Paris907 wrote:I don’t see Kanter the great. His +|- is deep in the red and he never gets an assist. His defense was 63 outnof 66
Centers in the league. That smacks of no interest and immobility.

I’ll take Wily. With Bledsoe in play, I’d package Kenter and his $18Mm along with Lee and pluck Bledsoe plus 1.

I could see Kanter in a nice bigman rotation for sure. He's a poor defender but brings other things. In the right role he could be very good. He's very tough to deal with. When there are other good players around him he feasts even more.

Well see... I would be good with trading Kanter and KOQ and going with Willy/KP/Noah up front and trying to replace Noah in the draft next couple years.

When I see Kanter, I basically see Al Jefferson or Zach Randolph - a powerful bulldozing big man who looks the part. Scores, rebounds, soft hands. Looks like a man among boys in the paint - seems like you could pencil in 20/10 for the next 5-8 years with him. Yet Kanter has had a hard time earning true starter (30+mpg) minutes over the course of his career. Is that Jefferson and Randolph's teams were more lenient with the lack of D? (Amare Stoudemire also fit this mold, tho his athleticism was so off the charts that you overlooked his lack of fundamentals)

I hate to bring it up, you have players like Nate Robinson - who in my opinion, on the right team, had the talent to produce like Iverson - with a more rugged body. The league didn't want another Iverson because in spite of his production, it didn't equate to team basketball. You saw the diminutive Isaiah Thomas limited in Sacto and Phoenix before becoming an MVP-type candidate on the Celtics.

So all I'm getting at here is some players look like they have "it"... but just need to be unleashed, warts and all. Then you determine how you can compensate for their weaknesses with the supporting cast.

As an aside...
I remember reading an article about Dennis Rodman - how he was a defensive demon with Detroit, but as he got older, the stats made him out to be a mediocre defender. Rodman surmised that securing the rebounds was more valuable than defense as it secured the possession. He made it his mission to get the possession rather than stop the shot.

Basically, the point is - as long as Kanter isn't giving up layups and dunks all the time, take your chances with him and bank on his rebounding skills.

technomaster wrote:I've been fascinating by how teams in the NBA make playing time decisions on certain players.

When I see Kanter, I basically see Al Jefferson or Zach Randolph - a powerful bulldozing big man who looks the part. Scores, rebounds, soft hands. Looks like a man among boys in the paint - seems like you could pencil in 20/10 for the next 5-8 years with him. Yet Kanter has had a hard time earning true starter (30+mpg) minutes over the course of his career. Is that Jefferson and Randolph's teams were more lenient with the lack of D? (Amare Stoudemire also fit this mold, tho his athleticism was so off the charts that you overlooked his lack of fundamentals)

I hate to bring it up, you have players like Nate Robinson - who in my opinion, on the right team, had the talent to produce like Iverson - with a more rugged body. The league didn't want another Iverson because in spite of his production, it didn't equate to team basketball. You saw the diminutive Isaiah Thomas limited in Sacto and Phoenix before becoming an MVP-type candidate on the Celtics.

So all I'm getting at here is some players look like they have "it"... but just need to be unleashed, warts and all. Then you determine how you can compensate for their weaknesses with the supporting cast.

As an aside...
I remember reading an article about Dennis Rodman - how he was a defensive demon with Detroit, but as he got older, the stats made him out to be a mediocre defender. Rodman surmised that securing the rebounds was more valuable than defense as it secured the possession. He made it his mission to get the possession rather than stop the shot.

Basically, the point is - as long as Kanter isn't giving up layups and dunks all the time, take your chances with him and bank on his rebounding skills.

The way the Sixers did with Iverson....and how the Knicks should have done with Melo.