nyknickzingis wrote:Porzingis wants to win
It’s clear he isn’t about money
Melo was about money
He loved the max money and NY market as being an all star

KP wanted the franchise to show him a plan
He had enough

I’m sad he asked for a trade but I’m even sadder fans defend the FO over this

Not a single other FO would have waited a year to offer him an extension
Every other FO would have been in ré-sign KP mode summer 2018

KP saw a team planning on wishful free agency and saw a team that didn’t really want to develop players and a team around him.

It’s done but a winner does what KP does.
A guy in it to cash chèques and get attention stays in NY regardless how bad they are.

Lets try. How about a player that he gets compared to the most, Dirk. What a loser, stayed with the team that drafted him and brought them a championship after years and years of doing it the hard way in the Western Conference. Now thats someone whos example no winner should follow.

ramtour420 wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Porzingis wants to win
It’s clear he isn’t about money
Melo was about money
He loved the max money and NY market as being an all star

KP wanted the franchise to show him a plan
He had enough

I’m sad he asked for a trade but I’m even sadder fans defend the FO over this

Not a single other FO would have waited a year to offer him an extension
Every other FO would have been in ré-sign KP mode summer 2018

KP saw a team planning on wishful free agency and saw a team that didn’t really want to develop players and a team around him.

It’s done but a winner does what KP does.
A guy in it to cash chèques and get attention stays in NY regardless how bad they are.

Lets try. How about a player that he gets compared to the most, Dirk. What a loser, stayed with the team that drafted him and brought them a championship after years and years of doing it the hard way in the Western Conference. Now thats someone whos example no winner should follow.

Dirk
Michael Finley
Juwon Howard
Steve Nash

Please let’s not act like KP had stability in NY.

Fisher in his sometimes Triangle
Rambis in always Triangle
Horny in sometimes Triangle
Horny in no Triangle (but the best system KP ever had)
Fiz and Fiz’s system looks awful both in Memphis and here

The best player KP is playing with in THj is never going to make an all star team and isn’t even a starter on a contender

The team didn’t try to lock him up last summer

Come on guys you’re being ridiculous here.

The front office under Dolan has been a joke and been so conflicted with so much player movement.

KP didn’t turn on us, the fans.
He turned on the FO.

Unlike Melo who never had any balls to call out the FO
KP did a few times
Mills thought by being nice it would work
What KP wanted was a good team around him

He’s about to enter his prime next year. He may not have a very long careeR due to his size.
If he’s got 5 or 6 great years, you don’t want to waste them on this Knicks team.

Dude, not a single one of our young players even made the rising star game.
Not a single free agent of Durants class was coming to play with KP and crap.
Come on ... think deeper.

Compare Dirks 53 win team and stable system and ownership and environment vs what KP has been through his first three years.

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VCoug wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Porzingis wants to win
It’s clear he isn’t about money
Melo was about money
He loved the max money and NY market as being an all star

KP wanted the franchise to show him a plan
He had enough

I’m sad he asked for a trade but I’m even sadder fans defend the FO over this

Not a single other FO would have waited a year to offer him an extension
Every other FO would have been in ré-sign KP mode summer 2018

KP saw a team planning on wishful free agency and saw a team that didn’t really want to develop players and a team around him.

It’s done but a winner does what KP does.
A guy in it to cash chèques and get attention stays in NY regardless how bad they are.

KP hasnt done ****. Melo despite his flaws still gave us some playoff games . At least. He didnt demand a trade,he didnt tell other play ers not to come here, hell he even went to his exit meeting with Phil despite their feud. Im not a Melo fan everyone knows that BUT I respect his professionalism and he wanted to be here. Janis and KP can f#ck eachother.

He did demand a trade to come here, for what it's worth.

Yes I get that. That wasnt right but I just meant with the knicks after things got bad. KP could of been more patient. Better times were on the horizon but he let his brother talk himself out of NY

We hope better times are on the horizon but that's far from guaranteed before or after the trade. Post-trade, we have the worst talented team in the leauge.

nyknickzingis wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Porzingis wants to win
It’s clear he isn’t about money
Melo was about money
He loved the max money and NY market as being an all star

KP wanted the franchise to show him a plan
He had enough

I’m sad he asked for a trade but I’m even sadder fans defend the FO over this

Not a single other FO would have waited a year to offer him an extension
Every other FO would have been in ré-sign KP mode summer 2018

KP saw a team planning on wishful free agency and saw a team that didn’t really want to develop players and a team around him.

It’s done but a winner does what KP does.
A guy in it to cash chèques and get attention stays in NY regardless how bad they are.

Lets try. How about a player that he gets compared to the most, Dirk. What a loser, stayed with the team that drafted him and brought them a championship after years and years of doing it the hard way in the Western Conference. Now thats someone whos example no winner should follow.

By Dirks third year in the league he was playing for the same coach and a system that was consistent and his supporting cast included 4 all star caliber players

Dirk
Michael Finley
Juwon Howard
Steve Nash

Please let’s not act like KP had stability in NY.

Fisher in his sometimes Triangle
Rambis in always Triangle
Horny in sometimes Triangle
Horny in no Triangle (but the best system KP ever had)
Fiz and Fiz’s system looks awful both in Memphis and here

The best player KP is playing with in THj is never going to make an all star team and isn’t even a starter on a contender

The team didn’t try to lock him up last summer

Come on guys you’re being ridiculous here.

The front office under Dolan has been a joke and been so conflicted with so much player movement.

KP didn’t turn on us, the fans.
He turned on the FO.

Unlike Melo who never had any balls to call out the FO
KP did a few times
Mills thought by being nice it would work
What KP wanted was a good team around him

He’s about to enter his prime next year. He may not have a very long careeR due to his size.
If he’s got 5 or 6 great years, you don’t want to waste them on this Knicks team.

Dude, not a single one of our young players even made the rising star game.
Not a single free agent of Durants class was coming to play with KP and crap.
Come on ... think deeper.

Compare Dirks 53 win team and stable system and ownership and environment vs what KP has been through his first three years.

nyknickzingis wrote:It’s only a good deal for the Knicks if they get two all stars this summer.

nyknickzingis wrote:If they can’t sign two all stars this summer they are going to be one of thé worst teams in the league
This would mean in Perry Mills era they go 3 straight years lottery.
They’re going to have to go the 76ers route, only problem is tanking rules have changed
I don’t think this plan works unless you’re able to sign two major free agents this summer

If we go to the lottery then we at least are drafting talent again. Not saying i’d be happy but at the same time we are developing talent with cap space and picks. Makes for good trades. A future uncertain. THis was how boston built its base. It would be a short term fail to not sign two, not the end of the world to sign one. That we were in the conversation for AD is a small improvement. By that we had the ability to do it.