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i would offer this to the Bulls for Curry[a very fair deal]
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djsunyc
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11/12/2004  9:31 AM
i don't know how the $$'s work out but if the deal was thomas for curry, you HAVE to do this deal.

thomas is a very underrated player. he's very good. but if we're truly rebuilding on the fly, then this is a deal you have to make - davis for oneal but at a much lower scale.

this is a no-brainer to me.

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11/12/2004  10:28 AM
if they want kurt and nazr--TAKE them! well take back curry davis and will have to throw in moochie +3mm to make it work

heck we almost god rid of KT for malik rose, its a thing whther or not you think you are winning a chmapionship this year--and we are NOT. Curry represents much more HOPe than these players.

if you look at some past games 30 points 14 reb 31 pts 12 reb 24 pts 15 reb etc.. he has shown he can do it, and this was at 19-20. You have to go the extra mile here. i have no fckn clue why we paid robinson--heck we didnt even try to save money by offering the vets minimum--we actually paid the entire freight! why i dont know but if somehow we can spare sweetney, i wouldnt have to think twice
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11/12/2004  10:33 AM
time will tell how this plays out... one thing you know is its never how its reported in the rumor mill.

It would be nice if we could get a player like this without having to overpay for once.
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11/12/2004  10:34 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

if they want kurt and nazr--TAKE them! well take back curry davis and will have to throw in moochie +3mm to make it work

heck we almost god rid of KT for malik rose, its a thing whther or not you think you are winning a chmapionship this year--and we are NOT. Curry represents much more HOPe than these players.

if you look at some past games 30 points 14 reb 31 pts 12 reb 24 pts 15 reb etc.. he has shown he can do it, and this was at 19-20. You have to go the extra mile here. i have no fckn clue why we paid robinson--heck we didnt even try to save money by offering the vets minimum--we actually paid the entire freight! why i dont know but if somehow we can spare sweetney, i wouldnt have to think twice


My reservations about Curry aside,if this deal can be done with KT and not Sweets I wouldnt have a problem with that.KT doesnt have that many good years left in him and we would be getting alot younger in this case.





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11/12/2004  10:45 AM

I do this in a heartbeat........

New York trades: SF Tim Thomas (6.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.7 apg in 24.3 minutes)
C Kurt Thomas (9.3 ppg, 11.7 rpg, 2.0 apg in 34.7 minutes)
New York receives: PF Antonio Davis (6.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 13.0 minutes)
C Eddy Curry (3.0 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 17.0 minutes)
Frank Williams (No games yet played in 2004/05)
Change in team outlook: -7.0 ppg, -4.7 rpg, and -2.7 apg.

Chicago trades: PF Antonio Davis (6.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 13.0 minutes)
C Eddy Curry (3.0 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 17.0 minutes)
Frank Williams (No games yet played in 2004/05)
Chicago receives: SF Tim Thomas (6.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.7 apg in 24.3 minutes)
C Kurt Thomas (9.3 ppg, 11.7 rpg, 2.0 apg in 34.7 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +7.0 ppg, +4.7 rpg, and +2.7 apg.

Nazr would make a decent backup center....JYD can be energy off the bench at PF or SF and AD can be the true leader and warrior we lacked for a long time.

Curry/Nazr/Baker
Sweetney/Davis/Baker
Ariza/JYD/ERob
Crawford/Penny/ERob
Marbury/Penny/Frankie


The Bulls can play Chandler at center, which he is best suited for and KT at PF....his pick and roll should be great for ChiTown...


Notice that Curry only plays 17 minutes and averages 3 and 6......KY plays 34 and averages about 10 and 12...If Curry got 34 minutes, he can average a hell of a lot more than he is getting....Numbers of 9 and 11 are no that much of a dropoff...Chi is also running a hell of alot of plays through Kirk, Gordon, Deng trying to develop them, I don't think Chi developed and groomed Curry very well at all.....Davis only plays 13 mins per and averages 6 and 3...give davis 20 mins er as Sweets backup and he gets maybe 8 and 6.....that really offsets the rebounding we may lose from KT and Thomas since Thomas doesn't rebound.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 11/12/2004 10:47:25]
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11/12/2004  11:05 AM
We must give this kid a chance to grow. Sundov is young and can still learn the game, put Vinny in IL for a couple of days and experiment with Sundov. When he is in the game, Lenny has to show some patience and allow him to get confortable out there.



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11/12/2004  11:26 AM
http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/injury_report.html

Updated: November 11, 2004 (3:20 p.m. CST)

C Eddy Curry
* Suffered a right knee sprain during Thursday's practice, forcing him to leave early to be evaluated by a team doctor
* An update on his playing status will be available following Friday's practice at the Berto Center

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Perhaps a trade is about to happen???
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11/12/2004  11:47 AM
looking at Eddie Curry's stats- couple things leap out

most rebounds he ever grabbed in career is 15

and last year he average 6.2 boards per game in 29 mins per game-

that kind of seems anemic

hasn't he had back problems?
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11/12/2004  11:50 AM
Chandler is the one with back problem
Posted by franco12:

looking at Eddie Curry's stats- couple things leap out

most rebounds he ever grabbed in career is 15

and last year he average 6.2 boards per game in 29 mins per game-

that kind of seems anemic

hasn't he had back problems?
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11/12/2004  11:52 AM
no thats Tyson Chandler. EC has had some weight problems, but showed up 30 pounds lighter this year (contract year). One thing w/ EC is he has gotten better every year and is a gifted offensive player in the post. I would be hard to turn up a chance on a prospect with his upside. He's awfull defensively which is a little scary considering the current make up of this team, but he certainly represents a potential big piece to the puzzle
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11/12/2004  4:42 PM
so basically curry would be a combo of Sweets & Nazr- good offensive player lost defensively with not a lot of rebounds- a bigger player with moves down low- a little like what sweets has shown

I suppose there is not much better out there that is available as far as the Center position.

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11/13/2004  4:12 AM
Isiah tells Chicago
to cut the Sweet talk


BY FRANK ISOLA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

The Knicks' interest in Chicago Bulls center Eddy Curry is legitimate, but Isiah Thomas has let it be known that he will not part with Michael Sweetney.

Thomas offered Nazr Mohammed on Thursday but Chicago GM John Paxson, who has fielded multiple proposals in the past two days, turned the offer down. Thomas could be talked into trading Kurt Thomas, but it's unlikely the ever-rebuilding Bulls would swap a 21-year-old center for a 32-year-old power forward.

Chicago is committed to trading Curry - the Bulls elected not to offer him a contract extension prior to the Oct.31 deadline - but is in no rush to make a move, especially since Curry's value appears to be at an all-time low.

According to a report in the Chicago Tribune, Denver, Phoenix, Minnesota, Memphis, the Lakers and the Knicks all contacted Paxson. The Nuggets offered Nikoloz Tskitishvili, Minnesota talked about dealing Michael Olowokandi and Wally Szczerbiak and Phoenix was willing to give the Bulls Bo Outlaw.

Paxson knows he can do better and with three months remaining before the trading deadline, Chicago can continue to exercise patience.

Thomas, the Knicks' president, has said that no one on his roster is untouchable, although he's made it clear on several occasions that he wouldn't trade Stephon Marbury. Sweetney is also a favorite of Thomas' as well as the coaching staff's, which is saying something since Sweetney was drafted by former Knicks president Scott Layden. Sweetney and Kurt Thomas are the only Knicks remaining on the roster from the Layden regime.

Coincidentally, Layden's former right-hand man in New York, Jay Hillock, is now the Bulls' director of player personnel. Paxson leaned on Hillock last summer when the Knicks and Bulls orchestrated a six-player deal that resulted in Jamal Crawford landing in New York's backcourt.

Hillock, Layden, Jeff Nix and former Knicks scout Jim Sann all played major roles in drafting Sweetney. Not everyone in the organization is convinced that Sweetney will be a 10-year starter in the league. But unlike Curry, no one has ever questioned Sweetney's work ethic and character. The scouts like to say that Curry is all about potential while Sweetney is all about production.

"Eddy wants to get better," said Clippers guard Rick Brunson, who played with Curry in Chicago. "I think he just has to get away from his hometown, grow up a little bit and then he will change as player. He has the chance to be a superstar."



NO DEAL: The Knicks passed on signing Eddie Robinson after the free agent failed his physical yesterday. Robinson has an injury to his left foot that will require surgery. The Knicks only have 11 available players but are expected to activate C Bruno Sundov from the injured list on Tuesday.

Former Knick Shandon Anderson is expected to sign with either Chicago or Miami.

Originally published on November 13, 2004

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11/13/2004  10:55 AM
Posted by franco12:

looking at Eddie Curry's stats- couple things leap out

most rebounds he ever grabbed in career is 15

and last year he average 6.2 boards per game in 29 mins per game-

that kind of seems anemic

hasn't he had back problems?

No, eddie is the fat one.
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11/13/2004  10:25 PM
Phoenix was willing to give the Bulls Bo Outlaw.

that's so bad it sounds like it was posted on the RealGM boards.
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11/14/2004  10:18 AM
THIS IS A NO-BRAINER.

Hear this Isiah:

Trade KT for Curry.

Trade TT and Houston for Artest.

Do not trade Marbury, Crawford, Sweet or Ariza.

Think of the possibilities.
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11/14/2004  10:24 AM
Trade TT and Houston for Artest.

Um...yeah. The thing is here, Indiana would have to include like another $28 mil in contracts to make the numbers work.
And plus, TT's trade value is lower than Artests', and Houston is being played 20 mil to sit out right now.

[Edited by - MaTT4281 on 11/14/2004 10:26:02]
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11/14/2004  10:43 AM
Posted by rrini:

THIS IS A NO-BRAINER.

Hear this Isiah:

Trade KT for Curry.

Trade TT and Houston for Artest.

Do not trade Marbury, Crawford, Sweet or Ariza.

Think of the possibilities.
Don't you know anything about the league salary matching rules for making trades?
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11/14/2004  11:08 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by rrini:

THIS IS A NO-BRAINER.

Hear this Isiah:

Trade KT for Curry.

Trade TT and Houston for Artest.

Do not trade Marbury, Crawford, Sweet or Ariza.

Think of the possibilities.
Don't you know anything about the league salary matching rules for making trades?

LMAO!!
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11/14/2004  11:11 AM
I'm thinking he'd like to take back the term "No-Brainer".
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11/14/2004  11:17 AM
i think we are missing a grand opportunity. no i dont like the aspect of giving up mike sweetney, but really we dont have a real C. i know that curry has defeciencies, but i think that many are correctable. He ha the body and the skills to be a force. he needs to play with a mature organization a good PG with a solid foundation in place. Yes we would eventualy need a shot blocking 6-10 PF, but putting Curry in place at C is the way to go. I could be wrong, but if I am wrong im going to be wrong making the play to get a BIG man. I like Mike S, but he is not or will NEVER be what Curry can be. Hes always going to have some form of troubles against PF who are 3-5 inches taller than him. Hes a tier below what I would call a player i would not trade. CERTAINLY I would NEVER trade him for an OLD player--as in OLDER than 25-26 tops, but for Curry i would do it. We shouldve done it if we had the chance and i think in the LONg run, we will see that it was a mistake to not go in that direction.
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i would offer this to the Bulls for Curry[a very fair deal]

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