do not back up this VERY OLD argument about thibs so I understand completely why people are confused about my statement. Running players into the ground is an old statement that Thibs can not run from. That has nothing to do with me or my statement of playing Randle until 25-30 secs was left then he took Randle out. Just a minor point on simple facts and why people complained about thibs from day one on burning out players. It’s more a perception thing with that.

Don’t worry he will do it again. That’s who thibs is. Plays his guys until he is absolutely sure we won the game. In my opinion he just plays his guys a little longer towards the end than I would like. But that’s my opinion.

“same ole thibs” got everybody or fish rattled I see. I wish I had that much power over my own kids. Thibs has changed but certain things remain the same. And winning by any means necessary is what thibs and most coaches do. It will happen again and I will say “same ole thibs” again. Sorry if that statement offended anyone.

I think it's a quota thing... like since he's holding Randle accountable now there's gotta be SOMETHING we can ride this guy about.

Sarcasm - same ole thibs. Rigid like a cement block.

No Sarcasm - I love thibs. Teaching the yoots how to earn PT

When I say something you can improve on, why does that mean I hate or dislike that person? Maybe I don’t say enough good things about thibs is that it? If I did that, I would sound just like you.

That’s too easy and no fun.

For those who are perfectionists like me will understand. We knit pick to a fault. But thibs is fine. There’s no replacement available so it’s a waste of time to discuss.

Learn to love him and what he brings to the table vs focusing on what he’s not. So I’ll work on that personally. Don’t want the hater label 🏷 to be permanent. I love everybody ❤️

blkexec wrote:No sarcasm - Thibs is exactly what this team needs. Old school rules.

Sarcasm - same ole thibs. Rigid like a cement block.

No Sarcasm - I love thibs. Teaching the yoots how to earn PT

When I say something you can improve on, why does that mean I hate or dislike that person? Maybe I don’t say enough good things about thibs is that it? If I did that, I would sound just like you.

That’s too easy and no fun.

For those who are perfectionists like me will understand. We knit pick to a fault. But thibs is fine. There’s no replacement available so it’s a waste of time to discuss.

Learn to love him and what he brings to the table vs focusing on what he’s not. So I’ll work on that personally. Don’t want the hater label 🏷 to be permanent. I love everybody ❤️

Would agree that it does seem strange to leave starters in with 20 point leads. I had a coach that would rarely take his starting 5 out of a game at the end. Regardless of the lead. He never took us out. Except for maybe one or two guys to give players he felt would step in due to injury. The philosophy was that he wanted us to be in shape and keep our competitive playing style/mindset regardless of the score. Said it is a big challenge to play the right way when you are up big.

The other side of why Thibs does what he does may simply be because players want to stay in. Most do not like being taken out regardless of the score. There is also the adding to stats thing. Maybe why most have said Thibs is such a players coach. Do think minutes should be mitigated more but do not give any credence to the whole "Thibs runs players to the ground" narrative.

fishmike wrote:

blkexec wrote:No sarcasm - Thibs is exactly what this team needs. Old school rules.

Sarcasm - same ole thibs. Rigid like a cement block.

No Sarcasm - I love thibs. Teaching the yoots how to earn PT

When I say something you can improve on, why does that mean I hate or dislike that person? Maybe I don’t say enough good things about thibs is that it? If I did that, I would sound just like you.

That’s too easy and no fun.

For those who are perfectionists like me will understand. We knit pick to a fault. But thibs is fine. There’s no replacement available so it’s a waste of time to discuss.

Learn to love him and what he brings to the table vs focusing on what he’s not. So I’ll work on that personally. Don’t want the hater label 🏷 to be permanent. I love everybody ❤️

I cant tell if you're being sarcastic here or not

It’s probably safe to not jump the gun and simply asked me a question and I’ll give a serious answer. But I’ll admit there’s sarcasm mixed in. But don’t take my criticism as hate or dislike. That’s far from true.

BigDaddyG wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:Monica McNutt in the pregame showed off her curvy and thicky figure Why do some folks here keep talking about boney Rebecca ???

Because you are not talking up Monica?
Different likes for different types.

For me it's her last name. I don't have the displine to stop myself from making inappropriate rhymes.

All good.

fishmike wrote:

Nalod wrote:Thibs held Jules accountable. now he is vying for an allstar spot.

Jules could be a 2x all star under Thibs. Meanwhile we're a winning team under that coach I think, we are going young, developing kids, stocking picks.. Its almost like the program is being turning around right under our noses.... hmmmmm

Lots of synergy all around. Randle won the fans back with those mpv chants