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Uptown
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11/24/2020  10:00 AM
smackeddog wrote:Jonathon Macri said on his Knicks Film School podcast that a) he knew for a fact they're discussing moving on from Randle, also cryptically said something about them the starting PG for this season isn't on the team yet, or something like that. Then later in the podcast he again cryptically, carefully choosing his words said /hinted they're working on acquiring a player who can run the offense, that may not be a PG but would be pretty good at the 2, and then it wouldn't matter who's at PG.

Can anyone think of a SG who we could trade for who could be traded for (possibly for Randle) run the offense, and move RJ to the 3?

Only one I can think of is Bledsoe? Hope not! Buddy Hield? (can he run an offense?)

Was this recorded before or after signing Austin Rivers?

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11/24/2020  10:56 AM
Uptown wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Jonathon Macri said on his Knicks Film School podcast that a) he knew for a fact they're discussing moving on from Randle, also cryptically said something about them the starting PG for this season isn't on the team yet, or something like that. Then later in the podcast he again cryptically, carefully choosing his words said /hinted they're working on acquiring a player who can run the offense, that may not be a PG but would be pretty good at the 2, and then it wouldn't matter who's at PG.

Can anyone think of a SG who we could trade for who could be traded for (possibly for Randle) run the offense, and move RJ to the 3?

Only one I can think of is Bledsoe? Hope not! Buddy Hield? (can he run an offense?)

Was this recorded before or after signing Austin Rivers?

It would either be Oladipo or WB

But they pacers have no need whatsoever with Randle when they have Turner, Sabonis, Leaf and Tj warren.

They probably don't want to include draft picks because Dipo would be a UFA and could bounce at the end of the season.

The rockets probably want RJ plus future picks in any trade for WB or Harden

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11/24/2020  11:03 AM
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Uptown wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Jonathon Macri said on his Knicks Film School podcast that a) he knew for a fact they're discussing moving on from Randle, also cryptically said something about them the starting PG for this season isn't on the team yet, or something like that. Then later in the podcast he again cryptically, carefully choosing his words said /hinted they're working on acquiring a player who can run the offense, that may not be a PG but would be pretty good at the 2, and then it wouldn't matter who's at PG.

Can anyone think of a SG who we could trade for who could be traded for (possibly for Randle) run the offense, and move RJ to the 3?

Only one I can think of is Bledsoe? Hope not! Buddy Hield? (can he run an offense?)

Was this recorded before or after signing Austin Rivers?

It would either be Oladipo or WB

But they pacers have no need whatsoever with Randle when they have Turner, Sabonis, Leaf and Tj warren.

They probably don't want to include draft picks because Dipo would be a UFA and could bounce at the end of the season.

The rockets probably want RJ plus future picks in any trade for WB or Harden


Westbrook is unlikely. They already passed on CP3 and Westbrook's cap hit is even longer. I think Ola was definitely a possible when Indiana still had a chance at Hayward. I don't know now.
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11/24/2020  12:00 PM
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houston20 wrote:Charlotte still needs move contracts for gordon hayward i wouldn't be surprise if they called the knicks help them take a contract like rozier.

Take on batum for first round pick


I think they already waived him.

So I thought so too but that was just their announcement. Gordon Hayward has not yet officially signed and neither has Batum been waived. I think Boston and Charlotte are still cooking things up so stay tuned.

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11/24/2020  1:21 PM
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knicks1248 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Jonathon Macri said on his Knicks Film School podcast that a) he knew for a fact they're discussing moving on from Randle, also cryptically said something about them the starting PG for this season isn't on the team yet, or something like that. Then later in the podcast he again cryptically, carefully choosing his words said /hinted they're working on acquiring a player who can run the offense, that may not be a PG but would be pretty good at the 2, and then it wouldn't matter who's at PG.

Can anyone think of a SG who we could trade for who could be traded for (possibly for Randle) run the offense, and move RJ to the 3?

Only one I can think of is Bledsoe? Hope not! Buddy Hield? (can he run an offense?)

Was this recorded before or after signing Austin Rivers?

It would either be Oladipo or WB

But they pacers have no need whatsoever with Randle when they have Turner, Sabonis, Leaf and Tj warren.

They probably don't want to include draft picks because Dipo would be a UFA and could bounce at the end of the season.

The rockets probably want RJ plus future picks in any trade for WB or Harden


Westbrook is unlikely. They already passed on CP3 and Westbrook's cap hit is even longer. I think Ola was definitely a possible when Indiana still had a chance at Hayward. I don't know now.

The problem im having with not committing to anyone pass this season, is that most of the TOP FA next yr have player options and there is no reason to believe they will opt out to play with the knicks.

what I don't understand is How can you put your entire game plan on 2021 FA, when the franchise has zero history of attracting any free agents yr after yr.

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11/24/2020  2:37 PM
Knixkik wrote:Would you guys trade Randle to New Orleans for Eric Bledsoe? He's going to make 16 mil a year for the next 3 years. He's not ideal, but much better than Payton.

Do not see Bledsoe changing much. If TT can get Randle back to down low presence and play some D, he will add more to our win total than Bledsoe. Imo. Randle is still a young player. He is physical and has a high offensive skill set. He was our top scorer and is tough to stop down low.
Fizdale was more to blame with how bad he looked. Trying to make his a PF was a joke. Feel TT will not let him do that will hopefully push him to play the physical game more.

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11/24/2020  2:51 PM
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Knixkik wrote:Would you guys trade Randle to New Orleans for Eric Bledsoe? He's going to make 16 mil a year for the next 3 years. He's not ideal, but much better than Payton.

Do not see Bledsoe changing much. If TT can get Randle back to down low presence and play some D, he will add more to our win total than Bledsoe. Imo. Randle is still a young player. He is physical and has a high offensive skill set. He was our top scorer and is tough to stop down low.
Fizdale was more to blame with how bad he looked. Trying to make his a PF was a joke. Feel TT will not let him do that will hopefully push him to play the physical game more.

beldsoe is an underrated defender and player in general IMO.

if team can do what you suggest with Randle that would be great. i would still worry about ball hog nature at times, and IMO low BBIQ. And he better produce because the detriment is the spacing will screw up RJ at a minimum and maybe more.

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11/24/2020  3:03 PM
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Knixkik wrote:Would you guys trade Randle to New Orleans for Eric Bledsoe? He's going to make 16 mil a year for the next 3 years. He's not ideal, but much better than Payton.

Do not see Bledsoe changing much. If TT can get Randle back to down low presence and play some D, he will add more to our win total than Bledsoe. Imo. Randle is still a young player. He is physical and has a high offensive skill set. He was our top scorer and is tough to stop down low.
Fizdale was more to blame with how bad he looked. Trying to make his a PF was a joke. Feel TT will not let him do that will hopefully push him to play the physical game more.

Plus Pelicans just traded for and extended Adams. They probably are looking to challenge for playoffs. Lonzo, Bledsoe, Ingram, Zion, Adams, Reddick 6th man. Bledsoe in this role fits better for them than Randle would with Zion. Bledsoe is ideal as a 15-5-5 role players who can also space the floor.

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11/24/2020  3:03 PM
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Knixkik wrote:Would you guys trade Randle to New Orleans for Eric Bledsoe? He's going to make 16 mil a year for the next 3 years. He's not ideal, but much better than Payton.

Do not see Bledsoe changing much. If TT can get Randle back to down low presence and play some D, he will add more to our win total than Bledsoe. Imo. Randle is still a young player. He is physical and has a high offensive skill set. He was our top scorer and is tough to stop down low.
Fizdale was more to blame with how bad he looked. Trying to make his a PF was a joke. Feel TT will not let him do that will hopefully push him to play the physical game more.

We just made it past storm season, but we still need to play it safe. The cyclonic winds cause by Randle's spins can still do damage to the city's infrastructure.

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11/24/2020  7:33 PM
Best bet to trade Randle will be to a playoff team who needs a role player. Maybe because they lost a player to injury. Or just isnt performing. Its how we traded Morris.
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11/25/2020  5:58 PM
As us being a potential 3rd team in s&t for Batum - Celtics would get a trade exception, not sure if they can use it right away but Randle would fit in perfectly at Center for them (considering their low post threat Kantor signed with Portland)

Batum mentoring Frank is not a bad thing and he will be attached with draft picks. Expiring contract and we have the cap space, so why not??

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11/25/2020  6:14 PM
TLover wrote:As us being a potential 3rd team in s&t for Batum - Celtics would get a trade exception, not sure if they can use it right away but Randle would fit in perfectly at Center for them (considering their low post threat Kantor signed with Portland)

Batum mentoring Frank is not a bad thing and he will be attached with draft picks. Expiring contract and we have the cap space, so why not??

In what world is Randle a C? Tristan Thompson did sign a 2 year deal with Boston and they have Daniel Theis.

When you have a trade exception, you use it very wisely and make sure it's a player who you really want. Boston going to be over the cap and they can do MUCH better than Randle.

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11/25/2020  6:32 PM
martin wrote:
TLover wrote:As us being a potential 3rd team in s&t for Batum - Celtics would get a trade exception, not sure if they can use it right away but Randle would fit in perfectly at Center for them (considering their low post threat Kantor signed with Portland)

Batum mentoring Frank is not a bad thing and he will be attached with draft picks. Expiring contract and we have the cap space, so why not??

In what world is Randle a C? Tristan Thompson did sign a 2 year deal with Boston and they have Daniel Theis.

When you have a trade exception, you use it very wisely and make sure it's a player who you really want. Boston going to be over the cap and they can do MUCH better than Randle.


What you are forgetting, Randle played his best when by put at center.. he can rebound & score in the post better than most players in the nba.. Julius Randle is a much better player than Tristan Thompson & 25yrs old.

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11/25/2020  7:12 PM
TLover wrote:
martin wrote:
TLover wrote:As us being a potential 3rd team in s&t for Batum - Celtics would get a trade exception, not sure if they can use it right away but Randle would fit in perfectly at Center for them (considering their low post threat Kantor signed with Portland)

Batum mentoring Frank is not a bad thing and he will be attached with draft picks. Expiring contract and we have the cap space, so why not??

In what world is Randle a C? Tristan Thompson did sign a 2 year deal with Boston and they have Daniel Theis.

When you have a trade exception, you use it very wisely and make sure it's a player who you really want. Boston going to be over the cap and they can do MUCH better than Randle.


What you are forgetting, Randle played his best when by put at center.. he can rebound & score in the post better than most players in the nba.. Julius Randle is a much better player than Tristan Thompson & 25yrs old.

And? Maybe you convince Danny Ainge of that though it’ll fall on deaf ears cause he already signed Tristen

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11/25/2020  8:26 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Jonathon Macri said on his Knicks Film School podcast that a) he knew for a fact they're discussing moving on from Randle, also cryptically said something about them the starting PG for this season isn't on the team yet, or something like that. Then later in the podcast he again cryptically, carefully choosing his words said /hinted they're working on acquiring a player who can run the offense, that may not be a PG but would be pretty good at the 2, and then it wouldn't matter who's at PG.

Can anyone think of a SG who we could trade for who could be traded for (possibly for Randle) run the offense, and move RJ to the 3?

Only one I can think of is Bledsoe? Hope not! Buddy Hield? (can he run an offense?)

Was this recorded before or after signing Austin Rivers?

It would either be Oladipo or WB

But they pacers have no need whatsoever with Randle when they have Turner, Sabonis, Leaf and Tj warren.

They probably don't want to include draft picks because Dipo would be a UFA and could bounce at the end of the season.

The rockets probably want RJ plus future picks in any trade for WB or Harden


Westbrook is unlikely. They already passed on CP3 and Westbrook's cap hit is even longer. I think Ola was definitely a possible when Indiana still had a chance at Hayward. I don't know now.

The problem im having with not committing to anyone pass this season, is that most of the TOP FA next yr have player options and there is no reason to believe they will opt out to play with the knicks.

what I don't understand is How can you put your entire game plan on 2021 FA, when the franchise has zero history of attracting any free agents yr after yr.

You don’t understand is not from any effort by many to explain it to you.
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11/25/2020  9:16 PM
martin wrote:
TLover wrote:
martin wrote:
TLover wrote:As us being a potential 3rd team in s&t for Batum - Celtics would get a trade exception, not sure if they can use it right away but Randle would fit in perfectly at Center for them (considering their low post threat Kantor signed with Portland)

Batum mentoring Frank is not a bad thing and he will be attached with draft picks. Expiring contract and we have the cap space, so why not??

In what world is Randle a C? Tristan Thompson did sign a 2 year deal with Boston and they have Daniel Theis.

When you have a trade exception, you use it very wisely and make sure it's a player who you really want. Boston going to be over the cap and they can do MUCH better than Randle.


What you are forgetting, Randle played his best when by put at center.. he can rebound & score in the post better than most players in the nba.. Julius Randle is a much better player than Tristan Thompson & 25yrs old.

And? Maybe you convince Danny Ainge of that though it’ll fall on deaf ears cause he already signed Tristen


And no skin off my teeth in not doing business with the Celtics..
Just say’n, Randle on basically an expiring contract is not bad.

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11/26/2020  1:50 PM
martin wrote:
TLover wrote:As us being a potential 3rd team in s&t for Batum - Celtics would get a trade exception, not sure if they can use it right away but Randle would fit in perfectly at Center for them (considering their low post threat Kantor signed with Portland)

Batum mentoring Frank is not a bad thing and he will be attached with draft picks. Expiring contract and we have the cap space, so why not??

In what world is Randle a C? Tristan Thompson did sign a 2 year deal with Boston and they have Daniel Theis.

When you have a trade exception, you use it very wisely and make sure it's a player who you really want. Boston going to be over the cap and they can do MUCH better than Randle.

In today’s nba he’s a C. I’m not saying he’s a good C

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TLover wrote:
martin wrote:
TLover wrote:
martin wrote:
TLover wrote:As us being a potential 3rd team in s&t for Batum - Celtics would get a trade exception, not sure if they can use it right away but Randle would fit in perfectly at Center for them (considering their low post threat Kantor signed with Portland)

Batum mentoring Frank is not a bad thing and he will be attached with draft picks. Expiring contract and we have the cap space, so why not??

In what world is Randle a C? Tristan Thompson did sign a 2 year deal with Boston and they have Daniel Theis.

When you have a trade exception, you use it very wisely and make sure it's a player who you really want. Boston going to be over the cap and they can do MUCH better than Randle.


What you are forgetting, Randle played his best when by put at center.. he can rebound & score in the post better than most players in the nba.. Julius Randle is a much better player than Tristan Thompson & 25yrs old.

And? Maybe you convince Danny Ainge of that though it’ll fall on deaf ears cause he already signed Tristen


And no skin off my teeth in not doing business with the Celtics..
Just say’n, Randle on basically an expiring contract is not bad.

Randle is gone after this season. I just hope he handles coming off the bench well

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11/26/2020  6:22 PM
Randle would be an ideal 6th man at center.. he would feast on every team’s 2nd unit.
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11/27/2020  6:57 PM
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