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Knicks adding to FO? (Knicks hire Gersson Rosas as Consultant)
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2/10/2022  8:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/10/2022  8:31 AM
Nalod wrote:Rosas is a consultant. As for his toxic nature as an exec he is not being asked to over see employees or have anyone report to.
Might even just be remoting in. What is he good at? Scouting? Evaluation? Some trade savvy? Understanding other teams and their needs?
His Marriage? Not our business. Its stupid to have an affair at work for many reasons. As an officer of the company that becomes a potential liablity. His toxic nature with others? Either don’t put him in a positions to manage or send him to HR training and get it right. Great basketball minds are not always good people.

What did he do well at? Minny is on the right track. If knicks have a desire to get KAT its not about him being cozy with him, its about a deal with Minny? Is that the only thing they would be working on? Likely not.

Is there someine in our FO leaving at seasons end? Maybe he fills that spot? For all we know its a short term assisgnment he is here? We don’t know. Maybe Aller is up for a promotion to another team? Did Portland fill its presidency? Perry was rumored to be on the short list of candidates. He is tight with Coach billups there. Teams let execs out of contract with promotions. This is a thing.

Our FO stepped in and hired Thibs and turned the team around in one season. I can’t see blowing up the FO changes anything.

Since you asked this is an explanation of what to expect from him from a Wolves fan.

"I know ya'll are struggling right now, but I promise you, this hiring is better than any trade ya'll could've gotten. He had many "personal" issues in his time in Sota, but the dude does not sleep until every possible move is considered. And hes a draft/trade wizard. Once this guy moves into a higher role (which he will).. You guys are going to see really good returns. Be excited Knicks fans, this is big."

"I read somewhere that he is a big proprietor of pace and space. Is that true?"

"Big time.. Outscoring teams by playing better offense is the name of the game for him. He basically removed the mid range shot during his Wolves tenure."

"Maybe it would’ve been smarter than to hire this guy with more than 30 hours before the trade deadline…"

"100% - IMO I would expect a complete roster overhaul within a year. With the Wolves, he removed/traded all but 2 players within 15 months. The man does everything his way, but hes incredibly smart."

"He was hired after Thibs was already gone, but I'd expect Thibs to be gone again if Rosas has any leverage. Rosas is all about advanced analytics and outscoring teams (rather than the defensive approach Thibs has). Think Houston Rockets during Harden era."

"He made a ton of really good draft picks:
- Anthony Edwards
- Jaden McDaniels
- Naz Reid (signed undrafted)
- Jaylen Nowell

Finessed the Nuggets into basically giving us Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt for Robert Covington
Facilitated the trade to acquire DLO for Wiggins and a 1st (which turned into Kuminga) but at the time was incredible to get off that Wiggins contract without giving multiple picks."

"my biggest gripe on Rosas, is that sometimes he makes trades for picks ahead of time, instead of seeing what's available before he pulls the trigger. But I'm telling you, the guy puts so much effort into his job. This is a big win for NYK fans."

Also remember he is just a consultant. So while he might want to do a lot of these things Rose will have the final say.

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2/10/2022  8:44 AM
Clean wrote:
Nalod wrote:Rosas is a consultant. As for his toxic nature as an exec he is not being asked to over see employees or have anyone report to.
Might even just be remoting in. What is he good at? Scouting? Evaluation? Some trade savvy? Understanding other teams and their needs?
His Marriage? Not our business. Its stupid to have an affair at work for many reasons. As an officer of the company that becomes a potential liablity. His toxic nature with others? Either don’t put him in a positions to manage or send him to HR training and get it right. Great basketball minds are not always good people.

What did he do well at? Minny is on the right track. If knicks have a desire to get KAT its not about him being cozy with him, its about a deal with Minny? Is that the only thing they would be working on? Likely not.

Is there someine in our FO leaving at seasons end? Maybe he fills that spot? For all we know its a short term assisgnment he is here? We don’t know. Maybe Aller is up for a promotion to another team? Did Portland fill its presidency? Perry was rumored to be on the short list of candidates. He is tight with Coach billups there. Teams let execs out of contract with promotions. This is a thing.

Our FO stepped in and hired Thibs and turned the team around in one season. I can’t see blowing up the FO changes anything.

Since you asked this is an explanation of what to expect from him from a Wolves fan.

"I know ya'll are struggling right now, but I promise you, this hiring is better than any trade ya'll could've gotten. He had many "personal" issues in his time in Sota, but the dude does not sleep until every possible move is considered. And hes a draft/trade wizard. Once this guy moves into a higher role (which he will).. You guys are going to see really good returns. Be excited Knicks fans, this is big."

"I read somewhere that he is a big proprietor of pace and space. Is that true?"

"Big time.. Outscoring teams by playing better offense is the name of the game for him. He basically removed the mid range shot during his Wolves tenure."

"Maybe it would’ve been smarter than to hire this guy with more than 30 hours before the trade deadline…"

"100% - IMO I would expect a complete roster overhaul within a year. With the Wolves, he removed/traded all but 2 players within 15 months. The man does everything his way, but hes incredibly smart."

"He was hired after Thibs was already gone, but I'd expect Thibs to be gone again if Rosas has any leverage. Rosas is all about advanced analytics and outscoring teams (rather than the defensive approach Thibs has). Think Houston Rockets during Harden era."

"He made a ton of really good draft picks:
- Anthony Edwards
- Jaden McDaniels
- Naz Reid (signed undrafted)
- Jaylen Nowell

Finessed the Nuggets into basically giving us Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt for Robert Covington
Facilitated the trade to acquire DLO for Wiggins and a 1st (which turned into Kuminga) but at the time was incredible to get off that Wiggins contract without giving multiple picks."

"my biggest gripe on Rosas, is that sometimes he makes trades for picks ahead of time, instead of seeing what's available before he pulls the trigger. But I'm telling you, the guy puts so much effort into his job. This is a big win for NYK fans."

Also remember he is just a consultant. So while he might want to do a lot of these things Rose will have the final say.

one might assume he had some input on acquiring redish?
That Grimes might be a huge asset in a big trade down the road?
Rosas is a consultant, does that mean he is not an employee?

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2/10/2022  8:52 AM
Clean wrote:
Nalod wrote:Rosas is a consultant. As for his toxic nature as an exec he is not being asked to over see employees or have anyone report to.
Might even just be remoting in. What is he good at? Scouting? Evaluation? Some trade savvy? Understanding other teams and their needs?
His Marriage? Not our business. Its stupid to have an affair at work for many reasons. As an officer of the company that becomes a potential liablity. His toxic nature with others? Either don’t put him in a positions to manage or send him to HR training and get it right. Great basketball minds are not always good people.

What did he do well at? Minny is on the right track. If knicks have a desire to get KAT its not about him being cozy with him, its about a deal with Minny? Is that the only thing they would be working on? Likely not.

Is there someine in our FO leaving at seasons end? Maybe he fills that spot? For all we know its a short term assisgnment he is here? We don’t know. Maybe Aller is up for a promotion to another team? Did Portland fill its presidency? Perry was rumored to be on the short list of candidates. He is tight with Coach billups there. Teams let execs out of contract with promotions. This is a thing.

Our FO stepped in and hired Thibs and turned the team around in one season. I can’t see blowing up the FO changes anything.

Since you asked this is an explanation of what to expect from him from a Wolves fan.

"I know ya'll are struggling right now, but I promise you, this hiring is better than any trade ya'll could've gotten. He had many "personal" issues in his time in Sota, but the dude does not sleep until every possible move is considered. And hes a draft/trade wizard. Once this guy moves into a higher role (which he will).. You guys are going to see really good returns. Be excited Knicks fans, this is big."

"I read somewhere that he is a big proprietor of pace and space. Is that true?"

"Big time.. Outscoring teams by playing better offense is the name of the game for him. He basically removed the mid range shot during his Wolves tenure."

"Maybe it would’ve been smarter than to hire this guy with more than 30 hours before the trade deadline…"

"100% - IMO I would expect a complete roster overhaul within a year. With the Wolves, he removed/traded all but 2 players within 15 months. The man does everything his way, but hes incredibly smart."

"He was hired after Thibs was already gone, but I'd expect Thibs to be gone again if Rosas has any leverage. Rosas is all about advanced analytics and outscoring teams (rather than the defensive approach Thibs has). Think Houston Rockets during Harden era."

"He made a ton of really good draft picks:
- Anthony Edwards
- Jaden McDaniels
- Naz Reid (signed undrafted)
- Jaylen Nowell

Finessed the Nuggets into basically giving us Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt for Robert Covington
Facilitated the trade to acquire DLO for Wiggins and a 1st (which turned into Kuminga) but at the time was incredible to get off that Wiggins contract without giving multiple picks."

"my biggest gripe on Rosas, is that sometimes he makes trades for picks ahead of time, instead of seeing what's available before he pulls the trigger. But I'm telling you, the guy puts so much effort into his job. This is a big win for NYK fans."

Also remember he is just a consultant. So while he might want to do a lot of these things Rose will have the final say.

Lets hope all this is true because like I have said, we haven't made a significant trade since Phil and have won just 2 trades (Rose) in the last 25 yrs (camby sprewell)

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Knicks adding to FO? (Knicks hire Gersson Rosas as Consultant)

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