Vmart wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Vmart wrote:arkrud wrote:TripleThreat wrote:Vmart wrote:Lets just cut to the chase and fire Fizdale already and give Miller the job. No one wants to say anything about how awful a coach Fizdale is. The guy is out and out a hack.
If you keep churning coaches, no one will want the job. This happened to the Cleveland Browns.
I'm not saying Fizdale is the right choice, I am saying if you keep whacking guys after a season, it's unstable for the entire team and situation.
Yes, sometimes guys get clipped after just one year. But you have to really really think hard even when the coach is a real dog. It's also very very hard on young players as well.
Alex Smith with the 49ers is a test case for this situation. He got so much churn around him, it was difficult to evaluate him as a player because he had zero stability.
Be fair to Fizdale. He got a roster full of retreads and guy wanting a new contract and a broken down roster. He might very well be a suck ass coach, but you have to at least give him a 2nd year to see what happens.
Firing Fizdale now does NOT get you a better coach in return. It pretty much prevents it. Sucks I know, but this is how it works.
Vmart just get some thought stuck in his head and it cycling endlessly.
This happened when live sucks for reasons uncontrollable by you.
So man need to find some explanation and put a blame on somebody.
Team will start doing good and all will be forgotten...
Your absolutely correct. The thought of firing Fizdale is stuck in my head. You probably own a business Arkrud and I have owned businesses in my lifetime and the hardest thing to do is to fire someone. Because they have no guaranteed contracts. Here I am nothing to lose asking for Fizdale’s firing. I am not saying fire him for the sake of firing him. I’m firing him because of his negligence. There is a lot to be desired. You can’t hide behind the skirt of tanking and not teach and implement a system.
You don’t go around throwing what you have under the bus asking for better players Fizdale has done this numerous times. He is looking for a gift that Miami got through free agency to make him look good. What would really look good is if he could get these young players to play as a team. At no point during last season did anyone feel this team was coming together. What some Knicks fans are doing is allowing the tank to justify Fizdale’s incompetence as a coach.
I’m going to put this down right now. By January most everyone will be clamoring for him to be fired. Even if the Knicks sign top tier free agents.
As a business owner you must know that it takes time to get new employees up to speed. Imagine losing most of your best employees, replacing them with kids who are bright, but have little experience.
Expecting performance not to take a hit, while the company trains the new staff, is probably going to make your employees want to work somewhere else.
Not realistic to expect Fizdale to get the same performance from players as those who have been together since camp. Youngest team in the league. Dont believe anyone here knows for sure what kind of a job Fizdale will do next season. Firing him under these circumstances would make this team a tough draw for good coaches. The last one got fired after being told that he was losing his best players, and told to give big minutes to players with little experience, so they can win the lotto.
The next coach will most likely be just looking to get paid. Not more than that.
It’s all about the training and following the process. If employees aren’t trained properly your going to get a mixed bag of results. If there is no process in place it’s unlikely there will be success. Process=System. Did you at anytime feel a process was in place? Do you feel the Knicks young players are better prepared for next season?
Of course it’s going to take time for young players and results will not be there in the beginning. I certainly wasn’t asking for immediate winning but I did expect a process to be implemented.
Doesnt seem like you are giving these employees enough time to pick things up, considering some are literally just out of high school, and being given a great deal of responsibility.
If you were to look at my comments on the job Fizdale was doing this season, you would.find I said more than once that there should be more ball movement. Was also hit and miss with vets.
As the season went on, it was clear that this system started with a mandate to win the Zion lotto, by any means. Losing was an integral part of "the process" last season. It overrode team development, in favor of player development.
Judging how Mitch was a force in the paint, even the perimeter, Trier showed instant offense, Knox finished the season strong. Allen showed poise in a reserve role. I would say that this strategy achieved its goal. Knicks got the third pick, our recent picks got extended minutes and made good use of it, for the most part.
You might not like the way Fizdale coached, believe its wrong not to factor in that he was operating under a larger system. That system mandated that the Knicks lose as many games as possible this past season. If Fizdale had tried harder to get the team on the same page. We might be talking about another 8th or 9th pick.
Guessing Im not alone when I say that the clock should start on Fizdale's tenure next season. The rooks got better, still more work to do. The team got a top three pick as mgmt was hoping for. The Knicks have cap space to at least add a vet temporarily to help win games. Better position than we've been in, in a while
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