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9/23/2022  10:24 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/25/2022  8:48 PM
I can’t think of a worst off season in recent memory than what the Celtics have had.

It comes out Jaylen brown was on the trade market for KD
Robert Williams out for 3 months
Gallo out for the season
Ime Udoka suspended for a year

Just some horrible stuff.

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9/24/2022  9:42 AM
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This is going to be a big deal if it ever becomes public.

And this is coming from a guy fought Derek Fisher when he was our coach

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9/24/2022  10:45 AM
Why not just fire Udoka? If another team wants that type of person with that low character being their HC so be it.
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9/24/2022  11:39 AM
SergioNYK wrote:Why not just fire Udoka? If another team wants that type of person with that low character being their HC so be it.

That might still happen. Depends on the publicity of what the real deal is and how bad his reputation is in the aftermath. Could be more to come? Depends on how good the team performs his absence as well.
obviously there is more to the story.

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9/24/2022  11:48 AM
SergioNYK wrote:Why not just fire Udoka? If another team wants that type of person with that low character being their HC so be it.

There are positives and negatives to all 3 options. If they fire him they have to pay him all his money and he can sign with a rival team instantly. If he resigns they won't have to pay him any money at all so he will never do that. If they suspend him they avoid having another team pick him up while also saving a lot of money for the time he is suspended for. He gets a small chance that after his suspension he can still coach a championship contender if things go in his favor. They might still fire him after his suspension but it would at least save them some money and buy them some time to think of the best course of action going forward.

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9/24/2022  6:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/24/2022  6:49 PM
So in researching this, Udoka actually is (or at least was) still engaged to Nia Long, so while they were not married, they were still together and she had just moved to Boston to be with him like two weeks ago. Apparently, according to TMZ, it was a female staffer who handled Udoka team related travel and this person had even handled the travel arrangements for Nia when she would come to Boston. Supposedly players were concerned about the situation, which is understandable. Most men would have mad respect for Nia Long as a beautiful African America actress and then your coach is out here smashing the team travel coordinator. Most people would see that it was not going to end well because Nia was going to eventually find out.
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9/25/2022  9:35 AM
Clean wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Why not just fire Udoka? If another team wants that type of person with that low character being their HC so be it.

There are positives and negatives to all 3 options. If they fire him they have to pay him all his money and he can sign with a rival team instantly. If he resigns they won't have to pay him any money at all so he will never do that. If they suspend him they avoid having another team pick him up while also saving a lot of money for the time he is suspended for. He gets a small chance that after his suspension he can still coach a championship contender if things go in his favor. They might still fire him after his suspension but it would at least save them some money and buy them some time to think of the best course of action going forward.

if they can suspend him with cause, they certainly can fire for cause. If so, no remainder of contract. He broke it.

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9/25/2022  9:56 AM
TheGame wrote:So in researching this, Udoka actually is (or at least was) still engaged to Nia Long, so while they were not married, they were still together and she had just moved to Boston to be with him like two weeks ago. Apparently, according to TMZ, it was a female staffer who handled Udoka team related travel and this person had even handled the travel arrangements for Nia when she would come to Boston. Supposedly players were concerned about the situation, which is understandable. Most men would have mad respect for Nia Long as a beautiful African America actress and then your coach is out here smashing the team travel coordinator. Most people would see that it was not going to end well because Nia was going to eventually find out.

That she is a beautiful African actress or not, we don't know the nature of their relationship or what kind of person either are in private.
Steven A asks was the employee f fired or suspended. Its a good question but obviously a tough one to ask. My take would be offer her a very generous severance package, a non disclosure signed regarding the private nature of the affair. I take it they are and have been investingating if he or the team has liability via civil action. If so she gets compensation and signs a non disclosure to settle. Im not saying sweep the wrong doing away. Im saying own it but keep it private among the parties. The details is not important. That the franchise was not dismissing or disrespecting an employee under duress is important.
Is the women "guilty" as well? Perhaps. If so, yes, she gets fired and given the nature of the publicity I give her that severance and if her performance outside of the "corporate indiscretion" was good, she gets a letter of recommendation. If the infraction was consensual and not bloody awful why ruin her life? For all we know she might too be married.

Coaches are the leadership face of the franchise. Do don't fire him having an affair. I fire him for breaching the role model, the distractions in his life and the franchise given his actions because it inhibits his effectiveness and performance. And yes, he broke the rules of his employment. He ****ed up. He'll get another job and be ok.

None of this is good. But life happens.

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9/27/2022  10:00 AM
Nalod wrote:
TheGame wrote:So in researching this, Udoka actually is (or at least was) still engaged to Nia Long, so while they were not married, they were still together and she had just moved to Boston to be with him like two weeks ago. Apparently, according to TMZ, it was a female staffer who handled Udoka team related travel and this person had even handled the travel arrangements for Nia when she would come to Boston. Supposedly players were concerned about the situation, which is understandable. Most men would have mad respect for Nia Long as a beautiful African America actress and then your coach is out here smashing the team travel coordinator. Most people would see that it was not going to end well because Nia was going to eventually find out.

That she is a beautiful African actress or not, we don't know the nature of their relationship or what kind of person either are in private.
Steven A asks was the employee f fired or suspended. Its a good question but obviously a tough one to ask. My take would be offer her a very generous severance package, a non disclosure signed regarding the private nature of the affair. I take it they are and have been investingating if he or the team has liability via civil action. If so she gets compensation and signs a non disclosure to settle. Im not saying sweep the wrong doing away. Im saying own it but keep it private among the parties. The details is not important. That the franchise was not dismissing or disrespecting an employee under duress is important.
Is the women "guilty" as well? Perhaps. If so, yes, she gets fired and given the nature of the publicity I give her that severance and if her performance outside of the "corporate indiscretion" was good, she gets a letter of recommendation. If the infraction was consensual and not bloody awful why ruin her life? For all we know she might too be married.

Coaches are the leadership face of the franchise. Do don't fire him having an affair. I fire him for breaching the role model, the distractions in his life and the franchise given his actions because it inhibits his effectiveness and performance. And yes, he broke the rules of his employment. He ****ed up. He'll get another job and be ok.

None of this is good. But life happens.

I am with SAS on this one. None of this should have been made public. Both Ime and the lady should have been fired. Apparently she is married so she’ll probably get a divorce (but then again, what do I know on this one?). Ime would probably end his engagement (again, what do I know?) but the only people who know are the Celtics and the involved parties. The public would speculate. Ime and the Celtics would be scrutinized. They could all say they had bad disagreements that keep them from being able to do their jobs. Ime could get a job somewhere else. The lady probably could as well. The Celtics don’t look bad.

Instead, they made this public and everyone is f’ed over.

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9/27/2022  10:17 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
TheGame wrote:So in researching this, Udoka actually is (or at least was) still engaged to Nia Long, so while they were not married, they were still together and she had just moved to Boston to be with him like two weeks ago. Apparently, according to TMZ, it was a female staffer who handled Udoka team related travel and this person had even handled the travel arrangements for Nia when she would come to Boston. Supposedly players were concerned about the situation, which is understandable. Most men would have mad respect for Nia Long as a beautiful African America actress and then your coach is out here smashing the team travel coordinator. Most people would see that it was not going to end well because Nia was going to eventually find out.

That she is a beautiful African actress or not, we don't know the nature of their relationship or what kind of person either are in private.
Steven A asks was the employee f fired or suspended. Its a good question but obviously a tough one to ask. My take would be offer her a very generous severance package, a non disclosure signed regarding the private nature of the affair. I take it they are and have been investingating if he or the team has liability via civil action. If so she gets compensation and signs a non disclosure to settle. Im not saying sweep the wrong doing away. Im saying own it but keep it private among the parties. The details is not important. That the franchise was not dismissing or disrespecting an employee under duress is important.
Is the women "guilty" as well? Perhaps. If so, yes, she gets fired and given the nature of the publicity I give her that severance and if her performance outside of the "corporate indiscretion" was good, she gets a letter of recommendation. If the infraction was consensual and not bloody awful why ruin her life? For all we know she might too be married.

Coaches are the leadership face of the franchise. Do don't fire him having an affair. I fire him for breaching the role model, the distractions in his life and the franchise given his actions because it inhibits his effectiveness and performance. And yes, he broke the rules of his employment. He ****ed up. He'll get another job and be ok.

None of this is good. But life happens.

I am with SAS on this one. None of this should have been made public. Both Ime and the lady should have been fired. Apparently she is married so she’ll probably get a divorce (but then again, what do I know on this one?). Ime would probably end his engagement (again, what do I know?) but the only people who know are the Celtics and the involved parties. The public would speculate. Ime and the Celtics would be scrutinized. They could all say they had bad disagreements that keep them from being able to do their jobs. Ime could get a job somewhere else. The lady probably could as well. The Celtics don’t look bad.

Instead, they made this public and everyone is f’ed over.

How do you not make it public? It's going to come out. Boston made it public on their terms, which is best for them.

Not addressing it before training camp would have ****ed the year up even more

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9/27/2022  10:33 AM
martin wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
TheGame wrote:So in researching this, Udoka actually is (or at least was) still engaged to Nia Long, so while they were not married, they were still together and she had just moved to Boston to be with him like two weeks ago. Apparently, according to TMZ, it was a female staffer who handled Udoka team related travel and this person had even handled the travel arrangements for Nia when she would come to Boston. Supposedly players were concerned about the situation, which is understandable. Most men would have mad respect for Nia Long as a beautiful African America actress and then your coach is out here smashing the team travel coordinator. Most people would see that it was not going to end well because Nia was going to eventually find out.

That she is a beautiful African actress or not, we don't know the nature of their relationship or what kind of person either are in private.
Steven A asks was the employee f fired or suspended. Its a good question but obviously a tough one to ask. My take would be offer her a very generous severance package, a non disclosure signed regarding the private nature of the affair. I take it they are and have been investingating if he or the team has liability via civil action. If so she gets compensation and signs a non disclosure to settle. Im not saying sweep the wrong doing away. Im saying own it but keep it private among the parties. The details is not important. That the franchise was not dismissing or disrespecting an employee under duress is important.
Is the women "guilty" as well? Perhaps. If so, yes, she gets fired and given the nature of the publicity I give her that severance and if her performance outside of the "corporate indiscretion" was good, she gets a letter of recommendation. If the infraction was consensual and not bloody awful why ruin her life? For all we know she might too be married.

Coaches are the leadership face of the franchise. Do don't fire him having an affair. I fire him for breaching the role model, the distractions in his life and the franchise given his actions because it inhibits his effectiveness and performance. And yes, he broke the rules of his employment. He ****ed up. He'll get another job and be ok.

None of this is good. But life happens.

I am with SAS on this one. None of this should have been made public. Both Ime and the lady should have been fired. Apparently she is married so she’ll probably get a divorce (but then again, what do I know on this one?). Ime would probably end his engagement (again, what do I know?) but the only people who know are the Celtics and the involved parties. The public would speculate. Ime and the Celtics would be scrutinized. They could all say they had bad disagreements that keep them from being able to do their jobs. Ime could get a job somewhere else. The lady probably could as well. The Celtics don’t look bad.

Instead, they made this public and everyone is f’ed over.

How do you not make it public? It's going to come out. Boston made it public on their terms, which is best for them.

Not addressing it before training camp would have ****ed the year up even more

I'm guessing Udoka's camp was going to leak (initial reports really played up the fact that this was a consensual relationship, leaving out the harassment angle) and Boston tried to do a preemptive strike to control the narrative.

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9/27/2022  10:36 AM
From TMZ

Nia Long says she's gonna need all the support she can get after getting blindsided by her fiance, Celtics Coach Ime Udoka ... who we've learned kept her in the dark about his affair, even though the team busted him months ago.

Sources connected to the team and the couple tell TMZ ... Nia had moved to Boston with Kez, her 10-year-old son with Ime, just 2 weeks ago, and the couple was house hunting.

According to TMZ, the staffer Udoka was having an affair with was helping Nia Long with her move to Boston a few weeks ago. Even though the FO knew about the affair over the summer, and were conducting an investigaton. Udoka was still keeping her in the dark about the affair.

They have a child together.

Normally I wouldnt call for punishing the staffer involved. But she should have had the decency to decline being anywhere near Long or her child. Thats just wrong.

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9/28/2022  5:33 PM
GustavBahler wrote:From TMZ

Nia Long says she's gonna need all the support she can get after getting blindsided by her fiance, Celtics Coach Ime Udoka ... who we've learned kept her in the dark about his affair, even though the team busted him months ago.

Sources connected to the team and the couple tell TMZ ... Nia had moved to Boston with Kez, her 10-year-old son with Ime, just 2 weeks ago, and the couple was house hunting.

According to TMZ, the staffer Udoka was having an affair with was helping Nia Long with her move to Boston a few weeks ago. Even though the FO knew about the affair over the summer, and were conducting an investigaton. Udoka was still keeping her in the dark about the affair.

They have a child together.

Normally I wouldnt call for punishing the staffer involved. But she should have had the decency to decline being anywhere near Long or her child. Thats just wrong.

Wait, the Celtics let this staffer help Nia Long with the move to Boston even though they knew Ime was smashing her!?!? That’s just crazy. This whole thing was a mess and there are probably even more crazy levels to it, which is why they suspended him for the year without much hesitation.

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9/28/2022  5:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/28/2022  5:59 PM
Udoka was apparently confronted about the affair months ago. Maybe the FO knew that Udoka hadnt mentioned anyrhing to Long. It was confirmed when Long didnt act any differently towards the staffer. Might have expected him to immediately address the issue, instead of kicking the can down the road.

Whatever the reason, the staffer should have opted out of speaking to Long, unless it was to apologize for her role in the affair.

TheGame wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:From TMZ

Nia Long says she's gonna need all the support she can get after getting blindsided by her fiance, Celtics Coach Ime Udoka ... who we've learned kept her in the dark about his affair, even though the team busted him months ago.

Sources connected to the team and the couple tell TMZ ... Nia had moved to Boston with Kez, her 10-year-old son with Ime, just 2 weeks ago, and the couple was house hunting.

According to TMZ, the staffer Udoka was having an affair with was helping Nia Long with her move to Boston a few weeks ago. Even though the FO knew about the affair over the summer, and were conducting an investigaton. Udoka was still keeping her in the dark about the affair.

They have a child together.

Normally I wouldnt call for punishing the staffer involved. But she should have had the decency to decline being anywhere near Long or her child. Thats just wrong.

Wait, the Celtics let this staffer help Nia Long with the move to Boston even though they knew Ime was smashing her!?!? That’s just crazy. This whole thing was a mess and there are probably even more crazy levels to it, which is why they suspended him for the year without much hesitation.

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