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franco12 wrote:

martin wrote:

franco12 wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Can’t play these guys so many minutes. His legs are tired and his shots off.Reddish was fine could’ve played 5-7 minutes more. Coach has been doing Tgis every club he’s on. He’s gotta follow what other good coaches do MANAGE your players minutes better
Another 16 point lead blown.

I really don’t understand the minutes allocation Thibs is using. I’d really like some insight - just as a fan - just so I don’t have to sit here thinking it is shortsighted and stupid.

Thing is, if they were winning, it was fubar. Now that they are on a 7 game losing streak, it just seems lazy and misguided. If it’s a tank, stop burning out Barrett and Randle. If it’s not a tank, stop burning out Barrett and Randle. Game theory implies Thibs is just running these guys into the ground.

I have a hard time trying to understand Thibs on this.

Is Thibs old school, and thinks guys can go long on minutes?

Does he trust certain players?

Does he think players can play through their struggles, get over the hump by soldiering on?

Does he view his allocation of playing time as a reward for players doing well in practice?

RJ averaging 33 minutes a game this year. Plays a couple of 40 minute games and suddenly the world is going mad?

I guess there is nothing left to do but complain about anything?

At some point a coach has to say a player doesn't have it in a given game, and even though the player you turn to could be inferior on a talent basis, you have to make a switch.

That, and because of his recent injury, clearly when a player is struggling performance wise, his body might be tired, and he could suffer another injury.

We can't win games that cost us.

we have Cam and Obi that should have been able to give us minutes. I get it, that we might lose- Thibs doesn't want to do that. But maybe we'd have won.

I don't mind RJ playing big minutes if he is hot and is having his way. But if he is physically spent or performing horribly, sit him. I'd rather get a good shot from Obi or Cam than a bad shot from RJ. That is me and my thinking.

RJ isn't Michael Jordan or Derrek Rose.

Coach Thibs flunked in improving young-players in Chicago and Minnesota.
Giving the 21 yr old Barrett 40 min in a blowout game reminded me of the young D.Rose and Deng on the Chicago Bulls having a injury-prone career after a couple of seasons being coached by Thibs.
The only thing Coach Thibs are teaching Randle and the 21 yr old RJ Barrett's NBA growth are how to be a Stat-Player. The two players learned nothing about how to win games under coach Thibs tutelage for 2 seasons.
They have NO winning skills in the NBA, their 4th quarter performance are the pits !!!

You want to develop a star? This is what is being done with RJ. Can’t say we throw all the yoot out there and let them lost bad.
for the most part few blowouts this season and many close games. Blown leads have some effect that they built a lead to begin with.

Thibs is stubborn but aren’t most of the great ones?

KnickDanger wrote:

losmeister wrote:Rj's problem isnt his minutes.

Its the fact that he isnt a good shooter. almost 3k shots into his career... he's in the bottom 25

Fournier shoots a higher %. And most ofg yall hate EF.

Dolanite KNicks picked a rotational guy at #3. smfh

Tonight 31 points, 10 of 20 including 5 of 11 from 3 and 6 of 7 from the line. Overall good stat line. I know that makes you sad.

Not at all. I LOVE that line.

However, he has ONE of those games then... ( after his last 50% game)
7-16 (decent)
9-25 bad
8-21 bad

He's a bottom ofthe league shooter at his position.

losmeister wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

losmeister wrote:Rj's problem isnt his minutes.

Its the fact that he isnt a good shooter. almost 3k shots into his career... he's in the bottom 25

Fournier shoots a higher %. And most ofg yall hate EF.

Dolanite KNicks picked a rotational guy at #3. smfh

Tonight 31 points, 10 of 20 including 5 of 11 from 3 and 6 of 7 from the line. Overall good stat line. I know that makes you sad.

Not at all. I LOVE that line.

However, he has ONE of those games then... ( after his last 50% game)
7-16 (decent)
9-25 bad
8-21 bad

He's a bottom ofthe league shooter at his position.

The one saving grace potential, here is Booker's first 3 years versus RJ's.

He has got to fix that shooting but it's doable

Season	Age	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	PTS
2019-20	19	56	55	30.4	5.2	13	0.402	1.1	3.5	0.32	4.1	9.5	0.432	0.445	14.3
2020-21	20	72	72	34.9	6.5	14.7	0.441	1.7	4.3	0.401	4.8	10.4	0.457	0.499	17.6
2021-22	21	58	58	34.1	6.8	16.5	0.415	2	5.7	0.351	4.8	10.8	0.449	0.476	19.5
															
Season	Age	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	PTS
2015-16	19	76	51	27.7	4.8	11.4	0.423	1.3	3.8	0.343	3.5	7.6	0.464	0.48	13.8
2016-17	20	78	78	35	7.8	18.3	0.423	1.9	5.2	0.363	5.9	13.2	0.447	0.475	22.1
2017-18	21	54	54	34.5	8.4	19.5	0.432	2.7	7.1	0.383	5.7	12.4	0.46	0.501	24.9