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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39815 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
2/19/2021 8:43 PM
Welpee wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:So IQ starting versus getting the same minutes off the bench helps his development how?smackeddog wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:smackeddog wrote: It helps learn the league as a starter. Also, I'm assuming he's get even more minutes. Help him learn the conditioning needed for the NBA. It might also help him get a blue chip backcourt mate in the upcoming draft  Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
2/19/2021 8:45 PM
jskinny35 wrote:Briggs - anytime a player costs a good amount it's not necessarily a no brainer. I don't think he fits playing around Randle and think it would pose chemistry issues to have a guy (looking to get new contract) playing little minutes. Say we trade him for scraps - that's still money that could be better used at a more needed position and/or you never know when other players requests trades. We have such greater need at SG, PG, etc... IMO - he's not the guy you pick up unless he costs much less salary wise and/or we are moving on from Mitch. I do we lost a center and we can get a good 1. I dont think he does anything to julius randle. Mitch robinson plays around the hoop. RIP Crushalot😞
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firefly
Posts: 23226 Alba Posts: 17 Joined: 7/26/2004 Member: #721 United Kingdom |
2/19/2021 8:59 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Cap space I'm so disappointed that it took to the third page for someone to point out that Frank Knox would be an epic NBA player. Unstoppable force on D, smooth J from the corner, slashing and crashing, huffing and stuffing. Frank Knox would be an All-Star. Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream things that never were and ask why not?
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Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
2/19/2021 9:04 PM LAST EDITED: 2/19/2021 9:05 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Well, I'm thankfully not all coaches think like fans and understand sometimes the meal turns out better when it's slow cooked versus thrown in the microwave.Welpee wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:So IQ starting versus getting the same minutes off the bench helps his development how?smackeddog wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:smackeddog wrote: |
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Philc1
Posts: 28307 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
2/20/2021 5:09 AM LAST EDITED: 2/20/2021 5:13 AM
If the Knicks get Drummond they can use Mitch as trade bait to get that elusive superstar here in a sign and trade
The cavs talent outside Drummond is mediocre at best. Darius Garland is on his way to bring a bust thank God we picked RJ over him |
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Philc1
Posts: 28307 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
2/20/2021 5:12 AM
Welpee wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Drummond was the best player on playoff teams in Detroit. Calling him Kevin Love is the dumbest take in the history of dumb takes |
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Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
2/20/2021 8:42 AM LAST EDITED: 2/20/2021 8:45 AM
Philc1 wrote:Drummond was the best player on ONE Detroit playoff team who barely got into the playoffs as the 8th seed and got swept in the first round. The ONLY other time he made the playoffs they were once again the 8th seed with a .500 record and got swept in the first round. And that year he WAS NOT the best player, Blake Griffin was. Not to mention his playoff stats that year took a major dip compared to this regular season numbers. What Kevin Love has to do with this I have no idea.Welpee wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Sorry if the details softens your mega "take" about the greatness of Andre Drummond. |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
2/20/2021 10:53 AM
Welpee wrote:Philc1 wrote:Drummond was the best player on ONE Detroit playoff team who barely got into the playoffs as the 8th seed and got swept in the first round. The ONLY other time he made the playoffs they were once again the 8th seed with a .500 record and got swept in the first round. And that year he WAS NOT the best player, Blake Griffin was. Not to mention his playoff stats that year took a major dip compared to this regular season numbers. What Kevin Love has to do with this I have no idea.Welpee wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I’m not sure why so against? RIP Crushalot😞
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smackeddog
Posts: 38389 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
2/20/2021 11:11 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Welpee wrote:Philc1 wrote:Drummond was the best player on ONE Detroit playoff team who barely got into the playoffs as the 8th seed and got swept in the first round. The ONLY other time he made the playoffs they were once again the 8th seed with a .500 record and got swept in the first round. And that year he WAS NOT the best player, Blake Griffin was. Not to mention his playoff stats that year took a major dip compared to this regular season numbers. What Kevin Love has to do with this I have no idea.Welpee wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: People have posted multiple times: You risk bombing the team chemistry I'd rather use the cap space on something else |
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27962 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
2/20/2021 11:30 AM LAST EDITED: 2/20/2021 11:31 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Welpee wrote:Philc1 wrote:Drummond was the best player on ONE Detroit playoff team who barely got into the playoffs as the 8th seed and got swept in the first round. The ONLY other time he made the playoffs they were once again the 8th seed with a .500 record and got swept in the first round. And that year he WAS NOT the best player, Blake Griffin was. Not to mention his playoff stats that year took a major dip compared to this regular season numbers. What Kevin Love has to do with this I have no idea.Welpee wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I think i will agree with this. Although I prefer a shooter ie Lavine. I think Briggs has a point. Frank and Knox have had years and we are still hoping. They may be dealt for 2nd rounders at best. Which we would not be able to sign as we have too many picks. Which I still like to use to move up in the draft but Drummond is young and a hell of a player. I disagree with those saying 20 and 15 do not affect a game. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
2/20/2021 12:03 PM LAST EDITED: 2/20/2021 12:05 PM
smackeddog wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Welpee wrote:Philc1 wrote:Drummond was the best player on ONE Detroit playoff team who barely got into the playoffs as the 8th seed and got swept in the first round. The ONLY other time he made the playoffs they were once again the 8th seed with a .500 record and got swept in the first round. And that year he WAS NOT the best player, Blake Griffin was. Not to mention his playoff stats that year took a major dip compared to this regular season numbers. What Kevin Love has to do with this I have no idea.Welpee wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Hey if u can get 2 first rd draft picks for our space— then ok— but it’s nearly impossible. Why not try to win this year best we can? Drummond I n this team will be real good. Just compare Noel to Drummond? Andre Drummond is a good person — he’s a good teammate. Hell do nothing to team chemistry RIP Crushalot😞
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
2/20/2021 12:07 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Welpee wrote:Philc1 wrote:Drummond was the best player on ONE Detroit playoff team who barely got into the playoffs as the 8th seed and got swept in the first round. The ONLY other time he made the playoffs they were once again the 8th seed with a .500 record and got swept in the first round. And that year he WAS NOT the best player, Blake Griffin was. Not to mention his playoff stats that year took a major dip compared to this regular season numbers. What Kevin Love has to do with this I have no idea.Welpee wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: We’re not getting Zach lavine. Drummond is a no brainer trade two players who don’t play for a position we just lost— for free. No long term commitment RIP Crushalot😞
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Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
2/20/2021 12:15 PM LAST EDITED: 2/20/2021 12:19 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:20 and 15 affects your pay check (hence Drummond getting $28M per year), but what has it done in terms of affecting team success? And for $28M I don't want to hear about the supporting cast. Look at what a prime Dwight Howard was able to accomplish in Orlando not exactly playing with stacked squads. And while everybody wanted a prime Dwight Howard leading up to free agency, Drummond (putting up comparable numbers) will be begging for teams to take him on a severely discounted contract. Why is that?BRIGGS wrote:Welpee wrote:Philc1 wrote:Drummond was the best player on ONE Detroit playoff team who barely got into the playoffs as the 8th seed and got swept in the first round. The ONLY other time he made the playoffs they were once again the 8th seed with a .500 record and got swept in the first round. And that year he WAS NOT the best player, Blake Griffin was. Not to mention his playoff stats that year took a major dip compared to this regular season numbers. What Kevin Love has to do with this I have no idea.Welpee wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: The typical Drummond season since he hit his stride has been around 16-17 ppg, 14-15 rebs, 1.5 blocked shots. Look at this team's won-loss record and tell me how much of an affect it has had on games? Two losing franchises have/will shortly dump him for way less than you would expect for someone putting up the numbers he puts up. The question is why aren't these red flags resonating with some Knicks fans? The answer is because people are only looking at his numbers and that one monster game against us and they're sold. |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
2/20/2021 12:20 PM
Welpee wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:20 and 15 affects your pay check (hence Drummond getting $28M per year), but what has it done in terms of affecting team success? And for $28M I don't want to hear about the supporting cast. Look at what a prime Dwight Howard was able to accomplish in Orlando not exactly playing with stacked squads.BRIGGS wrote:Welpee wrote:Philc1 wrote:Drummond was the best player on ONE Detroit playoff team who barely got into the playoffs as the 8th seed and got swept in the first round. The ONLY other time he made the playoffs they were once again the 8th seed with a .500 record and got swept in the first round. And that year he WAS NOT the best player, Blake Griffin was. Not to mention his playoff stats that year took a major dip compared to this regular season numbers. What Kevin Love has to do with this I have no idea.Welpee wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: How about he’s been a solid basketball player for many years in the nba? He has no contract beyond this year. Free look RIP Crushalot😞
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39815 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
2/20/2021 12:22 PM
BRIGGS wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Welpee wrote:Philc1 wrote:Drummond was the best player on ONE Detroit playoff team who barely got into the playoffs as the 8th seed and got swept in the first round. The ONLY other time he made the playoffs they were once again the 8th seed with a .500 record and got swept in the first round. And that year he WAS NOT the best player, Blake Griffin was. Not to mention his playoff stats that year took a major dip compared to this regular season numbers. What Kevin Love has to do with this I have no idea.Welpee wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Preach on Briggs! Knox and Frank aren't doing anything. Let's go all in for that 8th pic...um, 8th seed. Worse case scenario, Drummond sucks and those minutes go to Obi. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
2/20/2021 3:09 PM
BRIGGS wrote:It's not a "free look." You have to trade for him. You have to give up assets to acquire him. Just because Knox and Frank aren't playing doesn't mean they are not potential trade assets. You burn the cap space flexibility for the rest of the year if there are other opportunities for better players who may be a better fit.Welpee wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:20 and 15 affects your pay check (hence Drummond getting $28M per year), but what has it done in terms of affecting team success? And for $28M I don't want to hear about the supporting cast. Look at what a prime Dwight Howard was able to accomplish in Orlando not exactly playing with stacked squads.BRIGGS wrote:Welpee wrote:Philc1 wrote:Drummond was the best player on ONE Detroit playoff team who barely got into the playoffs as the 8th seed and got swept in the first round. The ONLY other time he made the playoffs they were once again the 8th seed with a .500 record and got swept in the first round. And that year he WAS NOT the best player, Blake Griffin was. Not to mention his playoff stats that year took a major dip compared to this regular season numbers. What Kevin Love has to do with this I have no idea.Welpee wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: This reminds me of when we supposedly chased (ironically) Drummond's former teammate Greg Monroe. Looked good on paper. A big putting up close to a double/double every game scoring 15+ ppg. How does that look in hindsight? |
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Jmpasq
Posts: 25243 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/10/2012 Member: #4182 |
2/20/2021 3:13 PM
smackeddog wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Welpee wrote:Philc1 wrote:Drummond was the best player on ONE Detroit playoff team who barely got into the playoffs as the 8th seed and got swept in the first round. The ONLY other time he made the playoffs they were once again the 8th seed with a .500 record and got swept in the first round. And that year he WAS NOT the best player, Blake Griffin was. Not to mention his playoff stats that year took a major dip compared to this regular season numbers. What Kevin Love has to do with this I have no idea.Welpee wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: He would be a complete waste of 20 million a year. We need a true 6'8" - 6'9" lights out shooting SF and a PG. He doesnt fit the team Check out My NFL Draft Prospect Videos at Youtube User Pages Jmpasq,JPdraftjedi,Jmpasqdraftjedi. www.Draftbreakdown.com
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