ramtour420 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:

fishmike wrote:this is mental masturbation.... you guys will literally cook up any scenario that ensures you dont have to endure watching the Knick win games with Randle having a bounce back season. It's gonna be a fun season and for all the right reasons

This is exactly where I'm at. Randle was as good a PG as Eastern Conference Champion and DPOY Marcus Smart playing at the power forward position, last season! Burks was a hell of a sniper but not a real PG. The front office finally got an up and coming PG since the first time we paired Amare with Felton and some fans would happily see us tank out way to the number 8 pick. I just don't get it.

If we're wrong there will be plenty of outs later in the season, I just don't get the urgency to create turmoil on the brink of a new season.

because you dont hate Randle and neither do I. He's just another guy. But if you hate him it wrecks your emotional mojo going into this season so you gotta chop that guy

100% agree with you. Thibs, Leon and company have not come this far and done this much work to let Randle wreck the thing. He will be gone if he's the issue. I expect these guys to come in in great shape and I us to have one of the best defensive teams from the start.

I dont love Fournier but Grimes is not even close to being as good yet. Randle playing well is much more valuable to us than Randle being gone and Randle playing well is a reasonable goal.

Could you please specify which criteria is this based on? Their 3 point % is identical at 38%. Grimes is better on D. Fournier might be a bit better as a playmaker, although Grimes showed major improvement in that department during summer league. What is it that makes them not close? The only thing I can come up with is experience. Their skills are close already and that's after Grimes played only 1 season

You may want to consider the sample size of each 38%. ie. EF took 619 3pt. shots vs Grimes 189. Hitting .400 in MLB is a lot harder to do for more than a month of baseball. You also stated it yourself, Grimes has ONLY played for ONE season (46 games) vs EF 10 year 38%. Not saying this proves who will be better. Just that sample size matters. Grimes eventual starting role will be earned if he continues to perform at high level. Rushing it after just 46 games may be the argument for the other side.

https://elitesportsny.com/2017/03/24/the-new-york-knicks-should-start-chasson-randle-and-ron-baker-for-the-remainder-of-the-year/

https://dailyknicks.com/2017/07/18/new-york-knicks-frank-ntilikina-bust/

https://dailyknicks.com/2015/01/16/future-knicks-young-core/

https://www.msgnetworks.com/2017/03/28/young-knicks-core-gives-hope-for-future/

https://nypost.com/2018/05/25/why-knicks-must-resist-the-trae-young-temptation/

Stop pretending it isn’t going to happen

ramtour420 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Randle gonna get stretch provision next offseason fellas

Stop pretending it isn’t going to happen

He might reinvent his game to move off the ball, spot up from the corners and do some PnR with Brunson. Then he would be welcome to stay. Or he could go back to his dribble dribble - off balance fadeaway - fall down- get up to complain to the ref while the action is already on the other side of the court. In that case I think everyone on this board would be ready to trade him for a bag of stale donuts. Or stretch

It’s not like we haven’t done stretch provision on an awful contract PF before

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Randle gonna get stretch provision next offseason fellas

Stop pretending it isn’t going to happen

You keep posting this over and over how about a wager since you are so confident?

Ok, I bet my mid court Knicks season tickets that Randle doesn’t win MVP

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Randle gonna get stretch provision next offseason fellas

Stop pretending it isn’t going to happen

You keep posting this over and over how about a wager since you are so confident?

Ok, I bet my mid court Knicks season tickets that Randle doesn’t win MVP

Try staying on point. You keep making the claim that the Knicks will waive/stretch Randle. Put your money on it or stfu and go back to being a troll on Jets forums.

HofstraBBall wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Randle gonna get stretch provision next offseason fellas

Stop pretending it isn’t going to happen

You keep posting this over and over how about a wager since you are so confident?

Ok, I bet my mid court Knicks season tickets that Randle doesn’t win MVP

Try staying on point. You keep making the claim that the Knicks will waive/stretch Randle. Put your money on it or stfu and go back to being a troll on Jets forums.

Second bet....
Mid court Knicks season tickets = Nana's chair in the basement in front of 19" Zenith TV.

Other easy bet, Randle will put up close to 20/10/5

ramtour420 wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Randle gonna get stretch provision next offseason fellas

Stop pretending it isn’t going to happen

You keep posting this over and over how about a wager since you are so confident?

Ok, I bet my mid court Knicks season tickets that Randle doesn’t win MVP

Try staying on point. You keep making the claim that the Knicks will waive/stretch Randle. Put your money on it or stfu and go back to being a troll on Jets forums.

Second bet....
Mid court Knicks season tickets = Nana's chair in the basement in front of 19" Zenith TV.

Other easy bet, Randle will put up close to 20/10/5

But is it going to be on the Knicks?

No other team or coach are going to let Randle have above 40 min of playing time a game as the teams PG.
Randle has been the Knicks main PG the past 3 seasons. It's time to put some work in at the PF spot, or change your name to Giannis !!!

Philc1 wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Randle gonna get stretch provision next offseason fellas

Stop pretending it isn’t going to happen

You keep posting this over and over how about a wager since you are so confident?

Ok, I bet my mid court Knicks season tickets that Randle doesn’t win MVP

Try staying on point. You keep making the claim that the Knicks will waive/stretch Randle. Put your money on it or stfu and go back to being a troll on Jets forums.

Second bet....
Mid court Knicks season tickets = Nana's chair in the basement in front of 19" Zenith TV.

Other easy bet, Randle will put up close to 20/10/5

Ok I’ll bet my Montréal Expos luxury box for next season if Randle shoots less than 40% from 3 next season

As imaginary as your mid court Knicks season tickets.
You want a PF to shoot 40% from three? That only happens if that PF is one of the best in the league....oh wait, Randle did that...
Huge task. Like expecting any Jets team to win more than two games.

ramtour420 wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:

fishmike wrote:this is mental masturbation.... you guys will literally cook up any scenario that ensures you dont have to endure watching the Knick win games with Randle having a bounce back season. It's gonna be a fun season and for all the right reasons

This is exactly where I'm at. Randle was as good a PG as Eastern Conference Champion and DPOY Marcus Smart playing at the power forward position, last season! Burks was a hell of a sniper but not a real PG. The front office finally got an up and coming PG since the first time we paired Amare with Felton and some fans would happily see us tank out way to the number 8 pick. I just don't get it.

If we're wrong there will be plenty of outs later in the season, I just don't get the urgency to create turmoil on the brink of a new season.

because you dont hate Randle and neither do I. He's just another guy. But if you hate him it wrecks your emotional mojo going into this season so you gotta chop that guy

100% agree with you. Thibs, Leon and company have not come this far and done this much work to let Randle wreck the thing. He will be gone if he's the issue. I expect these guys to come in in great shape and I us to have one of the best defensive teams from the start.

I dont love Fournier but Grimes is not even close to being as good yet. Randle playing well is much more valuable to us than Randle being gone and Randle playing well is a reasonable goal.

Could you please specify which criteria is this based on? Their 3 point % is identical at 38%. Grimes is better on D. Fournier might be a bit better as a playmaker, although Grimes showed major improvement in that department during summer league. What is it that makes them not close? The only thing I can come up with is experience. Their skills are close already and that's after Grimes played only 1 season

You may want to consider the sample size of each 38%. ie. EF took 619 3pt. shots vs Grimes 189. Hitting .400 in MLB is a lot harder to do for more than a month of baseball. You also stated it yourself, Grimes has ONLY played for ONE season (46 games) vs EF 10 year 38%. Not saying this proves who will be better. Just that sample size matters. Grimes eventual starting role will be earned if he continues to perform at high level. Rushing it after just 46 games may be the argument for the other side.

Grimes played 786 minutes total In 21-23 and attempted 189 3 pointers. One attempted every 4.1 minutes played. Fournier attempted 619 4 pointers in 2,358 minutes played in 21-22. Works out to one 3 pointer every 3.8 mins So according to this data they both let it loose from the 3 point land at a nearly identical rate, when accounted for total minutes played. This we can conclude that Grimes needs to play more minutes to see if those sweet % numbers hold up with a larger sample size. Given how he is "not shy to let it fly" I think it's not far fetched

Think he can as well. Point was that he has yet to do so for the span EF has. Therefore each 38% carries different weight.

9th highest paid.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-power-forwards-rankings-2021/112ksvjsq1fvu1rv9xpsmckdym

8th as ranked.

Since you went “I expect”, then remind what qualifies you as anything but a lazy poster?
Where is it even written “he demands iso”. You assume he defies his coach all season long?