foosballnick wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Yeah, give up on Randle! Thanks to the OP for this thread, by the way. A ray of sunshine in the gathering gloom.

Not saying Randle is an Embiid-level talent, but the Sixers had to wait 4 years for Doc to show up and get this kid to use his size and strength to consistently get to the basket. Which now has Embiid in the MVP conversation this season. If it wasn't for the comic relief of Bent Simmons, I would hate the Sixers more than I hate Flopper LeQ.

It's funny, almost everyone on this board will pee blood for developing yoots, most of whom haven't achieved sheehit in the league, but we got an almost 2020-2021 MVP candidate signed on for way less than max money and now some decreased performance (which everyone and Randle's Mom knew was forthcoming after last season) and a newly increased bad attitude has everyone going all Melo trade rape every minute of every day. I'm now waiting patiently for the "Randle forced his way here" thread to pop up.

I humbly recognize that we've all got to post something or martin's broken heart will suffer even more, but it's sure getting tiresome.

I don't mind keeping Randle and agree that his salary (currently ranked 47th in the NBA) will probably end up as in range or better when you factor in other players future contract escalation/inflation. I'm also not into all that "bad egg" hubris. Conversely, I wouldn't be upset if the Knicks moved him for a real / healthy / fairly young PG. But I'm not sure how you get better as a team without either A) drafting & developing yoots or B) trading to upgrade the talent level. I think its fair to say that the Knicks are somewhere between a 7-12 positioned team in the East Final Standings this year. Question is, if you keep the exact same roster with the exact same rotations for the remainder of the year (accounting for adding Rose back to the mix in March) - where does that leave you next year in terms of current roster improvement? When Rose comes back should Grimes get significantly less minutes because guys like Burks & EF are more proven vets? If the team keeps pace to stay in the 11-12 spot do you keep rolling Taj out there instead of seeing some of Sims? Do you keep rolling limited D Kemba out there even through rough shooting nights and not look at Deuce at all? Is Cam pretty much Knox 2.0 with zero playing time? I can respect Thibs doing everything in his power to find the mix of players to win every night. But there's also the long term to consider if this year continues with current trending.

Which brings me to my main issue with Randle - his usage. If you examine the game logs - on most nights he is getting 37-38+ minutes (in games where there is no extended garbage time) regardless of performance level. Essentially this means he is the only player on the team who is not subject to playing time adjustment - even RJ takes a seat for up to 10 minutes of reduced time in games he is "off". So the question becomes is Randle good enough to warrant the superstar treatment he is getting from he staff in terms of usage......or......would you as a fan rather see 5-10 more minutes of Obi on the floor during Randle's rough nights?
For me its the latter - but I'm looking at this from a selfish entertainment standpoint since IMO in games where shot selection and shooting percentage are off and TOs are higher with D effort lower......ISO ball is just not enjoyable.

I don't think its selfish at all. I think its legit to question Thibs lack of accountability when it comes to Randle, especially when we see Thibs hold everyone else accountable for similar defensive lapses and sloppy turnovers that lead to easy baskets by the opposition. We've seen Evan and RJ get benched for 4th quarters...We've seen Burks get pulled early, IQ, Obi, Rose...We've seen Kemba get pulled from the rotation. Randle only gets benched when the entire starting 5 gets benched. He's never singled out like everyone else and if we see it, there is no doubt there is no doubt Randle's teammates see it....

jrodmc wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Yeah, give up on Randle! Thanks to the OP for this thread, by the way. A ray of sunshine in the gathering gloom.

Not saying Randle is an Embiid-level talent, but the Sixers had to wait 4 years for Doc to show up and get this kid to use his size and strength to consistently get to the basket. Which now has Embiid in the MVP conversation this season. If it wasn't for the comic relief of Bent Simmons, I would hate the Sixers more than I hate Flopper LeQ.

It's funny, almost everyone on this board will pee blood for developing yoots, most of whom haven't achieved sheehit in the league, but we got an almost 2020-2021 MVP candidate signed on for way less than max money and now some decreased performance (which everyone and Randle's Mom knew was forthcoming after last season) and a newly increased bad attitude has everyone going all Melo trade rape every minute of every day. I'm now waiting patiently for the "Randle forced his way here" thread to pop up.

I humbly recognize that we've all got to post something or martin's broken heart will suffer even more, but it's sure getting tiresome.

Yeah the youth obsession is real. Toppin is the new Frank around here. He hasn’t shown the ability to shoot, rebound, defend, score in the post, exploit mismatches, or score in the midrange, yet everyone wants to move Randle to give him the keys. Randle struggles mainly because the paint is clogged so he can’t attack without meeting a double team, and we have no PG (with drose hurt) that can break down a defense and force the defense to react and shift. Randle shooting lights out was the savior, but clearly he’s not able to replicate that. Doesn’t mean it’s all his fault.

Toppin isn't meant to compare to Randle statistically as it's a no contest at this time... but one player is constantly moving, promotes ball movement, has a much higher PER and stays in team huddles even after he is pulled after 1 blooper/5 minutes. The other is slightly overpaid, slow as molasses, moody/hypersensitive and has an entire offense built around him. Yet his defenders/lovers are still making posts about how "if we only had a stretch 5, if only the SG and SF could shoot better so he we would have more space to operate, if we only had a PG that was like Elf Payton but could shoot, etc"

Yes indeedy. Randle's been overpaid, moody and slow as molasses for 1/2 a season so far. But statistically he's better than Obi. Not that that matters, apparently.

And who else right now on this team should have the offense built around them? Seriously just asking. RJ's shooting has regressed this season as well, but nobody's giving up on RJ. Oh that's right, RJ's not slightly overpaid, slow, and moody. Good thing Randle's not wearing hats during post games.

It really doesn't matter (statistically) because it's not baseball where you are swapping out hitters based upon batting averages. Basketball being a team sport suggests how players complement each other is equally important. There is no debate that Randle produces more than Toppin - probably will never be a comparison. But is what Randle brings/produces worth the negatives he concurrently brings? Does he makes anyone else on the floor better? Does his ball holding/iso-style help the offensive flow? Does his lackluster effort and emotional reactions help? Notice I haven't even mentioned his regression in shooting/performance this year? Even last year when he was statistically shooting exceptionally - he didn't do any of these things aside from individually shooting so well. The goal in moving Randle is not that replacing Randle by starting Toppin would make things automatically better. I've stated many times that we would like regress initially. But you can't deny that we are last in pace and Randle is the focal point of this (being that he brings the ball up court and has offense run through him). We also have a bench and the majority of remaining teammates that plays at a different pace and likes to move the ball.

There is nobody currently that the entire offense should be run through - you only do that with a top level player. The faster you recognize that Randle isn't this type/caliber of player - it doesn't matter if there is not a replacement player to run the same offense through. Replacement of not - it won't work so you move on and try something different. And I agree that RJ has also regressed overall this season. The reason most don't want to give up on RJ is he's only 21, has shown improvement (last year), exhibits maturity at a young age, displays more consistent effort defensively, etc..

Randle is 27 and is what he is - a very good player that should be a 3rd option on a team like Denver (where he would be appreciated in that role). As we need a lot more talent - it's time to use our best trade asset/value to change paths and try to upgrade our talent level. That could be by acquiring another 1st rounder, a similarly producing player (eg Jerami Grant) or packaging with other players/picks to improve.

Rookie wrote:lol Bane called Randle a middle schooler. Said walking into their huddle was bs kids do in high school. Randle is really building up the resume this season.

that was some crazy stuff. frankly i didn't really mind it. Sort of like, hey you guys are tough right? Mind if i sit here in your huddle and see what you'll do about it. Oh yeah, you'll give me the tough guy smirk

i can only hope that Randle (aka Jekyl and Hyde) lights a fire and gets out of his dark funk

Chandler wrote:

Rookie wrote:lol Bane called Randle a middle schooler. Said walking into their huddle was bs kids do in high school. Randle is really building up the resume this season.

that was some crazy stuff. frankly i didn't really mind it. Sort of like, hey you guys are tough right? Mind if i sit here in your huddle and see what you'll do about it. Oh yeah, you'll give me the tough guy smirk

i can only hope that Randle (aka Jekyl and Hyde) lights a fire and gets out of his dark funk

Since you put it that way, I can get behind this.

Somewhere along the line, he decided he is a 3pt specialist. He stopped putting pressure on the defense and the result is the worst eFG since he turned 21.

The right Julius Randle is still in there somewhere, but maybe he realizes he is more like the 30% 3pt shooter that he actually is and less like the 41% shooter that he is in an empty gym. Take those threes when they are given to him, but stop thinking that 3 comes off the dribble. His footwork is off on 3s anyway.

I’d prefer to see him get to the line 6 times than jack 6 threes a game. His eFG will improve as will his confidence. He’s still got the all star. Just needs to re-calibrate his game.

EwingsGlass wrote:So, here’s the thing. Randle has a career year last year and earned a contract. He did it by increasing his 3pt percentage to 41%. 24pts. 8 rebs. 6 assists. 41% from 3. 80% from the line. He crushed it. Nothing makes me believe he is any different player. Only problem is that he is shooting 30% from 3. And getting to the line less.

Somewhere along the line, he decided he is a 3pt specialist. He stopped putting pressure on the defense and the result is the worst eFG since he turned 21.

The right Julius Randle is still in there somewhere, but maybe he realizes he is more like the 30% 3pt shooter that he actually is and less like the 41% shooter that he is in an empty gym. Take those threes when they are given to him, but stop thinking that 3 comes off the dribble. His footwork is off on 3s anyway.

I’d prefer to see him get to the line 6 times than jack 6 threes a game. His eFG will improve as will his confidence. He’s still got the all star. Just needs to re-calibrate his game.

A lot of guys shot way better last year. I don’t think they suddenly got that much better as shooters so much as they were taking better shots and avoiding bad ones. Ie julius always shot 40% for the types of shots he hit last year

They were moving the ball more and getting better looks and shooting with confidence because their feet were set and they had sufficiently open looks.

This year the ball is stickier and they’re all playing tight as a drum as the losses mount

And I wouldn’t under estimate the loss of Theo pinson keeping things light

foosballnick wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Yeah, give up on Randle! Thanks to the OP for this thread, by the way. A ray of sunshine in the gathering gloom.

Not saying Randle is an Embiid-level talent, but the Sixers had to wait 4 years for Doc to show up and get this kid to use his size and strength to consistently get to the basket. Which now has Embiid in the MVP conversation this season. If it wasn't for the comic relief of Bent Simmons, I would hate the Sixers more than I hate Flopper LeQ.

It's funny, almost everyone on this board will pee blood for developing yoots, most of whom haven't achieved sheehit in the league, but we got an almost 2020-2021 MVP candidate signed on for way less than max money and now some decreased performance (which everyone and Randle's Mom knew was forthcoming after last season) and a newly increased bad attitude has everyone going all Melo trade rape every minute of every day. I'm now waiting patiently for the "Randle forced his way here" thread to pop up.

I humbly recognize that we've all got to post something or martin's broken heart will suffer even more, but it's sure getting tiresome.

I don't mind keeping Randle and agree that his salary (currently ranked 47th in the NBA) will probably end up as in range or better when you factor in other players future contract escalation/inflation. I'm also not into all that "bad egg" hubris. Conversely, I wouldn't be upset if the Knicks moved him for a real / healthy / fairly young PG. But I'm not sure how you get better as a team without either A) drafting & developing yoots or B) trading to upgrade the talent level. I think its fair to say that the Knicks are somewhere between a 7-12 positioned team in the East Final Standings this year. Question is, if you keep the exact same roster with the exact same rotations for the remainder of the year (accounting for adding Rose back to the mix in March) - where does that leave you next year in terms of current roster improvement? When Rose comes back should Grimes get significantly less minutes because guys like Burks & EF are more proven vets? If the team keeps pace to stay in the 11-12 spot do you keep rolling Taj out there instead of seeing some of Sims? Do you keep rolling limited D Kemba out there even through rough shooting nights and not look at Deuce at all? Is Cam pretty much Knox 2.0 with zero playing time? I can respect Thibs doing everything in his power to find the mix of players to win every night. But there's also the long term to consider if this year continues with current trending.

Which brings me to my main issue with Randle - his usage. If you examine the game logs - on most nights he is getting 37-38+ minutes (in games where there is no extended garbage time) regardless of performance level. Essentially this means he is the only player on the team who is not subject to playing time adjustment - even RJ takes a seat for up to 10 minutes of reduced time in games he is "off". So the question becomes is Randle good enough to warrant the superstar treatment he is getting from he staff in terms of usage......or......would you as a fan rather see 5-10 more minutes of Obi on the floor during Randle's rough nights?
For me its the latter - but I'm looking at this from a selfish entertainment standpoint since IMO in games where shot selection and shooting percentage are off and TOs are higher with D effort lower......ISO ball is just not enjoyable.

Hey I love the statement dunks and occasional highlight moves from Obi as much as the next guy, but until he or anyone else does everything that only Randle's doing the way he's doing it (rebounding, assists, scoring) it is just fan preference, not NBA head coach decision-making. RJ's up and coming, but Randle's the only star-level player Thibs has to work with right now. And it's a star's league, last time I looked at the standings.

It wasn't that long ago on this board that Obi was the sideways-immobile orange traffic cone/ski rack/runs like Shaggy from Scooby-Doo.

I think that's the difference in our views. While Randle was able to ascend to that higher star level last year - he has reverted closer to his career norms this year. He's the Knicks' best player - but I don't see him at a star level deserving of minutes deference regardless of mistakes, effort or performance. He probably should be averaging somewhere around 32 mpg.

Robinson is the Knicks best player

Tho I think Randle is about to have a good road trip

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Yeah, give up on Randle! Thanks to the OP for this thread, by the way. A ray of sunshine in the gathering gloom.

Not saying Randle is an Embiid-level talent, but the Sixers had to wait 4 years for Doc to show up and get this kid to use his size and strength to consistently get to the basket. Which now has Embiid in the MVP conversation this season. If it wasn't for the comic relief of Bent Simmons, I would hate the Sixers more than I hate Flopper LeQ.

It's funny, almost everyone on this board will pee blood for developing yoots, most of whom haven't achieved sheehit in the league, but we got an almost 2020-2021 MVP candidate signed on for way less than max money and now some decreased performance (which everyone and Randle's Mom knew was forthcoming after last season) and a newly increased bad attitude has everyone going all Melo trade rape every minute of every day. I'm now waiting patiently for the "Randle forced his way here" thread to pop up.

I humbly recognize that we've all got to post something or martin's broken heart will suffer even more, but it's sure getting tiresome.

I don't mind keeping Randle and agree that his salary (currently ranked 47th in the NBA) will probably end up as in range or better when you factor in other players future contract escalation/inflation. I'm also not into all that "bad egg" hubris. Conversely, I wouldn't be upset if the Knicks moved him for a real / healthy / fairly young PG. But I'm not sure how you get better as a team without either A) drafting & developing yoots or B) trading to upgrade the talent level. I think its fair to say that the Knicks are somewhere between a 7-12 positioned team in the East Final Standings this year. Question is, if you keep the exact same roster with the exact same rotations for the remainder of the year (accounting for adding Rose back to the mix in March) - where does that leave you next year in terms of current roster improvement? When Rose comes back should Grimes get significantly less minutes because guys like Burks & EF are more proven vets? If the team keeps pace to stay in the 11-12 spot do you keep rolling Taj out there instead of seeing some of Sims? Do you keep rolling limited D Kemba out there even through rough shooting nights and not look at Deuce at all? Is Cam pretty much Knox 2.0 with zero playing time? I can respect Thibs doing everything in his power to find the mix of players to win every night. But there's also the long term to consider if this year continues with current trending.

Which brings me to my main issue with Randle - his usage. If you examine the game logs - on most nights he is getting 37-38+ minutes (in games where there is no extended garbage time) regardless of performance level. Essentially this means he is the only player on the team who is not subject to playing time adjustment - even RJ takes a seat for up to 10 minutes of reduced time in games he is "off". So the question becomes is Randle good enough to warrant the superstar treatment he is getting from he staff in terms of usage......or......would you as a fan rather see 5-10 more minutes of Obi on the floor during Randle's rough nights?
For me its the latter - but I'm looking at this from a selfish entertainment standpoint since IMO in games where shot selection and shooting percentage are off and TOs are higher with D effort lower......ISO ball is just not enjoyable.

Hey I love the statement dunks and occasional highlight moves from Obi as much as the next guy, but until he or anyone else does everything that only Randle's doing the way he's doing it (rebounding, assists, scoring) it is just fan preference, not NBA head coach decision-making. RJ's up and coming, but Randle's the only star-level player Thibs has to work with right now. And it's a star's league, last time I looked at the standings.

It wasn't that long ago on this board that Obi was the sideways-immobile orange traffic cone/ski rack/runs like Shaggy from Scooby-Doo.

I think that's the difference in our views. While Randle was able to ascend to that higher star level last year - he has reverted closer to his career norms this year. He's the Knicks' best player - but I don't see him at a star level deserving of minutes deference regardless of mistakes, effort or performance. He probably should be averaging somewhere around 32 mpg.

Robinson is the Knicks best player

Tho I think Randle is about to have a good road trip

Mitch is not the Knicks best player. While he is excellent on D and on the boards his offense is still pretty limited.

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Yeah, give up on Randle! Thanks to the OP for this thread, by the way. A ray of sunshine in the gathering gloom.

Not saying Randle is an Embiid-level talent, but the Sixers had to wait 4 years for Doc to show up and get this kid to use his size and strength to consistently get to the basket. Which now has Embiid in the MVP conversation this season. If it wasn't for the comic relief of Bent Simmons, I would hate the Sixers more than I hate Flopper LeQ.

It's funny, almost everyone on this board will pee blood for developing yoots, most of whom haven't achieved sheehit in the league, but we got an almost 2020-2021 MVP candidate signed on for way less than max money and now some decreased performance (which everyone and Randle's Mom knew was forthcoming after last season) and a newly increased bad attitude has everyone going all Melo trade rape every minute of every day. I'm now waiting patiently for the "Randle forced his way here" thread to pop up.

I humbly recognize that we've all got to post something or martin's broken heart will suffer even more, but it's sure getting tiresome.

I don't mind keeping Randle and agree that his salary (currently ranked 47th in the NBA) will probably end up as in range or better when you factor in other players future contract escalation/inflation. I'm also not into all that "bad egg" hubris. Conversely, I wouldn't be upset if the Knicks moved him for a real / healthy / fairly young PG. But I'm not sure how you get better as a team without either A) drafting & developing yoots or B) trading to upgrade the talent level. I think its fair to say that the Knicks are somewhere between a 7-12 positioned team in the East Final Standings this year. Question is, if you keep the exact same roster with the exact same rotations for the remainder of the year (accounting for adding Rose back to the mix in March) - where does that leave you next year in terms of current roster improvement? When Rose comes back should Grimes get significantly less minutes because guys like Burks & EF are more proven vets? If the team keeps pace to stay in the 11-12 spot do you keep rolling Taj out there instead of seeing some of Sims? Do you keep rolling limited D Kemba out there even through rough shooting nights and not look at Deuce at all? Is Cam pretty much Knox 2.0 with zero playing time? I can respect Thibs doing everything in his power to find the mix of players to win every night. But there's also the long term to consider if this year continues with current trending.

Which brings me to my main issue with Randle - his usage. If you examine the game logs - on most nights he is getting 37-38+ minutes (in games where there is no extended garbage time) regardless of performance level. Essentially this means he is the only player on the team who is not subject to playing time adjustment - even RJ takes a seat for up to 10 minutes of reduced time in games he is "off". So the question becomes is Randle good enough to warrant the superstar treatment he is getting from he staff in terms of usage......or......would you as a fan rather see 5-10 more minutes of Obi on the floor during Randle's rough nights?
For me its the latter - but I'm looking at this from a selfish entertainment standpoint since IMO in games where shot selection and shooting percentage are off and TOs are higher with D effort lower......ISO ball is just not enjoyable.

Hey I love the statement dunks and occasional highlight moves from Obi as much as the next guy, but until he or anyone else does everything that only Randle's doing the way he's doing it (rebounding, assists, scoring) it is just fan preference, not NBA head coach decision-making. RJ's up and coming, but Randle's the only star-level player Thibs has to work with right now. And it's a star's league, last time I looked at the standings.

It wasn't that long ago on this board that Obi was the sideways-immobile orange traffic cone/ski rack/runs like Shaggy from Scooby-Doo.

I think that's the difference in our views. While Randle was able to ascend to that higher star level last year - he has reverted closer to his career norms this year. He's the Knicks' best player - but I don't see him at a star level deserving of minutes deference regardless of mistakes, effort or performance. He probably should be averaging somewhere around 32 mpg.

Robinson is the Knicks best player

Tho I think Randle is about to have a good road trip

Excellent analysis. I heard from a little bird once that Mitch ran a suicide in less than 5 minutes in practice this season.

knicks1248 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Yeah, give up on Randle! Thanks to the OP for this thread, by the way. A ray of sunshine in the gathering gloom.

Not saying Randle is an Embiid-level talent, but the Sixers had to wait 4 years for Doc to show up and get this kid to use his size and strength to consistently get to the basket. Which now has Embiid in the MVP conversation this season. If it wasn't for the comic relief of Bent Simmons, I would hate the Sixers more than I hate Flopper LeQ.

It's funny, almost everyone on this board will pee blood for developing yoots, most of whom haven't achieved sheehit in the league, but we got an almost 2020-2021 MVP candidate signed on for way less than max money and now some decreased performance (which everyone and Randle's Mom knew was forthcoming after last season) and a newly increased bad attitude has everyone going all Melo trade rape every minute of every day. I'm now waiting patiently for the "Randle forced his way here" thread to pop up.

I humbly recognize that we've all got to post something or martin's broken heart will suffer even more, but it's sure getting tiresome.

I don't mind keeping Randle and agree that his salary (currently ranked 47th in the NBA) will probably end up as in range or better when you factor in other players future contract escalation/inflation. I'm also not into all that "bad egg" hubris. Conversely, I wouldn't be upset if the Knicks moved him for a real / healthy / fairly young PG. But I'm not sure how you get better as a team without either A) drafting & developing yoots or B) trading to upgrade the talent level. I think its fair to say that the Knicks are somewhere between a 7-12 positioned team in the East Final Standings this year. Question is, if you keep the exact same roster with the exact same rotations for the remainder of the year (accounting for adding Rose back to the mix in March) - where does that leave you next year in terms of current roster improvement? When Rose comes back should Grimes get significantly less minutes because guys like Burks & EF are more proven vets? If the team keeps pace to stay in the 11-12 spot do you keep rolling Taj out there instead of seeing some of Sims? Do you keep rolling limited D Kemba out there even through rough shooting nights and not look at Deuce at all? Is Cam pretty much Knox 2.0 with zero playing time? I can respect Thibs doing everything in his power to find the mix of players to win every night. But there's also the long term to consider if this year continues with current trending.

Which brings me to my main issue with Randle - his usage. If you examine the game logs - on most nights he is getting 37-38+ minutes (in games where there is no extended garbage time) regardless of performance level. Essentially this means he is the only player on the team who is not subject to playing time adjustment - even RJ takes a seat for up to 10 minutes of reduced time in games he is "off". So the question becomes is Randle good enough to warrant the superstar treatment he is getting from he staff in terms of usage......or......would you as a fan rather see 5-10 more minutes of Obi on the floor during Randle's rough nights?
For me its the latter - but I'm looking at this from a selfish entertainment standpoint since IMO in games where shot selection and shooting percentage are off and TOs are higher with D effort lower......ISO ball is just not enjoyable.

Hey I love the statement dunks and occasional highlight moves from Obi as much as the next guy, but until he or anyone else does everything that only Randle's doing the way he's doing it (rebounding, assists, scoring) it is just fan preference, not NBA head coach decision-making. RJ's up and coming, but Randle's the only star-level player Thibs has to work with right now. And it's a star's league, last time I looked at the standings.

It wasn't that long ago on this board that Obi was the sideways-immobile orange traffic cone/ski rack/runs like Shaggy from Scooby-Doo.

I think that's the difference in our views. While Randle was able to ascend to that higher star level last year - he has reverted closer to his career norms this year. He's the Knicks' best player - but I don't see him at a star level deserving of minutes deference regardless of mistakes, effort or performance. He probably should be averaging somewhere around 32 mpg.

Robinson is the Knicks best player

Tho I think Randle is about to have a good road trip

Excellent analysis. I heard from a little bird once that Mitch ran a suicide in less than 5 minutes in practice this season.

I don't even think Mitch is the best player on the knicks G league squad

Pretty sure we know what your opinion on Mitch is worth.