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Philc1
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8/3/2021  10:46 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:How many athletes are in the league that are still learning to shoot? I think the Knicks did a solid job with the picks. We know Grimes can shoot and play defense. We have a decent idea that McBride's shooting may translate and he will play defense. Maybe his playmaking picks up? The part of the draft the Knicks were selecting was littered with question marks. I'll maintain that as of now, the biggest mistake that's been made so far is the Knicks came in with the most cap space in the league and weren't able to bring in another PG. It could've even been Cam Payne!

An athlete who can’t shoot? Been there done that with DSJ and unfortunately I got the t-shirt
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8/3/2021  11:02 PM
200%. Talent outweighs a plan. What plan did Milwaukee have when they picked giannis? No doubt about it. In the end we could’ve had grimes Johnson and McBride. I think trading pick 19 for a future to a perennial shtty team was wrong. That was an opportunity to take a calculated risk on an Uber athlete who has very decent fundamentals.

Milwaukee was rebuilding at the time，the Knicks are trying to build a winner. Thibs has his system and it's all about guys having their roles.

I can't remember the game but Obi hit a 3 from the wing from the same spot Randle normally does and the bench got way，way too excited about it. My interpretation? Regardless of who is playing the guys have roles and if you don't have the toolkit (PFs need to be able to hit open 3's from the wing for example) you don't play. Knicks aren't looking for talent，they are looking for system guys.
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8/12/2021  11:28 AM
BRIGGS wrote:I understand that we can have a trade add free agents etc... BUT the more I personally evaluated the whole schmeal--I think we made a BRUTAL BRUTAL mistake not simply drafting Keon Johnson. I know we have rookies galore BUT imho the arent high end caliber rookies--more like role players with upside.

I didnt really look at Keon Johnson much--his name honestly was not close to where we were drafting. Sometimes players fall Giannis 15 Kobe 13 ETC>>> but we gave up the opportunity to cultivate an uber athletic wing whose fundamentals are much better than what was perceived. I think all the way down at 19--a guy like that falls for whatever reason--I think you take him. Teams become obsessed with process---they have something in place a player teyve keyed on. We keyed on Duarte Grimes and McBride. But this guy has open floor power and athletiscm that only a few players have. I think we will look back on this miss. Even Kai Jones hurts when I step back and look at the picks. We had Kai Jones and Keon Johnson? We took the path of role players instead of high end upside. Not going to get this opportunity much.

It's still early. Kia and Keon not doing as well though.

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8/12/2021  11:38 AM
^^^ yes, it's early but if there's anything "BRUTAL, BRUTAL" it's Keon's stat line
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8/12/2021  7:34 PM
I think passing on Jalen Johnson was a huge mistake. Seeing him land in Atlanta made it a little more painful
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8/12/2021  8:21 PM
Jmpasq wrote:I think passing on Jalen Johnson was a huge mistake. Seeing him land in Atlanta made it a little more painful

I doubt Jalen gets more than 8 minutes a game with Atlanta. Give 2-3 years before you sink into depression.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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8/12/2021  10:10 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:I think passing on Jalen Johnson was a huge mistake. Seeing him land in Atlanta made it a little more painful

I doubt Jalen gets more than 8 minutes a game with Atlanta. Give 2-3 years before you sink into depression.

right on daddy u dont think we did our homework and gave a competent coach who he wants to run his system??
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8/12/2021  10:13 PM
Marv wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:I think passing on Jalen Johnson was a huge mistake. Seeing him land in Atlanta made it a little more painful

I doubt Jalen gets more than 8 minutes a game with Atlanta. Give 2-3 years before you sink into depression.

right on daddy u dont think we did our homework and gave a competent coach who he wants to run his system??

or dis no one notice he took us from 21-45 to 41-31
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8/12/2021  11:18 PM
Marv wrote:
Marv wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:I think passing on Jalen Johnson was a huge mistake. Seeing him land in Atlanta made it a little more painful

I doubt Jalen gets more than 8 minutes a game with Atlanta. Give 2-3 years before you sink into depression.

right on daddy u dont think we did our homework and gave a competent coach who he wants to run his system??

or dis no one notice he took us from 21-45 to 41-31


Yep. Also, a lot of teams passed on Johnson. I wouldn't have been upset if they took him, but I'm not losing sleep over this. Remember how great Anthony Randolph looked in Summer league? Briggs was as insatiable as Jeff Esptein at a sweet 16 party. Couldn't go a day without a new thread. Randolph did end up having a great career in Europe, but nobody is upset that the Knicks gave up on him. You have to put SL in perspective. RJ wasn't as bad as looked and Kevin Knox is nowhere near as dynamic as he looked.
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