Funny though, most of us are not that excited about him either despite the SOLID rookie campaign. I saw some elite to the rim finish, good defense, and a great work ethic from a true 19 year old.
Fanbase shold me more hyped.

Nalod wrote:Many of us look at numbers per game as static. Some Rookies start strong then fade, and some finish strong. RJ FT's got better thru the season. You have to consider that vs. "he was not that good".
We don't get 10 game stats so we can see progress.
Do writers across the country "Hate" the knicks? Perhaps. Have we given them reason not to "love" us? Not really.
Not justifyable to leave him off and the worst part is the hard work he put in not recognized by the writers.
I really like his resiliancy demonstrated. Bad summer league start, thrown right into the fire as a rookie, bad FT%..........but the kid over came and improved.

Funny though, most of us are not that excited about him either despite the SOLID rookie campaign. I saw some elite to the rim finish, good defense, and a great work ethic from a true 19 year old.
Fanbase shold me more hyped.

RJ is a good foundational player to have in terms of building a roster. Versatile, core strength, high effort on both ends, young and with very good character. He is not the flashy, ultra-athletic or sharpshooter type of player that catches the eye of writers - especially ones not in this market. Nor was he on a good team. These types of things work against him in this type of vote....not even counting the anti-NY bias that may exist.

Philc1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

martin wrote:Thangs to look forward to. And hopefully with the extended break, shooting shooting shooting and skill will be polished

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RJ also dominated the All Rookie game at All Star Weekend

The bottom line numbers are not good 40%fg 32%3pt and 61%FT and his team in the lottery.

You think he should be rewarded for that effort?

Its also pretty dam ridiculous that zion played in just 24 games and was selected

A 19 year old averaging 14 and 5 is pretty good and worthy of all rookie team.

A shooting guard who really can shoot is nothing to be rewarded for..14 points taking 13+ shots..seriously dude, your only saying that because he's a knick, if he was on miami, boston, or any other team, you wouldn't have giving a rats ass and would have agreed with the journalist.

KnickDanger wrote:Trendy anti-Knicks bias, end of discussion.

you also have to consider where he was picked, had he put those numbers up as a 2nd rounder, that would have been more impressive.

Getting pick that high means higher expectations

ramtour420 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

franco12 wrote:I have no problem with this. I'm pissed off that with the third pick of the draft, we kinda got a marginal player.

I thought at the draft I would prefer RJ to Ja, and that if Ja fell, I'd feel like we lost out.

How wrong I was. We can talk about the BS with Fisdale, but somehow I

I have a feeling that if we had gotten Ja, he would have excelled.

We lack talent. We lack luck. I'm too old to sustain much passion for this messed up franchise.

Barrett is 19 and was in a bad situation. You put Ja here with half court players that can’t shoot and will get a similar result. The reality is Barrett wasn’t viewed as a marginal prospect prior to being drafted by the Knicks. He was the consensus #1 pick before Zion and Ja took off and would be the #1 pick in this draft based on success at Duke.

I think Ja would have made us a far better team than what RJ's impact was. I don't think RJ would have performed any better joining the Grizzlies instead of NY.

JA is simply a far better talent, and there is no reason to pretend otherwise.

We had all the assets to move up and thats why Mills goes down (IMO) as the worst GM/Pres in the HISTORY OF THE FRANCHISE. Simply because he had more to work with then any other president ever (cap space, high draft picks) and a young all star building block in KP... every move he made was LAME, not a single impressive move at all

Do you know if either were receptive to make a deal?
Do you even have any clue to if any calls were made to Memphis or you just pretending again?

Don't forget that they were going away from Conley or Lowry (don't remember which one), basically their starting PG of many years. They needed a replacement- enter Ja. But of course we have the worst management who fell asleep and did not trade up.

From what I recall they were super happy to draft JA and continue the process of rebuilding. They had traded Gasol at the prior years deadline to Toronto for the younger Valachuas.
Its always possible you can give the store away to move up. In hindsight its even easier.

Nalod wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

franco12 wrote:I have no problem with this. I'm pissed off that with the third pick of the draft, we kinda got a marginal player.

I thought at the draft I would prefer RJ to Ja, and that if Ja fell, I'd feel like we lost out.

How wrong I was. We can talk about the BS with Fisdale, but somehow I

I have a feeling that if we had gotten Ja, he would have excelled.

We lack talent. We lack luck. I'm too old to sustain much passion for this messed up franchise.

Barrett is 19 and was in a bad situation. You put Ja here with half court players that can’t shoot and will get a similar result. The reality is Barrett wasn’t viewed as a marginal prospect prior to being drafted by the Knicks. He was the consensus #1 pick before Zion and Ja took off and would be the #1 pick in this draft based on success at Duke.

I think Ja would have made us a far better team than what RJ's impact was. I don't think RJ would have performed any better joining the Grizzlies instead of NY.

JA is simply a far better talent, and there is no reason to pretend otherwise.

We had all the assets to move up and thats why Mills goes down (IMO) as the worst GM/Pres in the HISTORY OF THE FRANCHISE. Simply because he had more to work with then any other president ever (cap space, high draft picks) and a young all star building block in KP... every move he made was LAME, not a single impressive move at all

Do you know if either were receptive to make a deal?
Do you even have any clue to if any calls were made to Memphis or you just pretending again?

Don't forget that they were going away from Conley or Lowry (don't remember which one), basically their starting PG of many years. They needed a replacement- enter Ja. But of course we have the worst management who fell asleep and did not trade up.

From what I recall they were super happy to draft JA and continue the process of rebuilding. They had traded Gasol at the prior years deadline to Toronto for the younger Valachuas.
Its always possible you can give the store away to move up. In hindsight its even easier.