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Does Dolan deserve any credit?
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Nalod
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5/6/2021  9:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/6/2021  9:46 PM
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Welpee wrote:
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Pass the CPA on the 10th try, your a CPA. It might show fortitude and persistency to take it so many times. Participation is just showing up. Dolan need not do heavy lifting but lift his pen. He did. he gets Partial credit.

He don't get it.

Neither do you. Dolan did not create the “Billions”, he inherited from his dad. He has earned all his bad press and then some. Granted he did sell Cablevison at the right time so as chairman he gets partial credit for not ****ing it up.
I never faulted him for not giving Riley equity as it was not entirely his to give and the structure of cooperation as it was might have not been that easy. Aronson in Miami had a far simplier set up and he made a really good deal to bring on Riles. But Dolan moving on from Checketts was trying to prove a point that he failed at miserably. We can go on and on.
But, as stated if he takes much blame he gets some credit even if the odds were in our favor that eventually we’d right ship.
Dolan post Isiah with Walsh and steppping over him to make the melo deal as it was set up the team for another decade in ineptitude. Hiring PHil was a good attempt I don’t blame him for. That was just bad luck. The KP thing was bad luck. Fiz was bad luck. Bad Karma perhaps?
We not out of the woods yet with this.

By the way, Love the statement from his office about head of player safety and getting fined!!!!
Dude is showing spunk. Got pissed off nobody defended his guys, fired them, and is pissed off!!!! They got Drury but will they bring in Messier?

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5/7/2021  12:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/7/2021  12:30 PM
Nalod wrote:0
Welpee wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Pass the CPA on the 10th try, your a CPA. It might show fortitude and persistency to take it so many times. Participation is just showing up. Dolan need not do heavy lifting but lift his pen. He did. he gets Partial credit.

He don't get it.

Neither do you. Dolan did not create the “Billions”, he inherited from his dad. He has earned all his bad press and then some. Granted he did sell Cablevison at the right time so as chairman he gets partial credit for not ****ing it up.
I never faulted him for not giving Riley equity as it was not entirely his to give and the structure of cooperation as it was might have not been that easy. Aronson in Miami had a far simplier set up and he made a really good deal to bring on Riles. But Dolan moving on from Checketts was trying to prove a point that he failed at miserably. We can go on and on.
But, as stated if he takes much blame he gets some credit even if the odds were in our favor that eventually we’d right ship.
Dolan post Isiah with Walsh and steppping over him to make the melo deal as it was set up the team for another decade in ineptitude. Hiring PHil was a good attempt I don’t blame him for. That was just bad luck. The KP thing was bad luck. Fiz was bad luck. Bad Karma perhaps?
We not out of the woods yet with this.

By the way, Love the statement from his office about head of player safety and getting fined!!!!
Dude is showing spunk. Got pissed off nobody defended his guys, fired them, and is pissed off!!!! They got Drury but will they bring in Messier?

What don't I get? People can't seem to separate the past from the actual simple question this thread is about: "does he deserve any credit" for what's happening now? You just posted yourself that he gets some credit so I don't see any disagreement.
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5/7/2021  1:27 PM
Welpee wrote:
Nalod wrote:0
Welpee wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Pass the CPA on the 10th try, your a CPA. It might show fortitude and persistency to take it so many times. Participation is just showing up. Dolan need not do heavy lifting but lift his pen. He did. he gets Partial credit.

He don't get it.

Neither do you. Dolan did not create the “Billions”, he inherited from his dad. He has earned all his bad press and then some. Granted he did sell Cablevison at the right time so as chairman he gets partial credit for not ****ing it up.
I never faulted him for not giving Riley equity as it was not entirely his to give and the structure of cooperation as it was might have not been that easy. Aronson in Miami had a far simplier set up and he made a really good deal to bring on Riles. But Dolan moving on from Checketts was trying to prove a point that he failed at miserably. We can go on and on.
But, as stated if he takes much blame he gets some credit even if the odds were in our favor that eventually we’d right ship.
Dolan post Isiah with Walsh and steppping over him to make the melo deal as it was set up the team for another decade in ineptitude. Hiring PHil was a good attempt I don’t blame him for. That was just bad luck. The KP thing was bad luck. Fiz was bad luck. Bad Karma perhaps?
We not out of the woods yet with this.

By the way, Love the statement from his office about head of player safety and getting fined!!!!
Dude is showing spunk. Got pissed off nobody defended his guys, fired them, and is pissed off!!!! They got Drury but will they bring in Messier?

What don't I get? People can't seem to separate the past from the actual simple question this thread is about: "does he deserve any credit" for what's happening now? You just posted yourself that he gets some credit so I don't see any disagreement.

Mostly that Dolan created his billions. The rest we are not he same page.......

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5/7/2021  1:35 PM
Yes, deserves credit

He deserves to be dinged for the past… but he also deserves credit as setting up the CAA thing, the University of Knicktucky, etc. people ridiculed the idea previously and I saw that getting ridiculed HERE

So this is entire operation started with Dolan and yes he deserves credit for what’s happening here

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5/7/2021  2:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/7/2021  2:46 PM
Nalod wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Nalod wrote:0
Welpee wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Pass the CPA on the 10th try, your a CPA. It might show fortitude and persistency to take it so many times. Participation is just showing up. Dolan need not do heavy lifting but lift his pen. He did. he gets Partial credit.

He don't get it.

Neither do you. Dolan did not create the “Billions”, he inherited from his dad. He has earned all his bad press and then some. Granted he did sell Cablevison at the right time so as chairman he gets partial credit for not ****ing it up.
I never faulted him for not giving Riley equity as it was not entirely his to give and the structure of cooperation as it was might have not been that easy. Aronson in Miami had a far simplier set up and he made a really good deal to bring on Riles. But Dolan moving on from Checketts was trying to prove a point that he failed at miserably. We can go on and on.
But, as stated if he takes much blame he gets some credit even if the odds were in our favor that eventually we’d right ship.
Dolan post Isiah with Walsh and steppping over him to make the melo deal as it was set up the team for another decade in ineptitude. Hiring PHil was a good attempt I don’t blame him for. That was just bad luck. The KP thing was bad luck. Fiz was bad luck. Bad Karma perhaps?
We not out of the woods yet with this.

By the way, Love the statement from his office about head of player safety and getting fined!!!!
Dude is showing spunk. Got pissed off nobody defended his guys, fired them, and is pissed off!!!! They got Drury but will they bring in Messier?

What don't I get? People can't seem to separate the past from the actual simple question this thread is about: "does he deserve any credit" for what's happening now? You just posted yourself that he gets some credit so I don't see any disagreement.

Mostly that Dolan created his billions. The rest we are not he same page.......

Maybe you're confusing me with someone else. The only thing I really said was if he gets blame for the bad stuff he should get some credit for when things go well. I actually haven't said much about Dolan, his wealth or overall activities as an owner. I said all of his past mistakes are irrelevant to the question posed in this thread regarding credit for what's happening with the team today.
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5/8/2021  1:38 PM
Dolan decided to build the right way through the draft. He stopped listening to the media and could have easily self destructed after the KD debacle but he decided to stay the course and continue the youth movement


He absolutely deserves credit and he is no longer the worst owner in NY Sports that goes to Woody Johnson

Does Dolan deserve any credit?

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