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Nalod
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3/29/2021  2:08 PM
GustavBahler wrote:So far, this roster was built mostly by Perry. Im sure Rose wants to put his own stamp on the team. He was very smart not to make changes like past execs, just to put their own stamp on the team. Wether it really made sense,or not.

Believe this offseason we're going to see Rose try to put his own stamp on the roster with some big FA signings, easier if we're a playoff team.

I think there is a good chance that Lonzo will be one of them. Seems to be mutual interest.

“I’m sure”....how is that come to be? I mean there is a logical process of picks, trades, and FA’s but the notion of putting his own stamp on it for the sake of it is not really logical given a teams record is what matters. Dolan hired Leon with the thought and knowledge he’d revamp the whole organization at some Point. Leon comes in and just a few weeks later Covid shuts it down. Free agency, the draft, the whole summer process got out of kilter and there was no normalcy. Made perfect sense keep Perry around and perfect sense for Perry to not relate his family. what happens going forward? I don’t know. Leon might love Perry and want to keep him, or maybe Toronto hires him away when Masai goes off to work for U.N. Save the world. I have no idea.
Leon bought in all his own people and over time they will put their stamp on it but not for ego sake, but the logical process of making decisions. If they were ego driven and impatient that would not be the mark of a good executive. Given the circumstances last spring of Covid that would have been even worse.

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GustavBahler
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3/29/2021  2:43 PM
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:So far, this roster was built mostly by Perry. Im sure Rose wants to put his own stamp on the team. He was very smart not to make changes like past execs, just to put their own stamp on the team. Wether it really made sense,or not.

Believe this offseason we're going to see Rose try to put his own stamp on the roster with some big FA signings, easier if we're a playoff team.

I think there is a good chance that Lonzo will be one of them. Seems to be mutual interest.

“I’m sure”....how is that come to be? I mean there is a logical process of picks, trades, and FA’s but the notion of putting his own stamp on it for the sake of it is not really logical given a teams record is what matters. Dolan hired Leon with the thought and knowledge he’d revamp the whole organization at some Point. Leon comes in and just a few weeks later Covid shuts it down. Free agency, the draft, the whole summer process got out of kilter and there was no normalcy. Made perfect sense keep Perry around and perfect sense for Perry to not relate his family. what happens going forward? I don’t know. Leon might love Perry and want to keep him, or maybe Toronto hires him away when Masai goes off to work for U.N. Save the world. I have no idea.
Leon bought in all his own people and over time they will put their stamp on it but not for ego sake, but the logical process of making decisions. If they were ego driven and impatient that would not be the mark of a good executive. Given the circumstances last spring of Covid that would have been even worse.

Rainman, Rose brought back Burks, Bullock, Randle, Payton, among others in the offseason. He could have done what many of his predecessors did in their first offseason, and gutted the roster. Covid didnt stop him from gutting the roster, if he wanted to. Didnt stop other teams from making moves, still hasnt.

If he was planning on moving most of these players, it was dumb luck it worked out. Dont believe it was.

Made perfect sense to keep Perry around because he was doing a good job. If he wasnt we wouldnt have a playoff team mostly built by him, with plenty of cap space.

fishmike
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3/29/2021  2:44 PM
GustavBahler wrote:So far, this roster was built mostly by Perry. Im sure Rose wants to put his own stamp on the team. He was very smart not to make changes like past execs, just to put their own stamp on the team. Wether it really made sense,or not.

Believe this offseason we're going to see Rose try to put his own stamp on the roster with some big FA signings, easier if we're a playoff team.

I think there is a good chance that Lonzo will be one of them. Seems to be mutual interest.

Pretty sure Rose has already put his stamp on the team. Its Tom Thibodeau. Anyone else notice that stamp?
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
GustavBahler
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3/29/2021  2:52 PM
fishmike wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:So far, this roster was built mostly by Perry. Im sure Rose wants to put his own stamp on the team. He was very smart not to make changes like past execs, just to put their own stamp on the team. Wether it really made sense,or not.

Believe this offseason we're going to see Rose try to put his own stamp on the roster with some big FA signings, easier if we're a playoff team.

I think there is a good chance that Lonzo will be one of them. Seems to be mutual interest.

Pretty sure Rose has already put his stamp on the team. Its Tom Thibodeau. Anyone else notice that stamp?

Cute, we were talking about the roster, not coaching, or front office hires.

fishmike
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3/29/2021  6:04 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
fishmike wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:So far, this roster was built mostly by Perry. Im sure Rose wants to put his own stamp on the team. He was very smart not to make changes like past execs, just to put their own stamp on the team. Wether it really made sense,or not.

Believe this offseason we're going to see Rose try to put his own stamp on the roster with some big FA signings, easier if we're a playoff team.

I think there is a good chance that Lonzo will be one of them. Seems to be mutual interest.

Pretty sure Rose has already put his stamp on the team. Its Tom Thibodeau. Anyone else notice that stamp?

Cute, we were talking about the roster, not coaching, or front office hires.

good! Its a critical point and I cant get a clear answer from the pro-Lonzo crowd on just how worth it they think he is. Would you pay $100mm and give up a first rounder in a S&T? Do you think he's going to reach a next level like Julius did?

His age, defense and team play make him attractive. Lonzo is not a player I dislike, but we are at a critical spot where Knicks need to either execute on getting a player and avoid mistakes at the same time. Paying huge money to Lonzo while using an asset to get him is risky based on what Lonzo has shown in the league. Im not trying to corner you or anyone, Im genuinely curious how high a price you would pay for Lonzo. Honestly I do trust Rose based on what I have seen so far, or at the least he's earned a wait and see.

Lonzo and Randle are close. That's a chemistry plus. I really think we need to lock up another bigtime scorer. Market sucks. Could be really interesting, but it could also be really boring. Like resign some guys and have a great draft. Hopefully you see the kind of sophomore leaps from IQ/Obi we are getting from RJ (and he continues as well). Just keep doing what we are doing

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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