fwk00 wrote:Unfortunately, the draft like everything else has more to do with politics, social networks, and ingrown FO debt.

I agree with you wholeheartedly in your observations and opinions on this matter.

Devin Vassell was my personal draft day candidate

But year after year, violins play for local players. If he's from NY then his talent evaluation jumps 10 lottery positions.

Last year, Kentucky? Come on down!

Knox is a second-generation athlete. Pulls at your heart don't it. Obie - pretty much same deal.

Is the agent playing in the same poker games?

Add up all these constraints and more and its easy to see why the Knicks, maybe more than any other organization, get blind-sided.

IMO, the Knicks would do better by polling a few Knicks fan sites.

I'm going to make an easy prediction that players drafted after the Knicks pick will out-perform ours and thread after thread will flagellate the FO "for being so stupid".

Sorry but the logic here doesn't make sense.

- Your local guy theory........ Donovan Mitchell is from NY - so by your logic Knicks would have chosen him over Frank.

- to your reference.about last year being about Kentucky - Obi went to Dayton not Kentucky. IQ was from Kentucky as a 21 pick and worked out well so far.

- 2nd Generation athletes - close to 50% of NBA players are second generation of professional or high level athletes.

- Fan sites know better - which fans on which sites? What about the ones who get it wrong? Hindsite is 20/20 and as pointed out in this thread, fans generally focus on the superstar misses for one team forgetting that much of the draft turns out dissapointing for most teams because there is risk involved.

Knicks FO and coaching has been a merry go round in recent years. Lack of good/stabile organizational IQ have lead to drafing issues and drafting reaches in the past decade+. Hoping that the Rose regime will bring that stability and appropriate leadership. Thet being said, there is still some luck involved in the draft as well.

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Its important to note not what ATL did that was deemed “Mistakes”. I say that because despite them they are succeeding. Same with ever team that we. Might admire. Until you get success fans will focus on that. We have some here that are the kind of hindsight and focusing without the Clarity of the moment.
Lord knows Philly has messed up big time yet they were the best team in the regular season and fans perspective is “OMG, WE ARE DOOMED AND NEED TO TRADE BEN NOW!!!!”

Look at us. We nearly have benched marked Randles 5 playoff games as his career and are no doubt influenced by how things ended.
We were not built for the playoffs. It sort of happend.

PHilly should have been which is why it pains its fans.
If Milwaukee had not moved on they’d be calling for Buds he’d and thinking all kinds of things.

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I like what the Knicks are doing as a FO. Yeah I wanted Haliburton over Obi, but who could have predicted Randle becoming MIP?

If the rumors are true and they move up in the draft, Fantastic! Just draft well, no more guys who need a ton of development.

Look at how we think of Obi and all the notion he’ll not turn into much. we don’t know if he is a Chris Middleton type situation (but drafted much much higher!) but we sure as hell pegged his career ceiling on his rookie year.
Again, go look in the mirror.

Trae was the bastard pick after the Luca trade. He went further and broke thru. Not even an allstar previously!!!
Again, look in the mirror and honestly think how knick fans would have reacted to his first 2.5 seasons? Remember, we had KK fitted for his HOF jacket after his first summer league!