Philc1 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:He's still here...

I think he's staying- back when he fell off a cliff, I hoped it was because we had a move lined up and he'd found out about it. All the insider info/bball writers this week have basically said there is no deal lined up, merely we're exploring/open to the idea, but say it's more likely he stays.

Nobody wants Randle’s contract. We might be able to stretch provision it and ultimately we might be forced to

what the dumb is this

smackeddog wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:He's still here...

I think he's staying- back when he fell off a cliff, I hoped it was because we had a move lined up and he'd found out about it. All the insider info/bball writers this week have basically said there is no deal lined up, merely we're exploring/open to the idea, but say it's more likely he stays.

The next seven days will be a reincarnation of the film "Thirteen Days"

TheGame wrote:The Knicks will explore but ultimately will not trade Randle. They will try to trade Walker but will likely end up cutting him. Burks is the only asset that will likely move. The Knicks will try to get a 1st round pick but they will likely settle for a high second round pick. That move along with cutting Walker will allow some time for Reddish. The only other move might be Mitch but I think they will keep Mitch and try to resign him.!

No need to even cut Kemba, just sit him like they did before.

jskinny35 wrote:Any value in dealing Burks and Kemba for Dragic? He'd be a stopgap but at least we'd have a PG that understands ball movement and could offer some short-term guard play while Rose recovers. He expires at the end of the season so we'd free up money sooner and could allow minutes for Cam, Fournier to assume Burks role, etc...

I thought I had heard and read here on UK that Dragic was angling for a buy out to join Dallas on the cheap.

No apparently Toronto is offering a first with him in scenarios. Why? I would expect a team would trade a first and a player for that kind of cap relief, no?

Personally I would love to acquire him - I don't think he is old like Kemba but maybe he is.

foosballnick wrote:

martin wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:He's still here...

I think he's staying- back when he fell off a cliff, I hoped it was because we had a move lined up and he'd found out about it. All the insider info/bball writers this week have basically said there is no deal lined up, merely we're exploring/open to the idea, but say it's more likely he stays.

Nobody wants Randle’s contract. We might be able to stretch provision it and ultimately we might be forced to

what the dumb is this

In the other thread he ruined his good summary statement with that gem as well. Whoever said NY fans were the most knowledgeable in sports deserves a black eye.

Oh right I forgot teams are lining up to trade for Randle and his 4 year $100+ million quagmire contract that starts next year

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

martin wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:He's still here...

I think he's staying- back when he fell off a cliff, I hoped it was because we had a move lined up and he'd found out about it. All the insider info/bball writers this week have basically said there is no deal lined up, merely we're exploring/open to the idea, but say it's more likely he stays.

Nobody wants Randle’s contract. We might be able to stretch provision it and ultimately we might be forced to

what the dumb is this

In the other thread he ruined his good summary statement with that gem as well. Whoever said NY fans were the most knowledgeable in sports deserves a black eye.

Oh right I forgot teams are lining up to trade for Randle and his 4 year $100+ million quagmire contract that starts next year

A lot of obsession about Randle......he's in your head (perhaps not quite as much as Mentality is in your head from whatever Jets board you frequent).

Just curious how you would know if there is interest or is not interest in Randle from other teams. Do you have a direct line to Leon and all the other NBA Front Offices? Waiving a player or stretching a player is generally done when a team has no more use for that player. Not sure how you are making the case that the Knicks have no use for Randle when he is currently playing 35+ mpg. While his performance has dropped and even if the value of his contract is high when compared - why would the Knicks even think of waiving/stretching a player they are playing 35+ minutes a game?

Further - why would the Knicks eat Randle's salary at all? Worst case scenario - if they had to move him, why not just wait for another team to have an injury/gap or add incentives to a trade deal (i.e. draft pick or take on another team's salary dump)? He certainly has use and he's always available to play / not injury prone.

I'm hoping you've at least done your research to understand how the stretch works. If the Knicks stretched Randle sometime before September 1 2022 - he would remain on their books for 9 more years though the 2030-31 season @ $13M per season cap hit / dead cap space. Since obviously this is never going to happen I guess if the Knicks don't manage to trade him, you'll just have to live with all that pent up Randle anger inside of you.

Perhaps Briggs don’t care about money but don’t one cannot come up and be taken seriously if you don’t factor that in to any conversation. Brock Aller sole existence is to care about money and the sequence that matters to roster construction.
It matters. perhaps some fans can’t be bothered by such inconvenience but there a reality.

And if you look at the multiplier of taxes and how that works its not just about an owner willing to pony up, its damn near ignorant to not factor it in.

gradyandrew wrote:He will be something like the 40th highest paid guy in the league and his contract is for the years when player's value usually peaks (mid to late 20's). It might not be the best but it's certainly a long way away from stretch territory.

This contract for last year Randle is a bargain. The contract for this year Randle is closer to a Wiggins contract. You always have a guy knocking on that All-Star door. I think Randle earns out on this contract for us or anyone else though. The stretch idea is ludicrous.

Jimbo5 wrote:If the knicks can somehow get Fox for Randle, can the FO make another move and swing for the fence and get Myles Turner and give up Obi, Evan this year's 1st round and the Dallas 1st round.

Mitch
Turner
RJ
Grimes
Fox

Noel
Taj/Semanic
Cam
IQ
Rose

Turner is solid but injured and not sure how he would fit next to Mitch. I suggested J. Collins if we landed Fox because they are both running/uptempo players and I think we need to pick up the pace.