GustavBahler wrote:Im against it, risky move.

Still, if it were a done deal, I wouldn't want the Knicks to do more than work around the edges, give the recent draft picks, acquisitions, another extended look next season. Make an exception for Kawhi though.

Otherwise, a year of seasoning for the recent picks, while Durant gets healthy, and maybe another trip to the lotto would be the way to go. Hopefully by the time Durant would get back, the Knicks would have the cap room to sign another star. Our young core would have enough seasoning to keep the stars from carrying too much of the load during the regular season.

Why do we always think the young on the Knicks won’t become stars? Just maybe one or two of the Knicks young will become a star player. The mind set that the Knicks as an organization has, has infiltrated the fans thinking. Don’t give up on the youth movement.

GustavBahler wrote:

Vmart wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Im against it, risky move.

Still, if it were a done deal, I wouldn't want the Knicks to do more than work around the edges, give the recent draft picks, acquisitions, another extended look next season. Make an exception for Kawhi though.

Otherwise, a year of seasoning for the recent picks, while Durant gets healthy, and maybe another trip to the lotto would be the way to go. Hopefully by the time Durant would get back, the Knicks would have the cap room to sign another star. Our young core would have enough seasoning to keep the stars from carrying too much of the load during the regular season.

Why do always think the young on the Knicks won’t become stars? Just maybe one or two of the Knicks young will become a star player. The mind set that the Knicks as an organization has, has infiltrated the fans thinking. Don’t give up on the youth movement.

Just got finished saying in another thread that I believe that some of our young core (and Barrett) are talented enough to be stars down the road. They arent stars yet.

Stars or not, our recent picks can help keep our all-stars (whoever they may be) from wearing out before the playoffs.

Sometime there is a downfall to having stars sometimes they prevent young players from becoming stars.

Vmart wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Im against it, risky move.

Still, if it were a done deal, I wouldn't want the Knicks to do more than work around the edges, give the recent draft picks, acquisitions, another extended look next season. Make an exception for Kawhi though.

Otherwise, a year of seasoning for the recent picks, while Durant gets healthy, and maybe another trip to the lotto would be the way to go. Hopefully by the time Durant would get back, the Knicks would have the cap room to sign another star. Our young core would have enough seasoning to keep the stars from carrying too much of the load during the regular season.

Why do we always think the young on the Knicks won’t become stars? Just maybe one or two of the Knicks young will become a star player. The mind set that the Knicks as an organization has, has infiltrated the fans thinking. Don’t give up on the youth movement.

Because we have yet to develop any player into a star, hard to be optimistic if it hasn't happen in..well...ever

Sangfroid wrote:

Panos wrote:Can we please PLEASE stay away from signing an injured star hoping that we're smarter than everyone else? How many times have we seen this?

Saved from ourselves. Can't believe the number of people/teams that want to max out KD, even with his injury concerns. Hopefully, Pills will steer clear of this mess.

I can't either its insane. It could cripple the franchise. At best we might have a 2 year window of him as a top 25 player. He isn't going to be a top 5 player again. Thats over.

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SelltheteamDolan wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Vmart wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Im against it, risky move.

Still, if it were a done deal, I wouldn't want the Knicks to do more than work around the edges, give the recent draft picks, acquisitions, another extended look next season. Make an exception for Kawhi though.

Otherwise, a year of seasoning for the recent picks, while Durant gets healthy, and maybe another trip to the lotto would be the way to go. Hopefully by the time Durant would get back, the Knicks would have the cap room to sign another star. Our young core would have enough seasoning to keep the stars from carrying too much of the load during the regular season.

Why do we always think the young on the Knicks won’t become stars? Just maybe one or two of the Knicks young will become a star player. The mind set that the Knicks as an organization has, has infiltrated the fans thinking. Don’t give up on the youth movement.

Because we have yet to develop any player into a star, hard to be optimistic if it hasn't happen in..well...ever

Patrick Ewing, Mark Jackson....

David Lee became an all-star. Guess it depends on how you're defining star.

Patrick Ewing was already a star, he helped the knicks more than they helped him, and absolutely no one, from owner, to president, to gm to coach, had anything to do with the knicks of the late 80's and all of the 90"s.

You mind as well say that was an entirely different franchise with the same name..

Under this regime, you have nothing but bad development, bad relationships, and no kind of culture or identity whatsoever, and every yr turns into, wait til next yr..lol

anrst wrote:I am shocked at how many fans and media (mainstream and blog) voices are pumping the idea that signing KD is still a good move by the knicks

how is this possible... it would be completely insane ...

if we do this stupid thing and sign KD while he's lying in a hospital bed ... i ... will ... i dunno

JUST DONT SO IT SCOTT

We're going to do it unfortunately, our only hope is if KD saves us from ourselves and takes the warriors or nets offer.

At the end of the day I can look on it as: we're never going to sign a hero with cap space. I'd rather use it to accept contracts for picks or make shrewd low key signings, but we'll still have a max space for that. Look on diminished KD as a piece you add to whatever our youth develops into (like a free first round pick in a year or two). If you accept we'll never sign a max allstar, then it's not as maddening

anrst wrote:I would rather sign Tobias Harris to a max. Tobias has two functioning acls and can actually play in basketball games. Same for deangelo.

Russell yes as he is a young star. Tobias, no.

smackeddog wrote:

anrst wrote:I am shocked at how many fans and media (mainstream and blog) voices are pumping the idea that signing KD is still a good move by the knicks

how is this possible... it would be completely insane ...

if we do this stupid thing and sign KD while he's lying in a hospital bed ... i ... will ... i dunno

JUST DONT SO IT SCOTT

We're going to do it unfortunately, our only hope is if KD saves us from ourselves and takes the warriors or nets offer.

At the end of the day I can look on it as: we're never going to sign a hero with cap space. I'd rather use it to accept contracts for picks or make shrewd low key signings, but we'll still have a max space for that. Look on diminished KD as a piece you add to whatever our youth develops into (like a free first round pick in a year or two). If you accept we'll never sign a max allstar, then it's not as maddening