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gradyandrew
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9/21/2022  10:33 AM
“We are aware of the charges that were filed today against Miles Bridges. These are very serious charges that we will continue to monitor. As this is a legal matter, we will have no further comment at this time,” the Hornets said, via Rod Boone of The Charlotte Observer.

I strongly disagree with your statement "it would be irresponsible to hand down any penalties without knowing all the facts" because I think the league, Hornets, and NBA media are desperately not trying to learn all the facts. They want this to go away.

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BigDaddyG
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9/21/2022  12:32 PM
gradyandrew wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:The wife usually can't drop charges once police are called into do an investigation. Rondo's wife didn't drop any charges, they just reached a settlement on visitation. As far as we know, Miles Bridges is still facing charges and is awaiting a court appearance. The fact remains that both situations remain in flux and it would be irresponsible for the league to had down any penalties without having all the facts. The NBA took nearly a season to investigate Sarver and came to a conclusion. Those situations are different enough that I wouldn't even bother comparing them. The Dan Snyder/Washington Commanders situation is more comparable to be honest.
As far as the teams making any comments, I'm sure their attorneys advised them not to make anything more than a generic statement.

Do you think Miles Bridges allegedly beating his partner is worse than Sarver suggesting a new mother take the day off because babies need their mom and she could be breast feeding?

I'm not trying to be trite or troll. I just want to make sure that we agree on this, cutting all the legal bull**** aside as morally responsible human beings.

I think Miles Bridges is guilty and should be suspended for a decent amount of time. That said, he is innocent until proven guilty and I'm waiting for the legal process to play out before I start attacking all parties involved about what should be done. I don't think what Sarver did is as bad as what Bridges is accused of. But that's not a huge hurdle to clear. Sarver clearly created an antogonistic workplace that made women, queer and straight men and POC uncomfortable. He deserved some form of punishment and he received it. I already stated I'm not fully convinced it's enough to force him to sell the team, but I'm not close enough to the situation to say how Sarver's behavior impacted his underlings. That's for the Phoenix community, the Suns' business partners and other minority partners to decide.

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BigDaddyG
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9/21/2022  12:42 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:The wife usually can't drop charges once police are called into do an investigation. Rondo's wife didn't drop any charges, they just reached a settlement on visitation. As far as we know, Miles Bridges is still facing charges and is awaiting a court appearance. The fact remains that both situations remain in flux and it would be irresponsible for the league to had down any penalties without having all the facts. The NBA took nearly a season to investigate Sarver and came to a conclusion. Those situations are different enough that I wouldn't even bother comparing them. The Dan Snyder/Washington Commanders situation is more comparable to be honest.
As far as the teams making any comments, I'm sure their attorneys advised them not to make anything more than a generic statement.

Do you think Miles Bridges allegedly beating his partner is worse than Sarver suggesting a new mother take the day off because babies need their mom and she could be breast feeding?

I'm not trying to be trite or troll. I just want to make sure that we agree on this, cutting all the legal bull**** aside as morally responsible human beings.

I think Miles Bridges is guilty and should be suspended for a decent amount of time. That said, he is innocent until proven guilty and I'm waiting for the legal process to play out before I start attacking all parties involved about what should be done. I don't think what Sarver did is as bad as what Bridges is accused of. But that's not a huge hurdle to clear. Sarver clearly created an antogonistic workplace that made women, queer and straight men and POC uncomfortable. He deserved some form of punishment and he received it. I already stated I'm not fully convinced it's enough to force him to sell the team, but I'm not close enough to the situation to say how Sarver's behavior impacted his underlings. That's for the Phoenix community, the Suns' business partners and other minority partners to decide.


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Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
Nalod
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9/21/2022  12:47 PM
As discussed, it was the natural conclusion and likely the less damaging for all the reasons discussed previously.
Its how **** works. The court of public opinion is not always accurate but it creates the ultimate reality.
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9/21/2022  2:07 PM
Not sure this is 100% correct but don't think it's 100% wrong either

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gradyandrew
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9/21/2022  6:25 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:The wife usually can't drop charges once police are called into do an investigation. Rondo's wife didn't drop any charges, they just reached a settlement on visitation. As far as we know, Miles Bridges is still facing charges and is awaiting a court appearance. The fact remains that both situations remain in flux and it would be irresponsible for the league to had down any penalties without having all the facts. The NBA took nearly a season to investigate Sarver and came to a conclusion. Those situations are different enough that I wouldn't even bother comparing them. The Dan Snyder/Washington Commanders situation is more comparable to be honest.
As far as the teams making any comments, I'm sure their attorneys advised them not to make anything more than a generic statement.

Do you think Miles Bridges allegedly beating his partner is worse than Sarver suggesting a new mother take the day off because babies need their mom and she could be breast feeding?

I'm not trying to be trite or troll. I just want to make sure that we agree on this, cutting all the legal bull**** aside as morally responsible human beings.

I think Miles Bridges is guilty and should be suspended for a decent amount of time. That said, he is innocent until proven guilty and I'm waiting for the legal process to play out before I start attacking all parties involved about what should be done. I don't think what Sarver did is as bad as what Bridges is accused of. But that's not a huge hurdle to clear. Sarver clearly created an antogonistic workplace that made women, queer and straight men and POC uncomfortable. He deserved some form of punishment and he received it. I already stated I'm not fully convinced it's enough to force him to sell the team, but I'm not close enough to the situation to say how Sarver's behavior impacted his underlings. That's for the Phoenix community, the Suns' business partners and other minority partners to decide.

Guess who employed the first openly gay league executive? Shouldn't actions count more than words?

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9/21/2022  8:02 PM
gradyandrew wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:The wife usually can't drop charges once police are called into do an investigation. Rondo's wife didn't drop any charges, they just reached a settlement on visitation. As far as we know, Miles Bridges is still facing charges and is awaiting a court appearance. The fact remains that both situations remain in flux and it would be irresponsible for the league to had down any penalties without having all the facts. The NBA took nearly a season to investigate Sarver and came to a conclusion. Those situations are different enough that I wouldn't even bother comparing them. The Dan Snyder/Washington Commanders situation is more comparable to be honest.
As far as the teams making any comments, I'm sure their attorneys advised them not to make anything more than a generic statement.

Do you think Miles Bridges allegedly beating his partner is worse than Sarver suggesting a new mother take the day off because babies need their mom and she could be breast feeding?

I'm not trying to be trite or troll. I just want to make sure that we agree on this, cutting all the legal bull**** aside as morally responsible human beings.

I think Miles Bridges is guilty and should be suspended for a decent amount of time. That said, he is innocent until proven guilty and I'm waiting for the legal process to play out before I start attacking all parties involved about what should be done. I don't think what Sarver did is as bad as what Bridges is accused of. But that's not a huge hurdle to clear. Sarver clearly created an antogonistic workplace that made women, queer and straight men and POC uncomfortable. He deserved some form of punishment and he received it. I already stated I'm not fully convinced it's enough to force him to sell the team, but I'm not close enough to the situation to say how Sarver's behavior impacted his underlings. That's for the Phoenix community, the Suns' business partners and other minority partners to decide.

Guess who employed the first openly gay league executive? Shouldn't actions count more than words?

Owning an NBA franchise is a privilege. The standards are higher. It is for any employer anywhere. Specifically for the NBA. When the boss speaks, people listen. His words carry more weight. His presence alone carries meaning. And he is a public figure. Not just a private owner. The community watches his actions and follows it in the news. How we react to this kind of behavior sets the example of how other people will act. You want to own an NBA franchise? Have a couple billion dollars and a little class.

You know I gonna spin wit it
gradyandrew
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9/22/2022  12:53 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:The wife usually can't drop charges once police are called into do an investigation. Rondo's wife didn't drop any charges, they just reached a settlement on visitation. As far as we know, Miles Bridges is still facing charges and is awaiting a court appearance. The fact remains that both situations remain in flux and it would be irresponsible for the league to had down any penalties without having all the facts. The NBA took nearly a season to investigate Sarver and came to a conclusion. Those situations are different enough that I wouldn't even bother comparing them. The Dan Snyder/Washington Commanders situation is more comparable to be honest.
As far as the teams making any comments, I'm sure their attorneys advised them not to make anything more than a generic statement.

Do you think Miles Bridges allegedly beating his partner is worse than Sarver suggesting a new mother take the day off because babies need their mom and she could be breast feeding?

I'm not trying to be trite or troll. I just want to make sure that we agree on this, cutting all the legal bull**** aside as morally responsible human beings.

I think Miles Bridges is guilty and should be suspended for a decent amount of time. That said, he is innocent until proven guilty and I'm waiting for the legal process to play out before I start attacking all parties involved about what should be done. I don't think what Sarver did is as bad as what Bridges is accused of. But that's not a huge hurdle to clear. Sarver clearly created an antogonistic workplace that made women, queer and straight men and POC uncomfortable. He deserved some form of punishment and he received it. I already stated I'm not fully convinced it's enough to force him to sell the team, but I'm not close enough to the situation to say how Sarver's behavior impacted his underlings. That's for the Phoenix community, the Suns' business partners and other minority partners to decide.

Guess who employed the first openly gay league executive? Shouldn't actions count more than words?

Owning an NBA franchise is a privilege. The standards are higher. It is for any employer anywhere. Specifically for the NBA. When the boss speaks, people listen. His words carry more weight. His presence alone carries meaning. And he is a public figure. Not just a private owner. The community watches his actions and follows it in the news. How we react to this kind of behavior sets the example of how other people will act. You want to own an NBA franchise? Have a couple billion dollars and a little class.

I couldn't agree more. 10 million fine seems excessive but you're right about how the community watches his actions. I just think the same holds true for the players, though apparently everyone else on the board disagrees.

gradyandrew
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9/22/2022  1:19 AM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34636682/robert-sarver-says-starting-process-sell-nba-phoenix-suns-wnba-phoenix-mercury

Whoop, there it is.

gradyandrew
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9/22/2022  5:24 AM
Basketball player Anthony Edwards has been fined $40,000 (around £35,000) for making anti-LGBTQ remarks in a video posted to his Instagram account.

The now-deleted video reportedly showed Edwards, 21, rolling down his car window and calling a group of men “queer-ass n****s”, The Guardian reported on 12 September.

Imagine if Sarver had said that

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9/24/2022  9:50 AM
gradyandrew wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:The wife usually can't drop charges once police are called into do an investigation. Rondo's wife didn't drop any charges, they just reached a settlement on visitation. As far as we know, Miles Bridges is still facing charges and is awaiting a court appearance. The fact remains that both situations remain in flux and it would be irresponsible for the league to had down any penalties without having all the facts. The NBA took nearly a season to investigate Sarver and came to a conclusion. Those situations are different enough that I wouldn't even bother comparing them. The Dan Snyder/Washington Commanders situation is more comparable to be honest.
As far as the teams making any comments, I'm sure their attorneys advised them not to make anything more than a generic statement.

Do you think Miles Bridges allegedly beating his partner is worse than Sarver suggesting a new mother take the day off because babies need their mom and she could be breast feeding?

I'm not trying to be trite or troll. I just want to make sure that we agree on this, cutting all the legal bull**** aside as morally responsible human beings.

I think Miles Bridges is guilty and should be suspended for a decent amount of time. That said, he is innocent until proven guilty and I'm waiting for the legal process to play out before I start attacking all parties involved about what should be done. I don't think what Sarver did is as bad as what Bridges is accused of. But that's not a huge hurdle to clear. Sarver clearly created an antogonistic workplace that made women, queer and straight men and POC uncomfortable. He deserved some form of punishment and he received it. I already stated I'm not fully convinced it's enough to force him to sell the team, but I'm not close enough to the situation to say how Sarver's behavior impacted his underlings. That's for the Phoenix community, the Suns' business partners and other minority partners to decide.

Guess who employed the first openly gay league executive? Shouldn't actions count more than words?

You talking about Dolan and Isiah?

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