Rose only has limited minutes left in his body if you wanted to give him a ballon payment for a year that would have been the right play, 3 years was risky, too risky in my opinion.

If Noel could get more than 10MM out there so be it.

I can’t believe the money they just gave Fournier, ****ing THJR would have been better.

Our ceiling to improve is limited now, so expect a ****ty trade on the horizon.

We aren’t better than BK, Miami, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Chicago, Boston. Pacers will be better, Charlotte if Hayward is healthy is just as good as us, so what we saw today makes little to no sense.

Guess I just had my hopes too high on Lonzo Ball, Duncan Robinson and Kawhi Leonard.

But hey after a playoff appearance I'm still looking forward to and excited about our youth of Immanuel Quickley, R.J Barrett, Julius Randle, Mitchell Robinson and Obi Toppin along with now both Miles McBride and Quentin Grimes.

Hopefully these 4 veterans in Derrick Rose, Nerlens Noel, Alec Burks and Evan Fournier can help take our young kids over the top.

I apologize again for getting my FA hopes up so high to the point of becoming let down.

Can't wait for Summer League I'm excited to root for our young guns.

TheGame wrote:No need to apologize. We are all kind of like blah; with these moves. We just have to believe Rose knows what he is doing.

I just wanted to say sorry because I now realize I upset a lot of good people around here.

And I shouldn't have been upset about bringing 3 players back in Nerlens, Burks and Rose who all contributed throughout the season and gained playoff experience together. And maybe it's true; you've gotta first lose how to lose together in order to learn how to win together.

The reason why I'm apologizing is we just went 41-31 after years of consecutive 21-45, 17-65, 29-53, 31-51, 32-50, 17-65 and 37-45 dating back to 2013-2014 so therefore I believe I was a bit extreme in my frustrations and Martin helped knock some sense into me too. He's got an awesome fan base here and had me feeling guilty about my meltdown tonight.

I may dislike the signing of Evan Fournier specifically but I'm still really excited for our youth with players such as Miles McBride, Immanuel Quickley, R.J. Barrett, Quentin Grimes, Obi Toppin and Mitchell Robinson all being 23 years of age (or younger) and even Julius Randle is a budding star at only 26 years old. 7 younger players who I'm excited for and all homegrown talent too (outside of Julius Randle).

And maybe it's been too long since we've last built through the draft and I'm not used to the feeling because next year we'll have multiple first and second round picks as well in order to continue building long-term.

So yeah. Just thought it was only right to say sorry to the one's I've upset tonight.

Fournier is “ok” and nothing more. He was always a bad defensive player while in attack he brings something more than Bullock, but in my opinion he is not worth nearly as much money as we gave him. I honestly don't think this team is a much better than last year's.

I was hoping for a few carefully selected free agents who have the potential to take the next step but this is just disappointing. We had the most cap space and burned it to roll players and backups with no upside. Yes, I know we are in the "win now mode" but this roster simply lacks quality for "win". I guess there will be some serious attempts to trade during the season. I really don’t want to be negative, but this is worse than my "worst case scenario" for this free agency.

The Knicks needed a PG badly they signed Evan Fournier for essentially 4 years 80 million. Lonzo Ball signed for 4 and 85 In other words they signed for essentially the same amount why not bring in the point guard. And Lonzo is much closer in age to the core than Fournier.

If we find out that Lonzo did not want to come to NY which I find it hard to believe it would have been better for the Knicks to punt and wait for next year. As NYK Mentality and others have correctly stated next free agent class dwarfs this years. Again it would have been better to for the Knicks to punt and wait for next year's class. Very disappointing.

martin wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:Well at least I now know why Boston wanted nothing to do with paying him...

Last year Evan Fournier ranked....

• 5th amongst all Celtics in Points per game.

• 5th in Assists per game.

• 9th in Rebounds per game.

• 10th in FG%.

• 11th in Player Efficiency Rating.

Yeah. Right. Some great signing this guy is....

You mean for the 16 games he played for Boston last year?

You think that's significant?

And he got covid after the first few, and spoke of how hard it had hit him and how difficult the recovery was

smackeddog wrote:We should have signed CP3 to a 2 year $10mil deal, and improved while maintaining complete financial flexibility while not taking a step backwards and improving, while letting all of our players walk, while keeping continuity, and a commitment to player development while signing replacements and starters to take up to spots of the young players, committing ourselves to winning and building a culture to make us more attractive while rebuilding via tanking

2 year 10 mill? He signed a 4 year 120 mill.

Allanfan20 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:We should have signed CP3 to a 2 year $10mil deal, and improved while maintaining complete financial flexibility while not taking a step backwards and improving, while letting all of our players walk, while keeping continuity, and a commitment to player development while signing replacements and starters to take up to spots of the young players, committing ourselves to winning and building a culture to make us more attractive while rebuilding via tanking

2 year 10 mill? He signed a 4 year 120 mill.

The sarcasm comes through stronger as you read the whole post.

Since trading for Rose last year the team was 27-15. For those watching at home that translates to a 52 win team over 82 games. So basically they brought back the same team which is very young.

Its literally last year's squad signed to reasonable contracts. You lose Bullock, ELF and Frank. You replace them with Fournier, McBride and Grimes and there's your Knicks