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martin
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12/8/2019  10:41 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Wooten looks like a keeper. Hopefully a roster spot opens up for him.

Hopefully. Hope he can also develop into a basketball player and not just an athletic freak who dominates on physicality alone. We all are seeing Mitch and DSJr

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12/9/2019  6:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/9/2019  6:26 AM
Uptown wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:One player to pay close attention to is Terry Rozier. I can definitely see our Front Office make a play for him. He was on the Knicks radar last summer before he was traded for Kemba Walker and I read somewhere that he really wanted to come here.

Graham has exploded on the scene and his play may make Rozier and his contract expendable. Factor in DSJ is from North Carolina, and Jordan is the one calling the shots, it kind of makes sense why both front offices will think about this trade. Of course, we would have to include another player or a give them back one of their second round picks.

Rozier wanted to be Knicks player, he has talked about it publicly. My guess is that he also tried to express that during free agency last year when the Knicks could have gotten him for free but opted not to. Not sure why Knicks FO would revisit this

I want no parts of Rozier....My hopes are that any trades that we make going forward is to collect assets (picks and or young players on very short deals). With that said, our pg situation has been a weak spot all year. I'm saying it will happen, but wouldn't be surprised if one front office approaches the other...

Randle for Rozier works perfect Money wise... one for one. Knicks need the scoring boost at guard. We gave excess at forward. Trade Randle, slide Morris promote either Trier or Knox to a starter and give Portis more minutes

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12/9/2019  9:28 AM
EnySpree wrote:
Uptown wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:One player to pay close attention to is Terry Rozier. I can definitely see our Front Office make a play for him. He was on the Knicks radar last summer before he was traded for Kemba Walker and I read somewhere that he really wanted to come here.

Graham has exploded on the scene and his play may make Rozier and his contract expendable. Factor in DSJ is from North Carolina, and Jordan is the one calling the shots, it kind of makes sense why both front offices will think about this trade. Of course, we would have to include another player or a give them back one of their second round picks.

Rozier wanted to be Knicks player, he has talked about it publicly. My guess is that he also tried to express that during free agency last year when the Knicks could have gotten him for free but opted not to. Not sure why Knicks FO would revisit this

I want no parts of Rozier....My hopes are that any trades that we make going forward is to collect assets (picks and or young players on very short deals). With that said, our pg situation has been a weak spot all year. I'm saying it will happen, but wouldn't be surprised if one front office approaches the other...

Randle for Rozier works perfect Money wise... one for one. Knicks need the scoring boost at guard. We gave excess at forward. Trade Randle, slide Morris promote either Trier or Knox to a starter and give Portis more minutes

I think Hornets like their 2 PG combination. Mix in the 2 young upcoming forwards of Bridges and Washington and thats a nice little nucleous they have there. Their interest in Randle would be to dump a Bismack or MKG contract. And hope the prodcution upgrade would turn into a playoff picture. We would of course require their first round draft pick which would probably be top 10 if not lotto protected for the 2020 draft.

On the flip side with 3 future draft picks from other teams. That can possibly be manuevered to land a better fitting piece and talent upgrade.

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12/9/2019  9:59 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
Uptown wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:One player to pay close attention to is Terry Rozier. I can definitely see our Front Office make a play for him. He was on the Knicks radar last summer before he was traded for Kemba Walker and I read somewhere that he really wanted to come here.

Graham has exploded on the scene and his play may make Rozier and his contract expendable. Factor in DSJ is from North Carolina, and Jordan is the one calling the shots, it kind of makes sense why both front offices will think about this trade. Of course, we would have to include another player or a give them back one of their second round picks.

Rozier wanted to be Knicks player, he has talked about it publicly. My guess is that he also tried to express that during free agency last year when the Knicks could have gotten him for free but opted not to. Not sure why Knicks FO would revisit this

I want no parts of Rozier....My hopes are that any trades that we make going forward is to collect assets (picks and or young players on very short deals). With that said, our pg situation has been a weak spot all year. I'm saying it will happen, but wouldn't be surprised if one front office approaches the other...

Randle for Rozier works perfect Money wise... one for one. Knicks need the scoring boost at guard. We gave excess at forward. Trade Randle, slide Morris promote either Trier or Knox to a starter and give Portis more minutes

I think Hornets like their 2 PG combination. Mix in the 2 young upcoming forwards of Bridges and Washington and thats a nice little nucleous they have there. Their interest in Randle would be to dump a Bismack or MKG contract. And hope the prodcution upgrade would turn into a playoff picture. We would of course require their first round draft pick which would probably be top 10 if not lotto protected for the 2020 draft.

On the flip side with 3 future draft picks from other teams. That can possibly be manuevered to land a better fitting piece and talent upgrade.


I think the reason Terry is succeeding now is because he really isn't a point guard. He doesn't have to worry so much about creating for himself and others. I don't see the need to trade for him until we see what Trier has first.
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12/9/2019  12:55 PM
Does Hornets really see Rozier as a bust after less than 25 games?
Not all teams are creak head impulsive panic induced Rainmanian reflex anxiety reactive types.
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12/9/2019  1:47 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
Uptown wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:One player to pay close attention to is Terry Rozier. I can definitely see our Front Office make a play for him. He was on the Knicks radar last summer before he was traded for Kemba Walker and I read somewhere that he really wanted to come here.

Graham has exploded on the scene and his play may make Rozier and his contract expendable. Factor in DSJ is from North Carolina, and Jordan is the one calling the shots, it kind of makes sense why both front offices will think about this trade. Of course, we would have to include another player or a give them back one of their second round picks.

Rozier wanted to be Knicks player, he has talked about it publicly. My guess is that he also tried to express that during free agency last year when the Knicks could have gotten him for free but opted not to. Not sure why Knicks FO would revisit this

I want no parts of Rozier....My hopes are that any trades that we make going forward is to collect assets (picks and or young players on very short deals). With that said, our pg situation has been a weak spot all year. I'm saying it will happen, but wouldn't be surprised if one front office approaches the other...

Randle for Rozier works perfect Money wise... one for one. Knicks need the scoring boost at guard. We gave excess at forward. Trade Randle, slide Morris promote either Trier or Knox to a starter and give Portis more minutes

I think Hornets like their 2 PG combination. Mix in the 2 young upcoming forwards of Bridges and Washington and thats a nice little nucleous they have there. Their interest in Randle would be to dump a Bismack or MKG contract. And hope the prodcution upgrade would turn into a playoff picture. We would of course require their first round draft pick which would probably be top 10 if not lotto protected for the 2020 draft.

On the flip side with 3 future draft picks from other teams. That can possibly be manuevered to land a better fitting piece and talent upgrade.


I think the reason Terry is succeeding now is because he really isn't a point guard. He doesn't have to worry so much about creating for himself and others. I don't see the need to trade for him until we see what Trier has first.

From when we drafted Frank. I felt the team should have looked to collect players that could guard their positons, shoot the catch and shoot 3, and put the ball on the floor to create a little for their teammates. Which is why I felt SGA should have been targeted at the draft. Should have also looked harder at Brogden to go along with the RJ pick. Rolling out about 5 deep with SGA,Brogden,Barrett,Frank,Dotson. Thought Randle was better at creating than he displayed here so far. But its very possible with that collection of guards and wings. Him working as a finisher and creater on the back end with the extra pass. Would be a better fit, granted his defense wouldn't be ideal.

With another premium draft pick likely and cap space again likely. This should be the blueprint they should look to follow imo. If we are lucky enough to net Anthony Edwards and target VanVleet as a FA.

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12/10/2019  8:40 PM
dacash wrote:Try and pry markennan away from the bulls with randle and a Dallas first rounder

Why, do the Bulls need a good laugh?
Randle is untradeable his contract is one of the worst in the league

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12/10/2019  9:00 PM
Jmpasq wrote:
dacash wrote:Try and pry markennan away from the bulls with randle and a Dallas first rounder

Why, do the Bulls need a good laugh?
Randle is untradeable his contract is one of the worst in the league

Randle has a good contract, a two deal with the first year a quarter gone . Are u serious??

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12/10/2019  9:11 PM
Jmpasq wrote:
dacash wrote:Try and pry markennan away from the bulls with randle and a Dallas first rounder

Why, do the Bulls need a good laugh?
Randle is untradeable his contract is one of the worst in the league

It seems like Miller is going to use Randle differently. Just one game but he looked a lot better and there are reports that Miller was confronting him on the bench during the game about his play. He isn't the best fit with the roster but I think his trade value will go up under Miller. Also, his deal is only guaranteed for two years. The third year is a partial guarantee but I don't know for how much.
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12/11/2019  6:00 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/11/2019  6:01 AM
dacash wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
dacash wrote:Try and pry markennan away from the bulls with randle and a Dallas first rounder

Why, do the Bulls need a good laugh?
Randle is untradeable his contract is one of the worst in the league

Randle has a good contract, a two deal with the first year a quarter gone . Are u serious??


Yes I'm serious who the hell wants to pay him 20 million next year? Plus there is a buy out for 4 million in the 3rd year. You guys are overrating him he is a dinosaur for todays game no one will see him as an asset
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12/11/2019  8:50 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
dacash wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
dacash wrote:Try and pry markennan away from the bulls with randle and a Dallas first rounder

Why, do the Bulls need a good laugh?
Randle is untradeable his contract is one of the worst in the league

Randle has a good contract, a two deal with the first year a quarter gone . Are u serious??


Yes I'm serious who the hell wants to pay him 20 million next year? Plus there is a buy out for 4 million in the 3rd year. You guys are overrating him he is a dinosaur for todays game no one will see him as an asset

Look at his stats before he came here, when he was used the right way and you'll possible see why I think he was 22 and 8 .
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12/11/2019  8:51 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/11/2019  8:52 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
dacash wrote:Try and pry markennan away from the bulls with randle and a Dallas first rounder

Why, do the Bulls need a good laugh?
Randle is untradeable his contract is one of the worst in the league

Markennan SUUUUUCKS the only reason you think he doesn't is because he always has good games against the knicks.

He is shooting just as bad as frank (if not worse) his defense is terrible, can't rebound or block shots, he is slow AF, missed 30 games last season with all sorts of injuries (played like 52 games), and had a brutal start to the season.

He make randles look like an MVP..are you kidding me, he's a 7 foot Knox

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12/15/2019  3:57 AM
Sexton anybody?
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12/15/2019  8:15 AM
EnySpree wrote:Sexton anybody?

No TY.

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12/15/2019  8:41 AM
Lakers success is very much due to Danny Green being an even better version of himself with Lebron.
Kuzma does not shoot good enough in a role of stretch 4.
Lakers need Morris more than Kuzma. Its a win now trade. ITs a chemistry thing. Morris can shoot the long ball better than Kuzma. I’m not factoring the salary differential.
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12/15/2019  1:33 PM
Nalod wrote:Does Hornets really see Rozier as a bust after less than 25 games?
Not all teams are creak head impulsive panic induced Rainmanian reflex anxiety reactive types.
Sorry if I offended any creak heads out there!

It's not that they'd see him as a bust, it's just that their second year PG has been way way better than they ever thought so they can get rid of Rozier and get another position filled instead. I don't want him at all but I fear Mills might go for him as they wanted him in free agency.

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12/15/2019  2:27 PM
Do you trade Rozier for Randle tho? Who has more long term value?

I could see Julius being a useful 6th man down the line.

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12/15/2019  3:24 PM
TPercy wrote:Do you trade Rozier for Randle tho? Who has more long term value?

I could see Julius being a useful 6th man down the line.

So that we would have 4 PGs on the roster?

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12/15/2019  4:20 PM
TPercy wrote:Do you trade Rozier for Randle tho? Who has more long term value?

I could see Julius being a useful 6th man down the line.

Nope! Rozier would be another inefficient PG plus has a 3 year contract and is overplayed. EhT happens if we draft a PG?

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12/15/2019  6:13 PM
martin wrote:
TPercy wrote:Do you trade Rozier for Randle tho? Who has more long term value?

I could see Julius being a useful 6th man down the line.

So that we would have 4 PGs on the roster?

I'm giving them DSJ aswell in return for a 2nd rounder if this trade is done. I'm not even saying that I'm onboard with it but I think that there are trades out there that could make us better off even marginally.

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