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knicks1248
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6/24/2020  9:28 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
smackeddog wrote:

Seems Wood isn’t as good a 3pt shooter as his overall percentage appears to show- can only hit wide open 3s (expect those to vanish once teams lock in on him)


Yep, that's why it's important to look at all the factors before you throw a max at a guy. How many wide open threes would Christian see on the Knicks?

Are you asking this because of the rest of the knicks roster?

You can't possible think this roster will look anything like last season, with 7 FA, a new coach, new prez and bunch of avg young talent.


True. But I'm being realistic. How much improvement do you think we can make this off-season. Not crapping on Woods. Don't love him like Briggs, but I recognize he's got talent. But I think the shooting numbers kinda confirm what a lot of us are thinking. He's more of complimentary piece along the lines of Randle than he is a max type player. Stick Woods in here with a max contract and I'm sure he'll the same type of hate as Randle.

We have a lot flexibility with a bunch of contracts that can easily be traded, multiple draft picks, a former agent as our president, we hired a guy who specializing in salary caps. So the idea of us over paying players or trading for bad contracts is very unlikely.

I think we can easily build a 45 to 50 win team this off season with the assets we have, and the relationships Leon has with players and other GMs/presidents around the NBA.

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6/24/2020  10:39 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
smackeddog wrote:

Seems Wood isn’t as good a 3pt shooter as his overall percentage appears to show- can only hit wide open 3s (expect those to vanish once teams lock in on him)


Yep, that's why it's important to look at all the factors before you throw a max at a guy. How many wide open threes would Christian see on the Knicks?

Are you asking this because of the rest of the knicks roster?

You can't possible think this roster will look anything like last season, with 7 FA, a new coach, new prez and bunch of avg young talent.


True. But I'm being realistic. How much improvement do you think we can make this off-season. Not crapping on Woods. Don't love him like Briggs, but I recognize he's got talent. But I think the shooting numbers kinda confirm what a lot of us are thinking. He's more of complimentary piece along the lines of Randle than he is a max type player. Stick Woods in here with a max contract and I'm sure he'll the same type of hate as Randle.

We have a lot flexibility with a bunch of contracts that can easily be traded, multiple draft picks, a former agent as our president, we hired a guy who specializing in salary caps. So the idea of us over paying players or trading for bad contracts is very unlikely.

I think we can easily build a 45 to 50 win team this off season with the assets we have, and the relationships Leon has with players and other GMs/presidents around the NBA.


Maybe, but not if we still keep Randle and overpay for a guy like Wood. Several pieces have to call into place first. And a 20 win jump (we where in place for 30 wins with Miller) usually take about two years if we continue developing at a normal pace. Basically, we need to have our studs in place first before we start making large financial commitments, or get said studs in trades.
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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6/24/2020  10:45 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
smackeddog wrote:

Seems Wood isn’t as good a 3pt shooter as his overall percentage appears to show- can only hit wide open 3s (expect those to vanish once teams lock in on him)


Yep, that's why it's important to look at all the factors before you throw a max at a guy. How many wide open threes would Christian see on the Knicks?

Are you asking this because of the rest of the knicks roster?

You can't possible think this roster will look anything like last season, with 7 FA, a new coach, new prez and bunch of avg young talent.


True. But I'm being realistic. How much improvement do you think we can make this off-season. Not crapping on Woods. Don't love him like Briggs, but I recognize he's got talent. But I think the shooting numbers kinda confirm what a lot of us are thinking. He's more of complimentary piece along the lines of Randle than he is a max type player. Stick Woods in here with a max contract and I'm sure he'll the same type of hate as Randle.

We have a lot flexibility with a bunch of contracts that can easily be traded, multiple draft picks, a former agent as our president, we hired a guy who specializing in salary caps. So the idea of us over paying players or trading for bad contracts is very unlikely.

I think we can easily build a 45 to 50 win team this off season with the assets we have, and the relationships Leon has with players and other GMs/presidents around the NBA.

Like it, so your implying we as fans have far brighter days ahead and have set the bar as a low to mid playoff team. Positive outlook - I believe BIG changes are coming To this roster in the near future. And not the typical Knick moves of the past, over paying past it vets, horrific contracts etc..

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6/24/2020  11:13 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
smackeddog wrote:

Seems Wood isn’t as good a 3pt shooter as his overall percentage appears to show- can only hit wide open 3s (expect those to vanish once teams lock in on him)


Yep, that's why it's important to look at all the factors before you throw a max at a guy. How many wide open threes would Christian see on the Knicks?

Are you asking this because of the rest of the knicks roster?

You can't possible think this roster will look anything like last season, with 7 FA, a new coach, new prez and bunch of avg young talent.


True. But I'm being realistic. How much improvement do you think we can make this off-season. Not crapping on Woods. Don't love him like Briggs, but I recognize he's got talent. But I think the shooting numbers kinda confirm what a lot of us are thinking. He's more of complimentary piece along the lines of Randle than he is a max type player. Stick Woods in here with a max contract and I'm sure he'll the same type of hate as Randle.

We have a lot flexibility with a bunch of contracts that can easily be traded, multiple draft picks, a former agent as our president, we hired a guy who specializing in salary caps. So the idea of us over paying players or trading for bad contracts is very unlikely.

I think we can easily build a 45 to 50 win team this off season with the assets we have, and the relationships Leon has with players and other GMs/presidents around the NBA.


Maybe, but not if we still keep Randle and overpay for a guy like Wood. Several pieces have to call into place first. And a 20 win jump (we where in place for 30 wins with Miller) usually take about two years if we continue developing at a normal pace. Basically, we need to have our studs in place first before we start making large financial commitments, or get said studs in trades.

I totally understand you being very pessimistic about over paying players, but Randle has one yr left on his contract, he's young and talented and really just a bad fit with this roster.

The only 2 people that will over pay for players is MILLS and PHIL, you can't assume that will continue to be the norm, definitley not with this FO, with william wes just been added. He's the SNOOP DOGG of the NBA, everybody loves and respects that guy

If Ingram wanted a fresh start in NY, it doesn't matter that he's a RFA, nobody is signing a guy that wants to move on. A S&T can easily be worked out

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6/24/2020  11:27 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/24/2020  11:29 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
smackeddog wrote:

Seems Wood isn’t as good a 3pt shooter as his overall percentage appears to show- can only hit wide open 3s (expect those to vanish once teams lock in on him)


Yep, that's why it's important to look at all the factors before you throw a max at a guy. How many wide open threes would Christian see on the Knicks?

Are you asking this because of the rest of the knicks roster?

You can't possible think this roster will look anything like last season, with 7 FA, a new coach, new prez and bunch of avg young talent.


True. But I'm being realistic. How much improvement do you think we can make this off-season. Not crapping on Woods. Don't love him like Briggs, but I recognize he's got talent. But I think the shooting numbers kinda confirm what a lot of us are thinking. He's more of complimentary piece along the lines of Randle than he is a max type player. Stick Woods in here with a max contract and I'm sure he'll the same type of hate as Randle.

That's my fear. In fact, I'd feel more comfortable signing Marcus Morris as our PF (on a reasonable deal) and his brother as backup PF/C- gives us nice 3pt shooting and defence at the 4 and 5

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6/24/2020  9:17 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
smackeddog wrote:

Seems Wood isn’t as good a 3pt shooter as his overall percentage appears to show- can only hit wide open 3s (expect those to vanish once teams lock in on him)


Yep, that's why it's important to look at all the factors before you throw a max at a guy. How many wide open threes would Christian see on the Knicks?

Man why would u want C wood taking more than 2-3 3s a game? The whole gig is he’s triple threat. Take a hard look at his efg

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BigDaddyG
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6/24/2020  11:15 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
smackeddog wrote:

Seems Wood isn’t as good a 3pt shooter as his overall percentage appears to show- can only hit wide open 3s (expect those to vanish once teams lock in on him)


Yep, that's why it's important to look at all the factors before you throw a max at a guy. How many wide open threes would Christian see on the Knicks?

Man why would u want C wood taking more than 2-3 3s a game? The whole gig is he’s triple threat. Take a hard look at his efg

Shooting is the teams biggest weakness. Mitch is the NBAs all-time leading FG% leader. We need guys who can bend opposing defense and open the lane, not clog it.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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7/1/2020  11:40 AM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/knicks-rumors-fred-vanvleet-a-potential-target-for-new-york/amp/

As per the above article, I’m an advocate for going after FVV, really depends on the contract and economics tho...

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