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martin
Posts: 75974 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
11/24/2020 11:47 AM
Nalod wrote:Jmpasq wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy that'd gold Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27937 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
11/24/2020 4:15 PM
Uptown wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy Think despite his percentage he has good mechanics and can develop into a three point shooter. He is also a stretch due to his ability to handle the bball and create. Especially at 6'10". But you are right, if he cannot hit a three consistently he will struggle. Still feel his ceiling was higher than Toppin. But as mentioned, Happy with Toppin. Fact is, like many of these picks, Deni can reach a level between KP and Luca or between Weis and Jordan Hill. We shall see... 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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TPercy
Posts: 28010 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/5/2014 Member: #5748 |
11/24/2020 7:04 PM
Definitely not worried about Avija. Skilled guy, but not exactly what we need right now and the shooting concerns are legit. Wizards are a much better fit for him. Only guy I worry about passing up on is Haliburton but Toppin is still likely the better pick because if he can figure out how to stay on the court he'll be a great player and likely the best pick of the draft tbh. Haliburton at best to me will be a glorified George Hill with better passing.
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27937 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
12/13/2020 10:31 PM LAST EDITED: 12/13/2020 11:10 PM
Uptown wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy Watched his first game and as mentioned he has real good mechanics. 6 for 6 including and 3 for 3 from the 3point line. Obviously way way too early but do like his quick release and composure. Interesting to see him play off Westbrook. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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houston20
Posts: 20484 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/18/2019 Member: #8797 |
12/14/2020 1:01 AM
All these rookies are going to struggle this year because of this covid 19 season we can't expect these rookies 20 point scores right way its not happening especially this year. This season is so short for these rookies with no summer camp, no training camp, and a short preseason these rookies going to take them a couple years to get right.
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Uptown
Posts: 31285 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
12/14/2020 8:13 AM
HofstraBBall wrote:Uptown wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy Looked good...Playing with Westbrook will help him get lots of open looks. His biggest question coming into the draft was his 3-ball and freethrow shooting. So far good, but like you said its early. |
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Uptown
Posts: 31285 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
12/14/2020 8:15 AM
Toppin will look so much better the moment we get a pg that can get him some easy looks and take advantage of his open-court skills.
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27937 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
12/14/2020 9:31 AM LAST EDITED: 12/14/2020 9:34 AM
Uptown wrote:Toppin will look so much better the moment we get a pg that can get him some easy looks and take advantage of his open-court skills. Agreed. Still waiting for him to be more of a factor down low. Thought that I would see more of a post up game and bully ball from him. So far they have him set up as a stretch and putting up 3s. It's a long season/career though. Looking forward to him developing. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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smackeddog
Posts: 38389 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
12/14/2020 1:58 PM
Wizards should be fun to watch this season, I think
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wargames
Posts: 22833 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/27/2015 Member: #6053 |
12/14/2020 2:21 PM
smackeddog wrote:Wizards should be fun to watch this season, I think When is the last time we could say that about he knick? The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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TheGame
Posts: 26632 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/15/2006 Member: #1154 USA |
12/14/2020 2:38 PM LAST EDITED: 12/14/2020 2:40 PM
I looked at Avidja’s preseason game and he looks real good. If it were me, I would have taken the Avidja kid because he plays defense and Toppins’ defense still worries me. After seeing Toppin play, I still like Avidja better but I will not hate on the Knicks for taking Toppin. Toppin has some real skills too.
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ekstarks94
Posts: 21058 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/5/2015 Member: #6104 |
12/15/2020 10:47 PM
TheGame wrote:I looked at Avidja’s preseason game and he looks real good. If it were me, I would have taken the Avidja kid because he plays defense and Toppins’ defense still worries me. After seeing Toppin play, I still like Avidja better but I will not hate on the Knicks for taking Toppin. Toppin has some real skills too. If we got cp3 ....you would think it was Nash and Stat out there....Obi has so much skill and I feel he can be dominant eventually...I don’t feel like that with Deni...you switch the picks and Wiz chose Toppin....you would want him and not Deni... |
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39730 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
12/15/2020 11:42 PM
Uptown wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Uptown wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy He also looks like he's in better shape. Deni was still playing while other prospects were stuck doing workouts. The speed of the game may take a while for Deni to get used to, but I think he's had more of running start to the season than other prospects. I was a bit disappointed that we passed on Deni, but Obi has shown some good things. I'm not as upset as I was initially. Still like Obi over Hal. I really wanted Okoro, but that was out of the organizations control. Would take none over Cade or Suggs Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
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Panos
Posts: 30045 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2004 Member: #520 |
2/13/2021 12:23 AM
Luckily, Obi outscored Deni tonight or we'd not hear the end of it
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smackeddog
Posts: 38389 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
2/13/2021 5:18 AM
smackeddog wrote:Wizards should be fun to watch this season, I think LOL- never listen to me!😂 |
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42663 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
2/13/2021 8:36 AM
Still happy woth the Toppin pick. My only real concern was Obi's lack of lateral movement. He's showing a little more with each game that he can go around defenders. With or without the ball.
Get the feeling we're going to see a much more polished player next season. Not always the case with rookies (as we've seen) Obi looks like he's going to figure things out. This season or next. |
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Philc1
Posts: 28271 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
2/13/2021 8:41 AM
Panos wrote:Luckily, Obi outscored Deni tonight or we'd not hear the end of it I thought Avidja looked fine. His ceiling is a poor man’s Domantas Sabonis Still rather have Obi |
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wargames
Posts: 22833 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/27/2015 Member: #6053 |
2/13/2021 10:33 AM
Panos wrote:Luckily, Obi outscored Deni tonight or we'd not hear the end of it Yes...... The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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Nalod
Posts: 71036 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
2/13/2021 11:18 AM
The question is “Anyone think we We will regret.....”.......
Of course “Someone will”. Isn’t this one of the purpose of UK? Demonstrate hindsight brilliance and elevate our knick self esteems by trying to promote “Told you so”? And me, telling you that you told us so is so hypocritical and admiringly enjoyable that nothing but self-congratulatory statement will satisfy.  |