Kp, doesn't pass enough, avg's less rebounds the 6 3" westbrook, in fact, how is that lonzo ball is able to have more double digit rebounds then 7 3 KP. In all honesty, KP is a skill full offensive player, who blocks shots, he is no way shape or form a franchise player, just like melo wasn't either.

Gudris wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:There is maybe 3 players in this league that can carry a team on his own, Westbrook, LBJ, and Harden. Those guys can score, defend, rebound, and make precision passes.

Kp, doesn't pass enough, avg's less rebounds the 6 3" westbrook, in fact, how is that lonzo ball is able to have more double digit rebounds then 7 3 KP. In all honesty, KP is a skill full offensive player, who blocks shots, he is no way shape or form a franchise player, just like melo wasn't either.

If you watch any knicks game, you will notice that KP is giving up atleast 5+ rebounds to teammates, he can grab 10+ rebounds easely just to make you happy and teammates angry ?

Bernard30 wrote:This is ridiculous. KP will go down as one of the all time greats of the game. He is next level, superstar talent. Briggs, I LOVE your eye but you are wrong this time. Sure, maybe he'll have injuries at points but I fully believe KP will lead us to our first championship in my lifetime. Without him, we have no shot at anything any time soon...

No no no. Im not saying trade KP?? Im saying I do not think hes a Hakeem Olujuwan type FP. We cannot count on him to drag this team to 57 wins--wont happen--hes not that type of player nor will he physically be able to do 80 games then the playoffs. What Im saying is its clear that he can be a form of a franchise player but will need much better pieces that can take the bruden off him. Olujawan--you put 7 role players around him --you cant do that here.

martin wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/scoring-per-48-minutes

Points Per 48 Minutes Leaders 						
								
RK	PLAYER				TEAM	GP	MPG	PTS	FG%	3PM-3PA		3P%
1	James Harden, PG		HOU	20	36	42.3	0.456	6.0-14.8	0.407
2	Kristaps Porzingis, PF		NY	18	33.1	39.1	0.464	3.0-7.4		0.402
3	Stephen Curry, PG		GS	19	32.3	38.7	0.465	5.2-14.2	0.37
4	Giannis Antetokounmpo, SF	MIL	17	37.9	37.4	0.552	0.6-2.3		0.258
5	Joel Embiid, C			PHI	17	29.4	37.2	0.498	1.2-4.9		0.255
6	LeBron James, SF		CLE	20	37.4	36.6	0.578	2.6-6.2		0.423
7	Kevin Durant, SF		GS	16	34.1	34.7	0.529	3.6-8.4		0.432
7	Anthony Davis, PF		NO	19	36	34.7	0.571	1.0-2.7		0.359
9	DeMarcus Cousins, C		NO	20	35.4	34.6	0.462	3.1-9.3		0.328
9	Kyrie Irving, PG		BOS	21	31.6	34.6	0.476	3.1-8.7		0.355

Dude is playing without a PG and an elbow swelling thing that has slowed him down.

Youngest on that list... check
Least filled out physically... check
Player with the least amount of talent around him... check

What do you want him to do in his 3rd year? He is well ahead of any realistic development schedule - this is a guy that was years away from years away according to most analysts when he was drafted.

The talent level around him is a joke at the moment, as expected - this is a year 1 of yet another rebuild with new management.

We literally have no legit NBA PG on the roster - we have 2 career backups in the twilight of their careers who probably should be 3rd string veteran leadership type players who should never see the court in Jack and Sessions. We are playing a 19 year old kid who would probably not start for any major division I school, may not even get minutes. Not saying he is bad - but he is 19 simply has a ton of learning to do - we are talking about a guy who could be a red shirt freshman here. Almost forgot, Baker is in the league cause "plays hard, smart" - aka white guy who really should not be in the league but we are going to have him cause he is good for PR and gives the fans a relatable face on promotional material

We have 0 SFs on the roster. McDermott is a tweener between 4 and 3 - too slow for the 3, too small for the 4, his only assets are 3s and cutting and giving a **** on defense most of the time. You don't get points for trying in the NBA though. Beas is a headcase and a tweener as well, same as McDermott. Lance is not an NBA player, period - he looks like his body is about to fall apart into dozens of tiny peaces on every layup attempt.
We are starting a 6 5(6 6 maybe) SG at SF - that by itself is enough to sink most defensive schemes.

We have no backup PF - none! KOQ is an undersized C who shows up hung over every other game (dude parties hard) and looks like it. I get flashbacks of Othella Harrington / Weatherspoon / Mo Taylor (idiots who liked the Mo Taylor trade manup - old school posters should get the reference lol) every time he is trying to make a layup in traffic.

I can probably go on trashing the roster more, but this should be enough to already make a 10-10 record look like a magic trick!

Maybe the org actually sticks to some kind of plan over next 5 years and builds something good. History seems to suggest otherwise but hope is always the last one to die.

jrodmc wrote:

martin wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/scoring-per-48-minutes

Points Per 48 Minutes Leaders 						
								
RK	PLAYER				TEAM	GP	MPG	PTS	FG%	3PM-3PA		3P%
1	James Harden, PG		HOU	20	36	42.3	0.456	6.0-14.8	0.407
2	Kristaps Porzingis, PF		NY	18	33.1	39.1	0.464	3.0-7.4		0.402
3	Stephen Curry, PG		GS	19	32.3	38.7	0.465	5.2-14.2	0.37
4	Giannis Antetokounmpo, SF	MIL	17	37.9	37.4	0.552	0.6-2.3		0.258
5	Joel Embiid, C			PHI	17	29.4	37.2	0.498	1.2-4.9		0.255
6	LeBron James, SF		CLE	20	37.4	36.6	0.578	2.6-6.2		0.423
7	Kevin Durant, SF		GS	16	34.1	34.7	0.529	3.6-8.4		0.432
7	Anthony Davis, PF		NO	19	36	34.7	0.571	1.0-2.7		0.359
9	DeMarcus Cousins, C		NO	20	35.4	34.6	0.462	3.1-9.3		0.328
9	Kyrie Irving, PG		BOS	21	31.6	34.6	0.476	3.1-8.7		0.355

Dude is playing without a PG and an elbow swelling thing that has slowed him down.

Youngest on that list... check
Least filled out physically... check
Player with the least amount of talent around him... check

Oh my goodness, when have we heard this piece of hackneyed tripe excuse used before? LMAO

who cares, that dung of a player is not here any more