https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/252393/Anthony-Davis-Not-Interested-In-Celtics-Trade-Kyrie-Irving-Uncertain-To-Re-Sign-With-Team

Anthony Davis has ruled out the Boston Celtics as one of his favored destinations following a trade request away from the New Orleans Pelicans.

The Celtics could not currently trade for Davis unless they deal Kyrie Irving due to the "Derrick Rose Rule".

Yet there is a "growing belief of uncertainty" of whether Irving will re-sign with the Celtics this summer, despite saying that he would at the beginning of the season, according to sources.

Irving has struggled with his newfound leadership role this season, criticizing younger teammates and seeking advice from LeBron James on how to deal with difficult personalities.

Ira wrote:KP, Knox and Hardaway would be my offer.

You replace Timmy with AD and we are out of any chance for lottery pick.
So actually you trading 3 first rounders 4, 8, and potential 1-3 for one star player.
Typical Melo redux and if AD and his agents are stupid enough he will run all his prime with mediocre Knicks team.

TripleThreat wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:AD couldn't win squat with Cousins nor Holiday. Why do we want him again?

You'd want him if the potential trade to the Lakers is worth MORE than what Zinger could garner alone in a trade.

1) The Knicks are NOT getting AD in a trade unless Zinger is somehow in the package. End of story there.

2) The only reason to get AD is to trade him to the Lakers because LBJ forced a tampering issue if it was a direct NO/LA trade.

3) If you could get more from the Lakers for AD than Zinger alone, then you do it. It could not be a three team trade because of the tampering issue

Maybe Nike and LBJ's power base is strong enough to do a direct NO/LA trade and avoid tampering charges. But it won't look good in the next labor war.

Something to consider. AD is a Klutch Sports client. EVERY KS client ends up with LBJ in the media ****ting on that players current franchise if it's not in the best marketing interest of said player to get exactly what he wants when he wants it. Do you want the added media firestorm every time LBJ says something ****ty about the Knicks because AD is on the team?

Word I heard was that the Warriors were dipping the water about AD last season in terms of a trade, but the entire Klutch Sports bull**** pushed them back.

Point to note - A lot of established elite guys DO NOT want to play with LBJ. Bosh and Love were popular guys. They got **** on. Irving is less popular but also got **** on. People liked Brown and Lue as people ( You can say they were not great coaches) Everyone in pro sports, EVERYONE, respects Spolestra. If Spolestra left the NBA today, he'd have jobs offers in MLB and the NFL and NHL in a second. His scouting ability in general is considered to be one of the best in modern sports history. And LBJ tried to get him fired. Walton is also from basketball royalty. When he's gutted, that won't be pretty either.

You don't trade for AD to keep him. You only do it to retrade him to the Lakers.

And then? AD opts out and signs with the Lakers. I would hard ball the Pels since we are getting a potential rental here. Give them just a bit more than the Lakers. No KP, no 2019 pick. Maybe a 2020 pick and some filler to clear our cap space. Chances are our pick would be worth more than the Lakers one.

Uptown wrote:Any trade for AD has to start with KP...In order to appease their fan base, the Pels need a young allstar in return. Unfortunately, KP is injured and there is no telling he will return back to the form he showed for than month when he wa scorching hot last season....With that said, we will have to attach a 1st round pick to KP which I would definitely not do!!

Sounds like Davis wants the Lakers. His agent is Rich Paul, LBJ's friend...looks like a done deal to me...

Ira wrote:KP, Knox and Hardaway would be my offer.

Not enough, and what do they want with Hardaway's contract??

Jmpasq wrote:

Uptown wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Nalod wrote:

EnySpree wrote:AD only makes 24 million... this is not a Melo situation. We don't have to trade KP and the 1st together. We offer the 1st, Timmy, Mitch and Frank and that's it.... we don't have to do anything else. If they don't like that then take the bull**** deal the Lakers are gonna give them.

Our return? We get AD and KP together... we still have Knox.... we still have cap space to sign a point guard, maybe Rubio for instance. Then we start Trier or Dotson at the 2. So, AD, KP, Knox, Rubio and Trier.... that's not worth the ride?

If not we walk away and start the course. I see alot of anxiety here. Chill

That's a good take too. Lakers can offer some mix of players but NONE has the upside that KP has.
Pels like most teams need a bankable star. Thus they might be more drawn to KP as a center piece.
In my dream fantasy I have KP and Hardaway for AD. Naturally AD will resign. Since he stated he won't sign extension he will be traded. Question is does AD approve a NY deal? He wants to go to a contender which neither LA or NY is.
Now if Durant or Kyrie are in play and we get some of that, well there is now a host of possibilities including Trading Knox if need be.
Chips need three stars.
After months of embattlement with Rainman over the validity of Frank I have lost all objectivity to include him in any deal. Teams win championships with players like that. Players that play defense and are unselfish. If his value is as reported not so high, so why trade him??

I agree that it is a good take. I personally think that if the Knicks are somewhat patient, the best offer the Pelicans could get is something like our pick, THJ, and Frank. I don't really see another team beating that. If you want to include another young asset in case of emergency, fine, but I can't see another team topping that offer, especially when our pick could very well be Zion

You cant be serious...The pick is valuable, obviously, THJ and Frank dont have much value at all...The Celtics can put together a much better package than that. They own a top ten pick plus they can trade Jalen Brown who is a much better player/prospect than Frank or THJ

Celtics can blow them away if they wanted to. They should

The Celtics literally cannot make an offer by league rules. I am somewhat serious uptown. The Knicks pick will get a building block. Maybe the Knicks have to include Robinson or something. But I think it's insane that people want to include Knox, KP, and the pick. I actually think what the Knicks have versus the field is enticing

Nalod wrote:

Knixkik wrote:So what's the plan? Everyone but KP? We aren't trading KP there. He won't want to be there, and if we want loyalty from him, we need to give it back. But everything on the table (including 1st round pick) except KP makes sense.

How do you know what KP wants or would not want?

I think it’s common sense that KP either wants to stay with the Knicks or determine his destination down the road. No way he is accepting of a deal to New Orleans. No path to the playoffs there.