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martin
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5/14/2021  9:17 PM
So, 2 ACL's, wants $20M, shooting percents make Frank blush, and he used to be a defender but not really any more?
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5/15/2021  12:56 AM
If Danny Ainge call Rose and dangle the idea of salary dumping Kemba Walker's 2yr 70ish M contract plus maybe Nesmith and probably a 1st rounder. Should the knicks even entertain that?
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5/15/2021  1:35 AM
Jimbo5 wrote:If Danny Ainge call Rose and dangle the idea of salary dumping Kemba Walker's 2yr 70ish M contract plus maybe Nesmith and probably a 1st rounder. Should the knicks even entertain that?

No. Kemba stinks. I’m not sold in Nesmith.

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5/15/2021  2:50 AM
Jimbo5 wrote:If Danny Ainge call Rose and dangle the idea of salary dumping Kemba Walker's 2yr 70ish M contract plus maybe Nesmith and probably a 1st rounder. Should the knicks even entertain that?


In a four team deal to get Beal, Ainge will give up one first rounder to dump Walker, another pair will have to come from other teams. One will be a phantom first rounder ( i.e. will almost likely convert to two 2nd round picks)

Since there is history with Thibs, Ainge will offer Marcus Smart's expiring directly to him. Boston's ownership wants Tatum and Beal together, everyone else is expendable to that end.

Market approximation for a 15-17th overall first round pick is about 20 million dollars. Ainge isn't going to give 3 first rounders to dump the contract and, to be fair, three picks is an unreasonable ask even if it's the market rate. This is where pick flips become part of the negotiation. It's not just the Stepien Rule, it's the volume issue. At some quantity, you decimate your cap sheet years in advance. If you don't have picks, all you have are street free agents, which kill your cap fast.

The fourth team ( aside from Boston, Wizards and Knicks) has to be revealed before one can jettison the offer. There might be a package out there worth Walker's remaining cap hit. Unlikely but the Knicks need to do their due diligence.
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5/15/2021  11:11 AM
TPercy wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:If Danny Ainge call Rose and dangle the idea of salary dumping Kemba Walker's 2yr 70ish M contract plus maybe Nesmith and probably a 1st rounder. Should the knicks even entertain that?

No. Kemba stinks. I’m not sold in Nesmith.

When your sold on Nesmith, his value goes way up. Trades are about opportunities. Randle was an opportunity that worked. Dennis Smith Jr was one that failed.
Hinkies “process” was a statistical process that increased possibilities and was full of failures. Fans focus on that. IN Baseball we send a guy who fails 67% of the time for 15 years to the HOF and he gets candy bars named for him. Fail 72% of the time for 5 years your forgotten. IF you don’t get any at bats you never get a the chance.
In knick land we applauded IQ for a few weeks then he kind of normalized into a nice story while we rant over OBI and label him a bust halfway thru the season and harp on that. If we drafted IQ at the 8 and obi lower the narrative changes. Meanwhile the future will tell the story in its entirety.
There might be a lot of reasons “We not sold” on a player but thats why we value them lower.
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5/15/2021  9:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/15/2021  9:25 PM
martin wrote:So, 2 ACL's, wants $20M, shooting percents make Frank blush, and he used to be a defender but not really any more?


Looks like he wants more than $20m. Ouch. Despite 3pt percentage he attacks the basket and has a good short range pull up. Frank blushes anytime he is asked to shoot the ball.lol Still, I was expecting a discount due to his potential desire for expanded role and due to injury. Not looking like that at all.

https://heavy.com/sports/brooklyn-nets/spencer-dinwiddie-contract-opt-out-free-agency/

Looks like he is trying to play this year. So maybe trying to quite the injury concern.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/shlomosprung/2021/05/13/spencer-dinwiddie-discusses-returning-to-brooklyn-nets-this-season-from-torn-acl-progress-on-his-calaxy-app/amp/

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