There are many good reasons for peace but that’s not one of them. The entire world including his own military would turn against him

ramtour420 wrote:

JesseDark wrote:90 days in and Russia has completely embarrassed itself. Thank God we don’t have a president who is a cheerleader for Putin.

Right, the Ruble is the strongest currency out of all of them in 2022 because now all fossil fuels sold by Russia are bought through Rubles. America wants to ban the use if Saramat missiles( able to carry nukes) because there is no air defense system in the world that can stop them. Russia made more money selling fossil fuels this year already then all of last year. Putin has 80% support of Russians , higher than before the Special Military Operation. Europe's economy as it turns out is dependent on gas from Russia.

Oh ,one last thing, perhaps the fracking gas extraction might make a comeback in the US because of the raise in gas prices. Which in turn will be poisoning the ground water in the US. Tens of billions of dollars of aid are disappearing in the pockets of Ukrainian people of power instead of making a real difference in the fighting. Did I mention new contracts between India, China and Russia to buy fossil fuels ?

If by "completely embarrassed" you mean looking to take the reins from the US as the world leading political power then you are right

It's obvious you have a pro Russian bias. That is fine because all viewpoints are welcome. However, some of these arguments you are using are weak. Who cares what Putin's support is among Russians? They are brain washed by state run media. With how they have control over all media if his support was not high that would be even more embarrassing. After the protests in Russia when the war started they just made it illegal to protest the war.

The point you made about Nukes is useless because there is no defense for how Nukes would be used in a real world situation. Nukes will not be fired in a one missiles to blow up your enemy thing. They will fired with many at a time. Also the most likely time a Nuke would be caught by air defenses if it happens at all will be in your own territory. The reason for this is because catching a nuke in enemy territory is virtually impossible and a good portion of its trajectory is done in space. Needless to say blowing up a Nuke over your own territory while better than having the Nuke explode by itself is still very bad because you will be showered with radioactive material. The second someone presses the nuke button both territories will be wiped off the face of the planet. This has become the best deterrent for anyone using it.

If you want to be proud of Russia struggling with a small Ukraine army that they outnumber by an extradentary amount that is fine with me. Remember that "Special Operation" was meant to only last a week. How long has this war been going on for again?

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ESOMKnicks wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

JesseDark wrote:90 days in and Russia has completely embarrassed itself. Thank God we don’t have a president who is a cheerleader for Putin.

Right, the Ruble is the strongest currency out of all of them in 2022

Hahaha, this is an example of how Putin's regime paints a picture favorable to itself, to hide a wholly unwholesome reality. But do not be fooled by this. If you walk into a Russian bank today and ask to buy dollars, you will be charged 25% on top of the "official" or "currency market" exchange rate. And if instead of dealing in cash you convert roubles into dollars within your bank account, you will get a rate close to the "official" one, but the trick is: you will not be able to withdraw these dollars until September!!!!

So what use is talking about the strength of a currency, if there is no civilized functioning market for it (black market rates are vastly different from the official ones)?

It's not painting pictures man, you can look it up on the internet. It's actually a fact.

ramtour420 wrote:

JesseDark wrote:90 days in and Russia has completely embarrassed itself. Thank God we don’t have a president who is a cheerleader for Putin.

Right, the Ruble is the strongest currency out of all of them in 2022 because now all fossil fuels sold by Russia are bought through Rubles. America wants to ban the use if Saramat missiles( able to carry nukes) because there is no air defense system in the world that can stop them. Russia made more money selling fossil fuels this year already then all of last year. Putin has 80% support of Russians , higher than before the Special Military Operation. Europe's economy as it turns out is dependent on gas from Russia.

Oh ,one last thing, perhaps the fracking gas extraction might make a comeback in the US because of the raise in gas prices. Which in turn will be poisoning the ground water in the US. Tens of billions of dollars of aid are disappearing in the pockets of Ukrainian people of power instead of making a real difference in the fighting. Did I mention new contracts between India, China and Russia to buy fossil fuels ?

If by "completely embarrassed" you mean looking to take the reins from the US as the world leading political power then you are right

I kinda guess the answer but putting aside the implications this war has had or not had in terms of economics in Russia.
Just asking for a quick and simple answer from your side - is there any justification for this war (you can call it Special Military Operation if you prefer but its a war we talk about) from your point of view?
Any justification for the bloodshed, cruelty and brutal behaviour?

I expect Putins propaganda feedback here but am open for a surprise...
Also... are you currently living in Russia?

ramtour420 wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

JesseDark wrote:90 days in and Russia has completely embarrassed itself. Thank God we don’t have a president who is a cheerleader for Putin.

Right, the Ruble is the strongest currency out of all of them in 2022

Hahaha, this is an example of how Putin's regime paints a picture favorable to itself, to hide a wholly unwholesome reality. But do not be fooled by this. If you walk into a Russian bank today and ask to buy dollars, you will be charged 25% on top of the "official" or "currency market" exchange rate. And if instead of dealing in cash you convert roubles into dollars within your bank account, you will get a rate close to the "official" one, but the trick is: you will not be able to withdraw these dollars until September!!!!

So what use is talking about the strength of a currency, if there is no civilized functioning market for it (black market rates are vastly different from the official ones)?

It's not painting pictures man, you can look it up on the internet. It's actually a fact.

If its on the internet, it must be true? OK. Im reading Putin has blood cancer and not doing well. Man not feeling well should step down and get well. Maybe if terminal spend his remaining days in good light with loved ones.
They are the conquerors. A barbaric act made necessary for years administrating a failed economic policy does not justify a thing. The corruption of moving state owned assets to the very few rolled on the graves the tens of millions who died from sacrifices made for the soviet state since the revolution. Putin and the oligarchs resemble the monarchs the Bolsheviks threw out of power. What a waste. The Russian economy with its vast resources equals Italy's and outside of its energy exports does little else. Italy crates fashion, toursim, art, manufacutre fine arms, ships, and cars. Russia is know for what? What industry have the furthered since the fall of the Berlin wall to distinguish itself? Its a thug run state with massive corruption. A fine history of music, Writing and dance going to waste. I won't demonize the people. This is about governing and Putin has failed to advance his people.

This is the man Trump so envy's.

Yes, I fear Putin as a wounded animal cornered is very dangerous. I respect his power to destroy.