BigDaddyG wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=antetgi01&p1yrfrom=2021&player_id2=randlju01&p2yrfrom=2021

Giannis is definitely better but there isn't a huge gap. Randle was second team all NBA, Giannis first. There is a gap but not a huge one. Randle is really good!

There is definitely a huge gap hahaha Giannis ended with a PER of 28 compared to Randle's 19. That's basically the difference between a star and a superstar and future HOFer. To put into perspective, Randle's best season would be considered the worst season Giannis had in the past five years.

Of course! Giannis is maybe the number 3 best player since 1980, after Jordan and LBJ. I don't think the Knicks can rely on a plan to get him here. That being said, Randle is as close as the next 5 guys at mimicing that kind of overall production, right?

Some lucky shoes for the Knicks to be wearing so let's not waste the opportunity to compete.

gradyandrew wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=antetgi01&p1yrfrom=2021&player_id2=randlju01&p2yrfrom=2021

Giannis is definitely better but there isn't a huge gap. Randle was second team all NBA, Giannis first. There is a gap but not a huge one. Randle is really good!

There is definitely a huge gap hahaha Giannis ended with a PER of 28 compared to Randle's 19. That's basically the difference between a star and a superstar and future HOFer. To put into perspective, Randle's best season would be considered the worst season Giannis had in the past five years.

Of course! Giannis is maybe the number 3 best player since 1980, after Jordan and LBJ. I don't think the Knicks can rely on a plan to get him here. That being said, Randle is as close as the next 5 guys at mimicing that kind of overall production, right?

Some lucky shoes for the Knicks to be wearing so let's not waste the opportunity to compete.

I know, right? We need to do our best to take advantage. Finally. Also, if I understood correctly the biggest max that Randle can get is more cap friendly because it's a lower amount than the Giannises supermax contract

xavier wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:I know, right? We need to do our best to take advantage. Finally. Also, if I understood correctly the biggest max that Randle can get is more cap friendly because it's a lower amount than the Giannises supermax contract

Yes, Randle can't get a supermax, but a "regular" max is a considerable amount too if we're talking about the one he would sign as a free agent in the summer of 2022. For the team, by far the best option is for Randle to sign this offseason since that contract would be below $ 30M per season. It’s a definitely team friendly.

xavier wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:I know, right? We need to do our best to take advantage. Finally. Also, if I understood correctly the biggest max that Randle can get is more cap friendly because it's a lower amount than the Giannises supermax contract

Yes, Randle can't get a supermax, but a "regular" max is a considerable amount too if we're talking about the one he would sign as a free agent in the summer of 2022. For the team, by far the best option is for Randle to sign this offseason since that contract would be below $ 30M per season. It’s a definitely team friendly.

I think his cap hold is roughly 6 million below what a max extension would be. Him signing an extension now would be for considerably less than he could get signing a new one next season. Not sure what Nerlen Noels has to say about that. Also, I'm not sure if his current contract has a trade kicker, but a 15% kicker would get him right near his max.

Even more goes into it though because an extension would be for a set amount whereas a max FA contract would be for a percentage of the salary cap. With a mutual opt out in the CBA next summer and then another year to negotiate, we might see a change in the revenue split, making for a larger cap and higher salaries for the max guys. Again, I'm not sure about what Nerlen Noels has to say.

Hopefully the Knicks can convince Randle that signing an extension now will give the Knicks the space to bring another All Star here. I'm just not sure if coming off an all NBA second team season his ego could handle getting less than the max.

NYKMentality wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:So much love for this guy and what he brings to the franchise. Great job keeping him around.

He's going to contend for the NBA's MVP this upcoming season and with an attacking PG in KEMBA WALKER, Julius Randle is going to feast.

Right? The upgrade of having Kemba spotting up at the 3 point line vs. Elfrid should be significant. I'm also confident Noel will have better hands and hope Robinson can play more. Maybe that frees up Randle for more shots right at the rim.