Philc1 wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:The insane reaction of media and most fans to these solid move illustrates that our educational system is broken. Or more people are on drugs than we thought. Or something. I hope Leon and company stay the slow rebuild course and don’t give in to the bing bongers and snakes.

Same people screaming blood murder about what the Knicks did were the same people who booed Phil for drafting Porzingis and then had a meltdown 2 years later when Phil tried to trade Porzingis for Fox or Tatum

I’m not gonna lie the way the trades were initially presented didn’t make sense too so that didn’t help matters

Uptown wrote:

TPercy wrote:

efw wrote:Here's another piece of info about the picks from someone on Reddit. I won't claim to fully understand, but thought it might be of interest:

That’s not how pick protection value works.
Nowadays you don’t see picks traded without protections so the protections on those picks are pretty much normal. Now the real value of those picks are the fact that we now control Washingtons and Detroits ability to trade the rest of their picks. Which means if they are looking to make moves and use those picks they need to pay us to lift those restrictions. So not only will we have the picks but they’ll pay us to make them unrestricted to gain the ability to trade.
Getting 3 future first round picks for pick 11 in a weak draft where no prospect is expected to be a franchise changer is an amazing return.

For example detroits pick is heavily protected for the next 3-4 years so they can’t trade any other pick until like 2028. If next year they wanna make a swing for another star and they wanna be able to use the rest of their picks they’ll have to call us and ask us to lift the protections so they aren’t bound by the stepian rule.
That’s when Leon is gonna be like “ok no problem give me a second round pick for each year of protection left”

Credit to u/DosViews

Im actually quite happy. I didn't consider this either. Leon Rose is the man and I'm glad im not a GM. Also consider this: we don't HAVE to get Brunson. We could easily try and absorb a bad contract for more draft picks.

We could and that's the plan I have been advocating for, for years but, I think the purpose of opening up this cap space is because Brunson has given them every indication that he will sign here as a FA if we have space.

Yeah that’s true. I also think that we won’t be the most competitive team in that department as Pacers, Magic, and Detroit can just absorb more.

TPercy wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:The insane reaction of media and most fans to these solid move illustrates that our educational system is broken. Or more people are on drugs than we thought. Or something. I hope Leon and company stay the slow rebuild course and don’t give in to the bing bongers and snakes.

Same people screaming blood murder about what the Knicks did were the same people who booed Phil for drafting Porzingis and then had a meltdown 2 years later when Phil tried to trade Porzingis for Fox or Tatum

I’m not gonna lie the way the trades were initially presented didn’t make sense too so that didn’t help matters

martin wrote:

Balroy wrote:Just not seeing it how it's been presented here.

From my view:

Knicks give 1 tree - Jalen Williams
Knicks get 1 stump - Jalen Brunson

Knicks give 25-30 Mil. cap space (locked up in Brunson)
Knicks get 14 Mil. cap space

Knicks give four 2nd round picks
Knicks get three 2nd round picks (one late first round pick that equals a 2nd round pick and 2 picks that become 2nd round picks)

Yet somehow we came out ahead

Cause all your understanding is completely off? This is not rocket science

Can I nominate that analysis for worst analysis? I don’t think there is a single sentence that is accurate, even taking each statement at its strongest.

Welpee wrote:

TPercy wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:The insane reaction of media and most fans to these solid move illustrates that our educational system is broken. Or more people are on drugs than we thought. Or something. I hope Leon and company stay the slow rebuild course and don’t give in to the bing bongers and snakes.

Same people screaming blood murder about what the Knicks did were the same people who booed Phil for drafting Porzingis and then had a meltdown 2 years later when Phil tried to trade Porzingis for Fox or Tatum

I’m not gonna lie the way the trades were initially presented didn’t make sense too so that didn’t help matters

It also doesn't help that our front office won't talk to the fans or the media.

Maybe so. What got me was live on draft nigjt they said okc gave us 4 1sts so that’s what I went on lol