knicks1248 wrote:I think the 2 best trades that (everyone hated at first) was starks for spree, and Oak for Camby.

I know one thing is for certain, the next regime will trade most of our young guys.

knicks1248 wrote:I think the 2 best trades that (everyone hated at first) was starks for spree, and Oak for Camby.

I know one thing is for certain, the next regime will trade most of our young guys.

Was ambivalent about Spree, because I knew about his coach's rep at the time. Became one of my favorite all time Knicks. Even by today's standards, a high octane league. Spree was relentlesss. Attacked the rim like it was personal.

After 94', lets just say I was more open to trading Starks, wasnt in a hurry either. My concern with Camby was how easily he got hurt. Also gave us some great moments. Oak was getting on in years.

The only players I consider untradeable is Barrett and Mitch at this point. Dont believe any exec would move them so soon. Not when they're showing so much already. Mitch's foul troubles, and Barrett's improving FT shooting aside. Not worth trading for a lotto pick, not worth trading with all that cap room.

Not in a hurry to see any of the younger players traded. Dont believe a new front office will either. We have some good young players, on cheap contracts, and plenty of cap room. Guessing the next exec will build through the draft, trade any younger player who hasnt panned out. Work around the edges until the next big FA class.

NYKBocker wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I think the 2 best trades that (everyone hated at first) was starks for spree, and Oak for Camby.

I know one thing is for certain, the next regime will trade most of our young guys.

Was ambivalent about Spree, because I knew about his coach's rep at the time. Became one of my favorite all time Knicks. Even by today's standards, a high octane league. Spree was relentlesss. Attacked the rim like it was personal.

After 94', lets just say I was more open to trading Starks, wasnt in a hurry either. My concern with Camby was how easily he got hurt. Also gave us some great moments. Oak was getting on in years.

The only players I consider untradeable is Barrett and Mitch at this point. Dont believe any exec would move them so soon. Not when they're showing so much already. Mitch's foul troubles, and Barrett's improving FT shooting aside. Not worth trading for a lotto pick, not worth trading with all that cap room.

Not in a hurry to see any of the younger players traded. Dont believe a new front office will either. We have some good young players, on cheap contracts, and plenty of cap room. Guessing the next exec will build through the draft, trade any younger player who hasnt panned out. Work around the edges until the next big FA class.

My untouchables are RJ, Mitch, Frank.

Trier and Dotson I would like to stay but they can be moved if needed to get the players mentioned below traded.

Knox is too much of a space cadet for me. I hope he gets it.

Randle and DSJr needs to be traded. The others can be collateral damage and packaged with them to get the deal done.

I'm pretty much here.

I would say it's hard to get a take on Trier because of his lack of playing time but it seems like we can guess that out. And I'm down on Dot; I get that he may need time to get his shooting rhythm but he is making the same mistakes on D as he has the last 2 years, easily fixable stuff and yet no change.

For me Mitch needs to take a good step next year. Frank has plodded along and needs to continue that and continue to work on shooting.

NYKBocker wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I think the 2 best trades that (everyone hated at first) was starks for spree, and Oak for Camby.

I know one thing is for certain, the next regime will trade most of our young guys.

Was ambivalent about Spree, because I knew about his coach's rep at the time. Became one of my favorite all time Knicks. Even by today's standards, a high octane league. Spree was relentlesss. Attacked the rim like it was personal.

After 94', lets just say I was more open to trading Starks, wasnt in a hurry either. My concern with Camby was how easily he got hurt. Also gave us some great moments. Oak was getting on in years.

The only players I consider untradeable is Barrett and Mitch at this point. Dont believe any exec would move them so soon. Not when they're showing so much already. Mitch's foul troubles, and Barrett's improving FT shooting aside. Not worth trading for a lotto pick, not worth trading with all that cap room.

Not in a hurry to see any of the younger players traded. Dont believe a new front office will either. We have some good young players, on cheap contracts, and plenty of cap room. Guessing the next exec will build through the draft, trade any younger player who hasnt panned out. Work around the edges until the next big FA class.

My untouchables are RJ, Mitch, Frank.

Trier and Dotson I would like to stay but they can be moved if needed to get the players mentioned below traded.

Knox is too much of a space cadet for me. I hope he gets it.

Randle and DSJr needs to be traded. The others can be collateral damage and packaged with them to get the deal done.

I am in general agreement.

I do think KK will come around though. He needs a defined role. I feel that will help a lot.

Randle i think can play better. Wouldn't cry if he was traded. If he stays, his role needs to change -- less dribbling

I was never a fan of DSJ. I want him to do well because he's a Knick, but that sulking crap is a major turn off. My suspicion is his back or something else is hurting and that's why we're seeing less explosiveness. DSJ without explosion is "meh minus". If he's not hurt I'm even more jaundiced

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I think the 2 best trades that (everyone hated at first) was starks for spree, and Oak for Camby.

I know one thing is for certain, the next regime will trade most of our young guys.

Was ambivalent about Spree, because I knew about his coach's rep at the time. Became one of my favorite all time Knicks. Even by today's standards, a high octane league. Spree was relentlesss. Attacked the rim like it was personal.

After 94', lets just say I was more open to trading Starks, wasnt in a hurry either. My concern with Camby was how easily he got hurt. Also gave us some great moments. Oak was getting on in years.

The only players I consider untradeable is Barrett and Mitch at this point. Dont believe any exec would move them so soon. Not when they're showing so much already. Mitch's foul troubles, and Barrett's improving FT shooting aside. Not worth trading for a lotto pick, not worth trading with all that cap room.

Not in a hurry to see any of the younger players traded. Dont believe a new front office will either. We have some good young players, on cheap contracts, and plenty of cap room. Guessing the next exec will build through the draft, trade any younger player who hasnt panned out. Work around the edges until the next big FA class.

My untouchables are RJ, Mitch, Frank.

Trier and Dotson I would like to stay but they can be moved if needed to get the players mentioned below traded.

Knox is too much of a space cadet for me. I hope he gets it.

Randle and DSJr needs to be traded. The others can be collateral damage and packaged with them to get the deal done.

I'm pretty much here.

I would say it's hard to get a take on Trier because of his lack of playing time but it seems like we can guess that out. And I'm down on Dot; I get that he may need time to get his shooting rhythm but he is making the same mistakes on D as he has the last 2 years, easily fixable stuff and yet no change.

For me Mitch needs to take a good step next year. Frank has plodded along and needs to continue that and continue to work on shooting.

I'm so done with Knox It's not even funny..

I see TIM THOMAS all over this kid, the potential to be really good, but his motor issues and LOW ass IQ seems like a long process to fix. He's not even mad at himself when he misses a defensive rotation.

we'll be lucky if Knox turns into Tim Thomas - 12 years of NBA play!

The issue is expectations. Tim Thomas was a fine NBA player. He wasn't a franchise changing talent.

And how do you know whether Knox is angry at himself?

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I think the 2 best trades that (everyone hated at first) was starks for spree, and Oak for Camby.

I know one thing is for certain, the next regime will trade most of our young guys.

Was ambivalent about Spree, because I knew about his coach's rep at the time. Became one of my favorite all time Knicks. Even by today's standards, a high octane league. Spree was relentlesss. Attacked the rim like it was personal.

After 94', lets just say I was more open to trading Starks, wasnt in a hurry either. My concern with Camby was how easily he got hurt. Also gave us some great moments. Oak was getting on in years.

The only players I consider untradeable is Barrett and Mitch at this point. Dont believe any exec would move them so soon. Not when they're showing so much already. Mitch's foul troubles, and Barrett's improving FT shooting aside. Not worth trading for a lotto pick, not worth trading with all that cap room.

Not in a hurry to see any of the younger players traded. Dont believe a new front office will either. We have some good young players, on cheap contracts, and plenty of cap room. Guessing the next exec will build through the draft, trade any younger player who hasnt panned out. Work around the edges until the next big FA class.

My untouchables are RJ, Mitch, Frank.

Trier and Dotson I would like to stay but they can be moved if needed to get the players mentioned below traded.

Knox is too much of a space cadet for me. I hope he gets it.

Randle and DSJr needs to be traded. The others can be collateral damage and packaged with them to get the deal done.

I'm pretty much here.

I would say it's hard to get a take on Trier because of his lack of playing time but it seems like we can guess that out. And I'm down on Dot; I get that he may need time to get his shooting rhythm but he is making the same mistakes on D as he has the last 2 years, easily fixable stuff and yet no change.

For me Mitch needs to take a good step next year. Frank has plodded along and needs to continue that and continue to work on shooting.

I'm so done with Knox It's not even funny..

I see TIM THOMAS all over this kid, the potential to be really good, but his motor issues and LOW ass IQ seems like a long process to fix. He's not even mad at himself when he misses a defensive rotation.

Your the poster child for why NY fans can’t handle a future unless its a starphuch.
Your done? A year and 20 games and your done with a 20 year old?