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Knixkik
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1/5/2021  10:02 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/5/2021  10:03 AM
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:We have a good player here

What Quickley is is smart like rondo

And he has offensive skills

This is what a lottery pick would look like. He plays like he knows he can compete with NBA guys from day one. No need for fans to make excuses about their play after three years in the league. Kid is high energy, aggressive, can shoot, plays defense and most of all has the high IQ of a PRO basketball player. We have not seen this total package from our guards in a long time. FO deserves a lot of credit for this late 1st pick. Many had him as a mid second.

And i'll never understand how he was only viewed as a second round pick. He was SEC player of the year and only a soph, not like he was a senior. In a league that values shooting, he's a 40+ 3pt shooter and 90+ ft shooter. And he has a 6'9 wingspan or whatever and showed solid defensive play at the college level. What am i missing? I know he's not a classic PG, but that doesn't matter anymore. Why did draft "experts" miss so badly on a player like this and calling him a mid second round pick? Between his skillset and college success, that's a lottery pick package.

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1/5/2021  10:06 AM
TheGame wrote:Quickley could be the missing piece to the offense that gives RJ and Randle space to do their thing. I cannot wait to see what Quickley can do over the next 10 games if given a consistent 20-25 minutes.

I sure hope so. Quickley fits so well with those 2. His weakness of not being a great playmaker is mitigated with the playmaking Randle and Barrett bring. Quickley's shooting and ability to get to the basket is the type of player we have been hoping to pair with Randle and Barrett since the beginning of last year.

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1/5/2021  10:17 AM
I like that RJ gets nice open looks with him on the court and he hits them.
His game end interview was excellent. He still has his scripts form draft interviews and is guarded. I’m not saying thats a bad thing, its smart. For a 21 year old kid he is poised on and off the court in his knick uni. For all we know he might be a crack dealing degenerate but in uni he is an impressive young man!
They asked him about being nervous elevating his game to this level and he said “AT UK we played in front of 30,000 fans every night”. He really did not answer the question but deflected it smart to not appear arrogant or boastful. He praised winning and teammates. Not that I was expecting “Yeah man, back the truck up when its my time”.

Have to say its refreshing that our Duke and UK guys are well mannered and coachable.
Knox had some good looks last night and delivered. small batches. Thibs is doing it well.

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1/5/2021  11:13 AM
Knixkik wrote:
TheGame wrote:Quickley could be the missing piece to the offense that gives RJ and Randle space to do their thing. I cannot wait to see what Quickley can do over the next 10 games if given a consistent 20-25 minutes.

I sure hope so. Quickley fits so well with those 2. His weakness of not being a great playmaker is mitigated with the playmaking Randle and Barrett bring. Quickley's shooting and ability to get to the basket is the type of player we have been hoping to pair with Randle and Barrett since the beginning of last year.

Absolutely agree IQ impact on the games he has played in have been more than significant. A real game changer! Looks a great pick and potentially the steal of the draft. Can his success be attributed to the fact alone that he is a genuine talented player, or is this evidence of the work from the new coaching staff?

If so can we expect other players on this roster to develop further this year ( talking to you here Frankie, KK etc ) like wise can we expect to continue to hit on future draft picks etc?

I’m trying to keep realistic expectations and not get carried away, but the Knicks are fun to watch again.

Thoughts?

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1/5/2021  12:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/5/2021  12:20 PM
Knickfury11 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
TheGame wrote:Quickley could be the missing piece to the offense that gives RJ and Randle space to do their thing. I cannot wait to see what Quickley can do over the next 10 games if given a consistent 20-25 minutes.

I sure hope so. Quickley fits so well with those 2. His weakness of not being a great playmaker is mitigated with the playmaking Randle and Barrett bring. Quickley's shooting and ability to get to the basket is the type of player we have been hoping to pair with Randle and Barrett since the beginning of last year.

Absolutely agree IQ impact on the games he has played in have been more than significant. A real game changer! Looks a great pick and potentially the steal of the draft. Can his success be attributed to the fact alone that he is a genuine talented player, or is this evidence of the work from the new coaching staff?

If so can we expect other players on this roster to develop further this year ( talking to you here Frankie, KK etc ) like wise can we expect to continue to hit on future draft picks etc?

I’m trying to keep realistic expectations and not get carried away, but the Knicks are fun to watch again.

Thoughts?

Yes, his play is not something that appears unsustainable like a 80% 3pt percentage. What he does now, he will be able to do it later this year and even better the next. I'm inclined to think that the progress made by our players is due to their hard work during the offseason and being in a right state of mind to begin this year. Let's see how they adapt when it won't be a as much sunshine as it is now.

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1/5/2021  12:44 PM
I've been searching Quickley's history.

In the 2018 draft class, Quickley was a consensus 5 star recruit, ranked top 2-4 at PG (usually behind Garland and Tre Jones); He was ranked in the 10-22 range overall. Quickley considered Kansas before picking Kentucky. Kansas eventually signed Devon Dotson, who also spent 2 years in college, declared for the 2020 draft and ultimately went undrafted.

On one hand, I think Calipari perhaps cost him millions by not showcasing his skills and letting him play PG... BUT... he ended up being a 1st round pick, while his "what if" counterpart did not get drafted.

If Payne and WWW were not on the Knicks staff, would the Knicks have trusted Calipari's testimonials about him?

And while the shooting and his skills at drawing fouls are apparent, I guess it still remains to be seen whether he can be a true PG or whether he's best suited in a Lou Williams sort of role. (It all depends on his teammates - if he's destined to share the floor with playmakers at other positions like RJ and Randle (and Rivers/Burks), classifying him as a PG or SG is a moot point because distribution/ball handling is shared.)

@Knickfury11 - I think the Knicks made some smart investments by bringing in talent experts WWW, Rose, + a few player dev experts on staff (particularly Payne), the hope would be that 1) we'll get better at evaluating draft talent and 2) developing it. And of course, with TT we have a hardcore coach with relatively few questions about his resume.

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1/5/2021  12:59 PM
I love his driving floater to the basket move
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1/5/2021  1:02 PM
Knixkik wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:We have a good player here

What Quickley is is smart like rondo

And he has offensive skills

This is what a lottery pick would look like. He plays like he knows he can compete with NBA guys from day one. No need for fans to make excuses about their play after three years in the league. Kid is high energy, aggressive, can shoot, plays defense and most of all has the high IQ of a PRO basketball player. We have not seen this total package from our guards in a long time. FO deserves a lot of credit for this late 1st pick. Many had him as a mid second.

And i'll never understand how he was only viewed as a second round pick. He was SEC player of the year and only a soph, not like he was a senior. In a league that values shooting, he's a 40+ 3pt shooter and 90+ ft shooter. And he has a 6'9 wingspan or whatever and showed solid defensive play at the college level. What am i missing? I know he's not a classic PG, but that doesn't matter anymore. Why did draft "experts" miss so badly on a player like this and calling him a mid second round pick? Between his skillset and college success, that's a lottery pick package.


Calipari didn’t use him as a pg. he was an undersized 2
A major underrated factor with Quickley

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