martin wrote:Depending on where the Knicks land their pick, I am now moving towards drafting Deni Avdija. Playmaker SF/G who has super high IQ, team first guy who just wants to win. Athletic but maybe not super dynamic. Needs to put on some weight if he is to become a SF/PF. If he gets his shot down, he will be a high potential guy.

May be cliche but he is more of a Euro type player that would fit right in with Frank, RJ, Mitch

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:Depending on where the Knicks land their pick, I am now moving towards drafting Deni Avdija. Playmaker SF/G who has super high IQ, team first guy who just wants to win. Athletic but maybe not super dynamic. Needs to put on some weight if he is to become a SF/PF. If he gets his shot down, he will be a high potential guy.

May be cliche but he is more of a Euro type player that would fit right in with Frank, RJ, Mitch

he looks great. Playing with grown men on a major club (with some familiar names) https://www.eurobasket.com/team//Maccabi_Fox_Tel-Aviv/159?Page=1
Dont know much about him but what I see looks great

Nate Wolters! Quincy!

martin wrote:I also wonder if this is Leon’s way of changing the conversation... if so kudos to him.

I mean, how does Isola break this?

Isola and Fat Berman did a simple google search for all the players Rose represents or represented.

Expect Covington, Jalen Brunson and Mike Conley articles.

As for Paul, hopefully it is BS. He can be had in 2022 for mid level or vets minimum. We can save the mentoring for then. This would be just another reversal of yet another assumed plan. A plan the allegedly was to garnish picks and save cap space for young max players in 2021. Hope its all like Isola's other breaking news. Fluff.

Would prefer using any major assets or cap space for those not over 35.

martin wrote:This was last week, right?

That for real? If it is, why??

Knick players who have worn #25

Milt Williams 1971
Jim Barnett 1975-1976
Bill Cartwright 1980-1988
Doc Rivers 1993-1995
David Wingate 1999
Erick Strickland 2001
Larry Robinson 2002
Moochie Norris 2004-2005
Mardy Collins 2007-2009
Cheikh Samb 2009
Timofey Mozgov 2011
Anthony Carter 2011
Derrick Rose 2017
Reggie Bullock 2020

Nalod wrote:

martin wrote:This was last week, right?

That for real? If it is, why??

Reggie Bullock 2020

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newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Uptown wrote:Chris Paul is one of my favorite players in the NBA but I would pass on this trade....Knicks should be in full rebuild mode, developing our young players and collecting assets. Paul would take a huge chunk out of our salary cap which would make us less flexible. Getting Paul here would no doubt cost us a 1st round pick. We should be in the business of collecting assets not moving them, at least not for a player who is past his prime. To make matters worse, I'm afraid that it stop with Paul.

With that said, the handwriting is on the wall. Strike out on KD and Kyrie so we fire Fiz, Mills,and Perry possibly on the chopping block. Dolan hires Rose because he has connections. This is the 4th year in a row that we have seen a decline in attendance. The circus is back in town and circling the garden. Dolan seems desperate, for the sake of the franchise, I hope I'm wrong.

we have been doing that since phil was hired, and have recorded two 17 win seasons, the worse ever for a franchise that's 50+ yr's old, and it's obvious development isn't the knicks strongest suite.

Mills was a disaster of epic proportions, so was Fizdale, and perry is below avg.

That isn't accurate and was one of the main critics oF Phil's tenure. The fact that he didn't commit to full rebuild and tried to do a half and half. Knicks didn't go full rebuild until Perry traded Melo in 2017.

What is a full rebuild, having a roster full of 20 yr old's to learn from each other.

Where have you ever seen that work, that only ensures you'll having losing season after losing season, which will lead to you to trading the same underwhelming draft picks, and you know how that movie ends
coaches getting fired

houston20 wrote:Lets be real here our young point guards are pretty bad even expensive 35 year old chris paul is 1 billion times better then dsj and frank combined. I would trade payton, portis, ellington, dsj, and clippers first round pick 2023 that would be my only offer take it or leave it.

You have three contracts that expire this season. no need to trade them. They expire and we can absorb Pauls contract. With SGA and 20 picks, OKC wants Dennis? Maybe so. Clippers first?
Funny thing is Im shocked they don't already have that pick, they have about all of them! LOL.
Its a salary dump to take him. I get it. Not even sure I want him for free.

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Uptown wrote:Chris Paul is one of my favorite players in the NBA but I would pass on this trade....Knicks should be in full rebuild mode, developing our young players and collecting assets. Paul would take a huge chunk out of our salary cap which would make us less flexible. Getting Paul here would no doubt cost us a 1st round pick. We should be in the business of collecting assets not moving them, at least not for a player who is past his prime. To make matters worse, I'm afraid that it stop with Paul.

With that said, the handwriting is on the wall. Strike out on KD and Kyrie so we fire Fiz, Mills,and Perry possibly on the chopping block. Dolan hires Rose because he has connections. This is the 4th year in a row that we have seen a decline in attendance. The circus is back in town and circling the garden. Dolan seems desperate, for the sake of the franchise, I hope I'm wrong.

we have been doing that since phil was hired, and have recorded two 17 win seasons, the worse ever for a franchise that's 50+ yr's old, and it's obvious development isn't the knicks strongest suite.

Mills was a disaster of epic proportions, so was Fizdale, and perry is below avg.

That isn't accurate and was one of the main critics oF Phil's tenure. The fact that he didn't commit to full rebuild and tried to do a half and half. Knicks didn't go full rebuild until Perry traded Melo in 2017.

What is a full rebuild, having a roster full of 20 yr old's to learn from each other.

Where have you ever seen that work, that only ensures you'll having losing season after losing season, which will lead to you to trading the same underwhelming draft picks, and you know how that movie ends
coaches getting fired

It working or not isn't the point of the reply. Phil Jackson's last yr in office he had Rose, Lee, Melo, KP, Noah, Jennings, Lance, Holiday, Willy, Baker as his roster. This goes counter to the claim that "we have been doing that since Phil was hired".

2018 Knicks won 29 games missing out at a shot at Luka with Kanter, KP, Hardaway jr, Lee, Jack, Beasley, Frank, Mcdermott, Thomas, O'Quin,(Mudiay).

The part I dissagree with toward Uptown is I still think adding Paul contributes to the rebuild. We still have 7 draft picks for the upcoming drafts to go with a lotto pick in this yrs draft. As well as Smith jr & Knox who are under contract as prospects. CP3 will probably be more valueable to us than the FAs we are able to realistically sign these next 2 yrs.

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Uptown wrote:Chris Paul is one of my favorite players in the NBA but I would pass on this trade....Knicks should be in full rebuild mode, developing our young players and collecting assets. Paul would take a huge chunk out of our salary cap which would make us less flexible. Getting Paul here would no doubt cost us a 1st round pick. We should be in the business of collecting assets not moving them, at least not for a player who is past his prime. To make matters worse, I'm afraid that it stop with Paul.

With that said, the handwriting is on the wall. Strike out on KD and Kyrie so we fire Fiz, Mills,and Perry possibly on the chopping block. Dolan hires Rose because he has connections. This is the 4th year in a row that we have seen a decline in attendance. The circus is back in town and circling the garden. Dolan seems desperate, for the sake of the franchise, I hope I'm wrong.

we have been doing that since phil was hired, and have recorded two 17 win seasons, the worse ever for a franchise that's 50+ yr's old, and it's obvious development isn't the knicks strongest suite.

Mills was a disaster of epic proportions, so was Fizdale, and perry is below avg.

That isn't accurate and was one of the main critics oF Phil's tenure. The fact that he didn't commit to full rebuild and tried to do a half and half. Knicks didn't go full rebuild until Perry traded Melo in 2017.

What is a full rebuild, having a roster full of 20 yr old's to learn from each other.

Where have you ever seen that work, that only ensures you'll having losing season after losing season, which will lead to you to trading the same underwhelming draft picks, and you know how that movie ends
coaches getting fired

It working or not isn't the point of the reply. Phil Jackson's last yr in office he had Rose, Lee, Melo, KP, Noah, Jennings, Lance, Holiday, Willy, Baker as his roster. This goes counter to the claim that "we have been doing that since Phil was hired".

2018 Knicks won 29 games missing out at a shot at Luka with Kanter, KP, Hardaway jr, Lee, Jack, Beasley, Frank, Mcdermott, Thomas, O'Quin,(Mudiay).

The part I dissagree with toward Uptown is I still think adding Paul contributes to the rebuild. We still have 7 draft picks for the upcoming drafts to go with a lotto pick in this yrs draft. As well as Smith jr & Knox who are under contract as prospects. CP3 will probably be more valueable to us than the FAs we are able to realistically sign these next 2 yrs.

What is the price to get CP3? Picks? Players? For 40mil who are you not able to sign? WHo are you not able to trade for? Few dispute the notion CP3 would be good.
Also, does he even want to be here?

martin wrote:I also wonder if this is Leon’s way of changing the conversation... if so kudos to him.

I mean, how does Isola break this?

I win

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Sambakick wrote:If the season ends, thats a lot of revenue the NBA doesn't get. The Salary cap already was projected to decrease 3% or so due to Morey's tweet. Now Covid could end it and lop off another 20%.

Huge implications to the cap and league finances.

Also- do you play the remaining games? Do you have a post season? If not how do you decide the draft order? How do you do the draft?

Think Windhurst said the league might use it as an opportunity to move the start of the NBA season to December (which some have wanted to do for a while).

This thing is here for months and is likely to get much much worse- tough to see what the solution is for the NBA