NYKBocker wrote:Both guys are improving. You improve during the off season. I tell my players during the off season, pick something you are weak at and improve on them.

Knox improved on his upper body strength and perimeter shooting. You can see it when he rebounds and his shooting percentage.

Mitch improved on his FT shooting. He looks good and it shows.

These are you guys. Not finished products. 1 had 1 year in college and the other went from HS to working out himself to getting drafted. They are doing well and they will get better

NYKBocker wrote:Both guys are improving. You improve during the off season. I tell my players during the off season, pick something you are weak at and improve on them.

Knox improved on his upper body strength and perimeter shooting. You can see it when he rebounds and his shooting percentage.

Mitch improved on his FT shooting. He looks good and it shows.

These are you guys. Not finished products. 1 had 1 year in college and the other went from HS to working out himself to getting drafted. They are doing well and they will get better

For me Mitch didn't improve enough. FT aside, what has changed?

Instead of a trainer, Mitch needs a fundamentals coach, and he has a lot to unlearn

Chandler wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:Both guys are improving. You improve during the off season. I tell my players during the off season, pick something you are weak at and improve on them.

Knox improved on his upper body strength and perimeter shooting. You can see it when he rebounds and his shooting percentage.

Mitch improved on his FT shooting. He looks good and it shows.

These are you guys. Not finished products. 1 had 1 year in college and the other went from HS to working out himself to getting drafted. They are doing well and they will get better

For me Mitch didn't improve enough. FT aside, what has changed?

Instead of a trainer, Mitch needs a fundamentals coach, and he has a lot to unlearn

Was he rolling to the hoop like this last year?

he had his best moments when Deandre was here, and when Kerry Kittles was telling him to play D with his feet. I like him a lot but he does need a big man coach -- do we have one on the CS?

Jmpasq wrote:

TPercy wrote:I think Knox will be a great player we can rely on off the bench.

Great we won 29 games and watched horrible basketball for year to get a bench player. If thats the best we can do from the draft we should just trade all are picks because we will never turn it around We should Hinkie this thing util we get real buildig blocks

YOu might want to revisit the path Hinkie took to get to where they got to. It was brutal.
Took a new owner with deep pockets to formulate that strategy. Hinkie did what he did because his owner instructed him. Knicks and its fan base could not handle double back process.
At its worst the league had to step in and instruct Philly ownership to ramp it up a bit. Hinkie was the fall guy. They stayed true to a plan. Restep what they did and understand the patience it required. They also wanted to run him out of town. I don’t know how knicks process will go but at its depths 6er’s looked pretty bleak.

Nalod wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

TPercy wrote:I think Knox will be a great player we can rely on off the bench.

Great we won 29 games and watched horrible basketball for year to get a bench player. If thats the best we can do from the draft we should just trade all are picks because we will never turn it around We should Hinkie this thing util we get real buildig blocks

YOu might want to revisit the path Hinkie took to get to where they got to. It was brutal.
Took a new owner with deep pockets to formulate that strategy. Hinkie did what he did because his owner instructed him. Knicks and its fan base could not handle double back process.
At its worst the league had to step in and instruct Philly ownership to ramp it up a bit. Hinkie was the fall guy. They stayed true to a plan. Restep what they did and understand the patience it required. They also wanted to run him out of town. I don’t know how knicks process will go but at its depths 6er’s looked pretty bleak.

I don't think we have to go that far- but the sentiment is right- we need to find a franchise talent.

And funnily enough, we shouldn't have really made all the signings we did and tried to tank it the right way.

But then those signings have worked wonderfully as far as the Tank is concerned.

franco12 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

TPercy wrote:I think Knox will be a great player we can rely on off the bench.

Great we won 29 games and watched horrible basketball for year to get a bench player. If thats the best we can do from the draft we should just trade all are picks because we will never turn it around We should Hinkie this thing util we get real buildig blocks

YOu might want to revisit the path Hinkie took to get to where they got to. It was brutal.
Took a new owner with deep pockets to formulate that strategy. Hinkie did what he did because his owner instructed him. Knicks and its fan base could not handle double back process.
At its worst the league had to step in and instruct Philly ownership to ramp it up a bit. Hinkie was the fall guy. They stayed true to a plan. Restep what they did and understand the patience it required. They also wanted to run him out of town. I don’t know how knicks process will go but at its depths 6er’s looked pretty bleak.

I don't think we have to go that far- but the sentiment is right- we need to find a franchise talent.

And funnily enough, we shouldn't have really made all the signings we did and tried to tank it the right way.

But then those signings have worked wonderfully as far as the Tank is concerned.

Tank? This is a journey to the center of hell.

Knixkik wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

TPercy wrote:I think Knox will be a great player we can rely on off the bench.

Great we won 29 games and watched horrible basketball for year to get a bench player. If thats the best we can do from the draft we should just trade all are picks because we will never turn it around We should Hinkie this thing util we get real buildig blocks

YOu might want to revisit the path Hinkie took to get to where they got to. It was brutal.
Took a new owner with deep pockets to formulate that strategy. Hinkie did what he did because his owner instructed him. Knicks and its fan base could not handle double back process.
At its worst the league had to step in and instruct Philly ownership to ramp it up a bit. Hinkie was the fall guy. They stayed true to a plan. Restep what they did and understand the patience it required. They also wanted to run him out of town. I don’t know how knicks process will go but at its depths 6er’s looked pretty bleak.

I don't think we have to go that far- but the sentiment is right- we need to find a franchise talent.

And funnily enough, we shouldn't have really made all the signings we did and tried to tank it the right way.

But then those signings have worked wonderfully as far as the Tank is concerned.

Barrett absolutely is a franchise talent. The question is can we put the infrastructure in place to develop him as such like Toronto did with Siakam. Barrett is more talented than Siakam and has done things only done by lebron at age 19.

houston20 wrote:The problem with knox and robinson one can't play defense and the other one can't be on the court because one commits stupid fouls for no reason.I don't its fizdale being a problem for knox and robinson its them if they want playing time they got stop playing lazy.

That’s just youth. The weaknesses will be there for a few years.

Nalod wrote:

houston20 wrote:

anrst wrote:Won’t take long til Barret realizes what Porzingis figured out

The problem with barret and what's holding him back his free throwing shooting he missed 5 free throws last night. No guard can shoot 52 percent from the free throw line he can't be nick anderson barret. I have bad feeling if we ever become good and rj barret has nick anderson moment in a finals game they would destroy him like it did nick anderson in 1995 and never became same player after that.

Finals? We talking Finals!!!!
RJ to become all he can be, and lead us to the finals will have solved his FT' dilemma.
I think a good comp might be Simmons on Philly, kid is a phenom max player. A career 58% FT shooter but up to 61% this year.
A liability actually.. He shoots 55% from the floor mostly close to the rim. We know all bout his 3pt range!!!!
Not the same player. Simmons is a "john wall" type without the shot.