Bonn1997 wrote:

Kemet wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

arkrud wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:They couldn't do what they did if they didn't DRAFT Harden, Durant, and Westbrook. Everything fell from that. And these star players they have are rentals anyway, there's no long term for this nucleus. And once the nucleus added Melo, it's ultimately flawed. Melo is not even a 3rd option on a championship team, he's a sparkplug off the bench!!!!

They were about to lose Harden the same way they lost KD(for nothing)but struck a deal with houston.

The knicks have had solid draft picks over the years, and have let them go in bad trades, developing them in a losing environments, or let them walk.

The players we have now are just excited to be playing IN NY, the worst city on earth to try and develop. You have seen all the bull shh incidents that have happen in clubs and the night life just over the last couple seasons, our own player gets shot coming out of a club. Try focusing as a 20 something yr old with millions in your pocket, living in NY, playing in front of celebrities every night

You listen to walt about how reed was a true leader and kept guys in check including walt himself

The point is, that's the type of leadership you develop young players with.

The young guys we have now, should be playing behind guys like wade, labron, Paul geogre, cp3, harden, ect, they should have a very experince coach with a winning track record, they should have leaders that are still impacting the game.

Mills is not here to build a championship team, he took this job because of the prestige, and he lowered his bar to the floor so that there would be zero expectations.

IF mills really cared about the knicks and wanted to stop the bleeding, he would have urged DOLAN to bring in somebody with a proven track record.

Mills got a grade D or lower for ever move he made this summer.. I'm hoping most people (including myself) are wrong, but i seriously doubt it

Mills is in almost a no lose situation. He set the table to sck--so any upside he gets credit. He really cant lose so he wins atleast for the next 2 years. His only downside this year is THJ. Bt even if THJ is not up to the challenge--its easily a blame game on the rest of the team and coach. Guys like Kanter Beasley Sessions can all have upside at minimal cost to the team. Frabnk is great--I agreed with the pick if Frank scks Phil fcked up. Its not brain science.

This is not how experience GM'S operate. Mills has been part of the losing culture, he help formulate the culture with PHIL, and now he has taking over, and using youth has his scapegoat.

He's not building through the draft because he hasn't acquired any 1st round picks. He is adding sub par players. Here's the one thing Im yet to figure out..

HOW LONG IS MILLS CONTRACT FOR, I don't think that's ever came up

Why you are expecting experienced GM to agree working for Dolan after what transpired last 20 years?
Only bureaucrats like Mills and beginners like Perry will take on it as they have no better choice.
You are asking for some alternative reality to take hold but this is not TV show, this is life.
So get with the program of hope or you will be miserable fan for the rest of your life. What the point?

when your first major move as president is consider to be one of the worst off season acquisitions in the entire NBA this off season, you know were in trouble

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1371919-3-players-who-will-thrive-with-new-teams-and-3-who-won-t

Tim Hardaway Jr., New York Knicks

The four-year, $71-million contract the Knicks handed Hardaway Jr. - which was reportedly over $20 million more than what the Atlanta Hawks put on the table - will constantly be in the back of fans' minds when watching the 25-year-old ball at Madison Square Garden.

You could label his final year in Atlanta as somewhat of a breakout, but if you want to go down that path, you'd also have to acknowledge that his numbers probably still didn't warrant such an extravagant contract.

Hardaway Jr. is a fine offensive guard with some decent upside, but he comes with his fair share of flaws on both ends, creating more of an uphill battle for him to justify his newfound wealth - a result of New York's readiness to outbid themselves, mind you.

basically, mills is following in the Foot steps of layden & Isaiah,

What makes Chris Walder's opinion that important? How much do you even know about him?

HONESTLY DUDE, if the article stated Thj was the best signing of the summer, you wouldn't question his credibility. That's what goes on around here, when ever there's a negative write up, you guys question the writers opinion, or motive. Yet when there is a positive write up, it's all good regardless of the writer.

There is next to nobody on earth who feels THJ wasn't grossly over paid(allan houston style), the good thing is, he has a chance to change that perception sooner than later

The Knicks THJ signing made no sense at all, especially in early July .. last season the Knicks strongest area on the court were at the SG position. The Knicks weakest area on the court in every game last season were at both forward position, plus weak at not having a starter PG .. D.Rose performance n style should have been switch asap early in the season to the Knicks starting SG position.

Wait, what?!

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/carmelo-anthony-makes-the-thunder-whole/

Carmelo Anthony Makes The Thunder Whole

By Kyle Wagner

Filed under NBA

As the NBA super team has returned to fashion over the last decade or so, basketball fans have been trained to rein in expectations — that putting together “on paper” talent full of volume scoring and high usage rates is a foolish way to assemble a fantasy team, let alone an NBA roster. They’ve been warned, in other words, against getting too excited about exactly what the Oklahoma City Thunder just did.

At first glance, Sam Presti and the Thunder pulling off yet another surprising trade — this time swapping Enes Kanter, Doug McDermott and a second-round pick for 10-time All-Star Carmelo Anthony — seems like fool’s gold. There’s only one ball, and Anthony, Paul George (whom the Thunder acquired earlier in the offseason) and reigning MVP Russell Westbrook all used prolific amounts of it last season: Anthony had a usage rate of 29.1 percent, his lowest in a decade but still a top-20 figure in the league. George’s was 28.9, also in the top 20, and Westbrook’s, famously, was 41.7 — a single-season NBA record. Anthony isn’t what he once was and his Knicks haven’t made the playoffs since 2013; George’s Indiana Pacers and Westbrook’s Thunder washed out in the first round. There’s plenty reason to question whether this will work. But Oklahoma City isn’t just any rebuilding project, and that makes its needs unique.

It’s hard to evaluate the revamped Thunder by looking at these players as they existed on other teams. A player’s role can change drastically when going from a bad team to a contender (e.g. Kevin Love). More important is how they’ll fit on a Thunder team gunning for the Western Conference Finals and beyond. And unlike most teams adding star players to a modest roster, there’s a template in the team’s recent history for how the fit might go: The Kevin Durant-led 2015-16 Thunder went up 3-1 on the Golden State Warriors in the conference finals.

Westbrook, starting center Steven Adams and standout perimeter defender Andre Roberson are all holdovers from that team, and George will likely be asked to fill a trimmed-down Durant role. Anthony, meanwhile, has a surprising amount in common with another former OKC standout: Serge Ibaka.

This takes a bit of explaining. Ibaka’s defense has slipped recently, but he’s still a good defender overall and blocks shots at a high rate. Even in the 2016 playoffs, when Ibaka was no longer the fierce rim protector he was in earlier playoff runs, he held the Warriors to 40.8 percent shooting on attempts he defended in the conference finals. Meanwhile, Anthony can string together a few high-intensity defensive plays, but he has never shown the ability to do that over a season or even a playoff series. Big advantage for Serge. But Anthony has traditionally been a very good rebounder for his position and excels at Ibaka’s other major contribution: floor spacing from a “big” position.

Anthony had an effective field goal rate of 58.6 percent on catch-and-shoot jumpers last season, better than known sharpshooters like Kevin Love and in the top half of players with at least 200 attempts. (This is more impressive than it sounds, because the ranks of players who are asked to take 200 spot-up jumpers is a heavily self-selected group. Anthony will obviously hold the ball more than Ibaka, but he’s also a better ball handler and passer. The who-does-what balance will be crucial, which it doesn’t take deep analysis to see. But at minimum, Melo walking into a spot-up shooting role — the role he played so well for Team USA — will help the Thunder no matter what else he does, simply because he’s a good enough shooter to space the floor. And the Thunder desperately needed spacing.

As a team, the Thunder had an effective field goal rate of 48.4 percent on catch-and-shoot jumpers last season, third-worst in the league. The season before, they were middle-of-the-pack at 52.2 eFG, despite Ibaka underperforming and bricklayers like Roberson, Kyle Singler and Randy Foye eating up a lot of looks. Now they add Anthony, George was even better last season at 60.1 percent eFG and Patrick Patterson (55 percent eFG). The Thunder didn’t just address their need for shooters — they course-corrected their recent tendency to address shooting deficiencies with players who can only shoot, Anthony Morrow or Alex Abrines.

The bigger question for Oklahoma City is depth. The Thunder rotation was already perilously thin, and trading Kanter and McDermott for Anthony replaces two young players with a 33-year-old forward. But even that is offset by the ways Anthony and George fundamentally change the makeup of the roster. Last season, the Thunder scored 10.6 fewer points per 100 possessions when Westbrook sat, making role players like Roberson or fellow defensive standouts such as Jerami Grant much less valuable than they would be on a team that was competent offensively. So the fact that Anthony and George carried their respective offenses with fairly limited rosters should mean that Roberson, Grant and other role players can focus on their strengths rather than their deficiencies.

And that gets to the core of why the Westbrook-Anthony-George team-up isn’t quite like other recent collections of stars, Golden State notwithstanding. The core of a contending team was already in place but was gutted by Durant’s exit in free agency and general roster turnover. The Thunder were a good team with a few specific, extreme holes in the roster. Trading for Paul George filled a bunch of them, and trading for Melo has emphatically closed the rest.

Kyle Wagner is a senior editor at FiveThirtyEight.

Nice find, Bonn.

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

arkrud wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:They couldn't do what they did if they didn't DRAFT Harden, Durant, and Westbrook. Everything fell from that. And these star players they have are rentals anyway, there's no long term for this nucleus. And once the nucleus added Melo, it's ultimately flawed. Melo is not even a 3rd option on a championship team, he's a sparkplug off the bench!!!!

They were about to lose Harden the same way they lost KD(for nothing)but struck a deal with houston.

The knicks have had solid draft picks over the years, and have let them go in bad trades, developing them in a losing environments, or let them walk.

The players we have now are just excited to be playing IN NY, the worst city on earth to try and develop. You have seen all the bull shh incidents that have happen in clubs and the night life just over the last couple seasons, our own player gets shot coming out of a club. Try focusing as a 20 something yr old with millions in your pocket, living in NY, playing in front of celebrities every night

You listen to walt about how reed was a true leader and kept guys in check including walt himself

The point is, that's the type of leadership you develop young players with.

The young guys we have now, should be playing behind guys like wade, labron, Paul geogre, cp3, harden, ect, they should have a very experince coach with a winning track record, they should have leaders that are still impacting the game.

Mills is not here to build a championship team, he took this job because of the prestige, and he lowered his bar to the floor so that there would be zero expectations.

IF mills really cared about the knicks and wanted to stop the bleeding, he would have urged DOLAN to bring in somebody with a proven track record.

Mills got a grade D or lower for ever move he made this summer.. I'm hoping most people (including myself) are wrong, but i seriously doubt it

Mills is in almost a no lose situation. He set the table to sck--so any upside he gets credit. He really cant lose so he wins atleast for the next 2 years. His only downside this year is THJ. Bt even if THJ is not up to the challenge--its easily a blame game on the rest of the team and coach. Guys like Kanter Beasley Sessions can all have upside at minimal cost to the team. Frabnk is great--I agreed with the pick if Frank scks Phil fcked up. Its not brain science.

This is not how experience GM'S operate. Mills has been part of the losing culture, he help formulate the culture with PHIL, and now he has taking over, and using youth has his scapegoat.

He's not building through the draft because he hasn't acquired any 1st round picks. He is adding sub par players. Here's the one thing Im yet to figure out..

HOW LONG IS MILLS CONTRACT FOR, I don't think that's ever came up

Why you are expecting experienced GM to agree working for Dolan after what transpired last 20 years?
Only bureaucrats like Mills and beginners like Perry will take on it as they have no better choice.
You are asking for some alternative reality to take hold but this is not TV show, this is life.
So get with the program of hope or you will be miserable fan for the rest of your life. What the point?

when your first major move as president is consider to be one of the worst off season acquisitions in the entire NBA this off season, you know were in trouble

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1371919-3-players-who-will-thrive-with-new-teams-and-3-who-won-t

Tim Hardaway Jr., New York Knicks

The four-year, $71-million contract the Knicks handed Hardaway Jr. - which was reportedly over $20 million more than what the Atlanta Hawks put on the table - will constantly be in the back of fans' minds when watching the 25-year-old ball at Madison Square Garden.

You could label his final year in Atlanta as somewhat of a breakout, but if you want to go down that path, you'd also have to acknowledge that his numbers probably still didn't warrant such an extravagant contract.

Hardaway Jr. is a fine offensive guard with some decent upside, but he comes with his fair share of flaws on both ends, creating more of an uphill battle for him to justify his newfound wealth - a result of New York's readiness to outbid themselves, mind you.

basically, mills is following in the Foot steps of layden & Isaiah,

What makes Chris Walder's opinion that important? How much do you even know about him?

HONESTLY DUDE, if the article stated Thj was the best signing of the summer, you wouldn't question his credibility. That's what goes on around here, when ever there's a negative write up, you guys question the writers opinion, or motive. Yet when there is a positive write up, it's all good regardless of the writer.

There is next to nobody on earth who feels THJ wasn't grossly over paid(allan houston style), the good thing is, he has a chance to change that perception sooner than later

Not for anything, but Hardaway literally got the average salary for starting SG's in the league. I did the research and posted it in the thread about the Hardaway signing. His current contract ranks about 14 or so amongst all NBA SG.

meloshouldgo wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Melo = spacing and rebounds and much better shooting than what left the building.

Nice find, Bonn.

A 27 million dollar decoy with minus defense. I can now see the "value" he brings to "championship contenders". LOL

Papabear wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Melo = spacing and rebounds and much better shooting than what left the building.

Nice find, Bonn.

A 27 million dollar decoy with minus defense. I can now see the "value" he brings to "championship contenders". LOL

Papabear Says

Name one person on the Knicks now who is better than Melo??? Sit back for the next 10 years and wait for a ring. Better yet a finals. We never gave Melo the team to back him up.

He was the best player. And now he still is but on a rebuilding team. At 33 the team won't go anywhere with him and he is in decline.
simple really. He failed knicks and knicks failed him.

knicks1248 wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

arkrud wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:They couldn't do what they did if they didn't DRAFT Harden, Durant, and Westbrook. Everything fell from that. And these star players they have are rentals anyway, there's no long term for this nucleus. And once the nucleus added Melo, it's ultimately flawed. Melo is not even a 3rd option on a championship team, he's a sparkplug off the bench!!!!

They were about to lose Harden the same way they lost KD(for nothing)but struck a deal with houston.

The knicks have had solid draft picks over the years, and have let them go in bad trades, developing them in a losing environments, or let them walk.

The players we have now are just excited to be playing IN NY, the worst city on earth to try and develop. You have seen all the bull shh incidents that have happen in clubs and the night life just over the last couple seasons, our own player gets shot coming out of a club. Try focusing as a 20 something yr old with millions in your pocket, living in NY, playing in front of celebrities every night

You listen to walt about how reed was a true leader and kept guys in check including walt himself

The point is, that's the type of leadership you develop young players with.

The young guys we have now, should be playing behind guys like wade, labron, Paul geogre, cp3, harden, ect, they should have a very experince coach with a winning track record, they should have leaders that are still impacting the game.

Mills is not here to build a championship team, he took this job because of the prestige, and he lowered his bar to the floor so that there would be zero expectations.

IF mills really cared about the knicks and wanted to stop the bleeding, he would have urged DOLAN to bring in somebody with a proven track record.

Mills got a grade D or lower for ever move he made this summer.. I'm hoping most people (including myself) are wrong, but i seriously doubt it

Mills is in almost a no lose situation. He set the table to sck--so any upside he gets credit. He really cant lose so he wins atleast for the next 2 years. His only downside this year is THJ. Bt even if THJ is not up to the challenge--its easily a blame game on the rest of the team and coach. Guys like Kanter Beasley Sessions can all have upside at minimal cost to the team. Frabnk is great--I agreed with the pick if Frank scks Phil fcked up. Its not brain science.

This is not how experience GM'S operate. Mills has been part of the losing culture, he help formulate the culture with PHIL, and now he has taking over, and using youth has his scapegoat.

He's not building through the draft because he hasn't acquired any 1st round picks. He is adding sub par players. Here's the one thing Im yet to figure out..

HOW LONG IS MILLS CONTRACT FOR, I don't think that's ever came up

Why you are expecting experienced GM to agree working for Dolan after what transpired last 20 years?
Only bureaucrats like Mills and beginners like Perry will take on it as they have no better choice.
You are asking for some alternative reality to take hold but this is not TV show, this is life.
So get with the program of hope or you will be miserable fan for the rest of your life. What the point?

when your first major move as president is consider to be one of the worst off season acquisitions in the entire NBA this off season, you know were in trouble

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1371919-3-players-who-will-thrive-with-new-teams-and-3-who-won-t

Tim Hardaway Jr., New York Knicks

The four-year, $71-million contract the Knicks handed Hardaway Jr. - which was reportedly over $20 million more than what the Atlanta Hawks put on the table - will constantly be in the back of fans' minds when watching the 25-year-old ball at Madison Square Garden.

You could label his final year in Atlanta as somewhat of a breakout, but if you want to go down that path, you'd also have to acknowledge that his numbers probably still didn't warrant such an extravagant contract.

Hardaway Jr. is a fine offensive guard with some decent upside, but he comes with his fair share of flaws on both ends, creating more of an uphill battle for him to justify his newfound wealth - a result of New York's readiness to outbid themselves, mind you.

basically, mills is following in the Foot steps of layden & Isaiah,

What makes Chris Walder's opinion that important? How much do you even know about him?

HONESTLY DUDE, if the article stated Thj was the best signing of the summer, you wouldn't question his credibility. That's what goes on around here, when ever there's a negative write up, you guys question the writers opinion, or motive. Yet when there is a positive write up, it's all good regardless of the writer.

There is next to nobody on earth who feels THJ wasn't grossly over paid(allan houston style), the good thing is, he has a chance to change that perception sooner than later

Not for anything, but Hardaway literally got the average salary for starting SG's in the league. I did the research and posted it in the thread about the Hardaway signing. His current contract ranks about 14 or so amongst all NBA SG.

the goal is have that contract look like a bargin, for me, expectations are through the roof

The contract being a bargain, I would love to have that, too. But point is that contract is the going rate for an average 2 guard.

jrodmc wrote:Melo = spacing and rebounds and much better shooting than what left the building.

Nice find, Bonn.

How does a player who doesn't shoot the 3 that well, and pound the ball in the block while deciding what to do create spacing? He's a midrange jump shooter, which by definition takes up space. Makes no sense.

Bonn1997 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

arkrud wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:They couldn't do what they did if they didn't DRAFT Harden, Durant, and Westbrook. Everything fell from that. And these star players they have are rentals anyway, there's no long term for this nucleus. And once the nucleus added Melo, it's ultimately flawed. Melo is not even a 3rd option on a championship team, he's a sparkplug off the bench!!!!

They were about to lose Harden the same way they lost KD(for nothing)but struck a deal with houston.

The knicks have had solid draft picks over the years, and have let them go in bad trades, developing them in a losing environments, or let them walk.

The players we have now are just excited to be playing IN NY, the worst city on earth to try and develop. You have seen all the bull shh incidents that have happen in clubs and the night life just over the last couple seasons, our own player gets shot coming out of a club. Try focusing as a 20 something yr old with millions in your pocket, living in NY, playing in front of celebrities every night

You listen to walt about how reed was a true leader and kept guys in check including walt himself

The point is, that's the type of leadership you develop young players with.

The young guys we have now, should be playing behind guys like wade, labron, Paul geogre, cp3, harden, ect, they should have a very experince coach with a winning track record, they should have leaders that are still impacting the game.

Mills is not here to build a championship team, he took this job because of the prestige, and he lowered his bar to the floor so that there would be zero expectations.

IF mills really cared about the knicks and wanted to stop the bleeding, he would have urged DOLAN to bring in somebody with a proven track record.

Mills got a grade D or lower for ever move he made this summer.. I'm hoping most people (including myself) are wrong, but i seriously doubt it

Mills is in almost a no lose situation. He set the table to sck--so any upside he gets credit. He really cant lose so he wins atleast for the next 2 years. His only downside this year is THJ. Bt even if THJ is not up to the challenge--its easily a blame game on the rest of the team and coach. Guys like Kanter Beasley Sessions can all have upside at minimal cost to the team. Frabnk is great--I agreed with the pick if Frank scks Phil fcked up. Its not brain science.

This is not how experience GM'S operate. Mills has been part of the losing culture, he help formulate the culture with PHIL, and now he has taking over, and using youth has his scapegoat.

He's not building through the draft because he hasn't acquired any 1st round picks. He is adding sub par players. Here's the one thing Im yet to figure out..

HOW LONG IS MILLS CONTRACT FOR, I don't think that's ever came up

Why you are expecting experienced GM to agree working for Dolan after what transpired last 20 years?
Only bureaucrats like Mills and beginners like Perry will take on it as they have no better choice.
You are asking for some alternative reality to take hold but this is not TV show, this is life.
So get with the program of hope or you will be miserable fan for the rest of your life. What the point?

when your first major move as president is consider to be one of the worst off season acquisitions in the entire NBA this off season, you know were in trouble

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1371919-3-players-who-will-thrive-with-new-teams-and-3-who-won-t

Tim Hardaway Jr., New York Knicks

The four-year, $71-million contract the Knicks handed Hardaway Jr. - which was reportedly over $20 million more than what the Atlanta Hawks put on the table - will constantly be in the back of fans' minds when watching the 25-year-old ball at Madison Square Garden.

You could label his final year in Atlanta as somewhat of a breakout, but if you want to go down that path, you'd also have to acknowledge that his numbers probably still didn't warrant such an extravagant contract.

Hardaway Jr. is a fine offensive guard with some decent upside, but he comes with his fair share of flaws on both ends, creating more of an uphill battle for him to justify his newfound wealth - a result of New York's readiness to outbid themselves, mind you.

basically, mills is following in the Foot steps of layden & Isaiah,

What makes Chris Walder's opinion that important? How much do you even know about him?

HONESTLY DUDE, if the article stated Thj was the best signing of the summer, you wouldn't question his credibility. That's what goes on around here, when ever there's a negative write up, you guys question the writers opinion, or motive. Yet when there is a positive write up, it's all good regardless of the writer.

There is next to nobody on earth who feels THJ wasn't grossly over paid(allan houston style), the good thing is, he has a chance to change that perception sooner than later

Not for anything, but Hardaway literally got the average salary for starting SG's in the league. I did the research and posted it in the thread about the Hardaway signing. His current contract ranks about 14 or so amongst all NBA SG.

the goal is have that contract look like a bargin, for me, expectations are through the roof

The contract being a bargain, I would love to have that, too. But point is that contract is the going rate for an average 2 guard.

Maybe so , but ATL was never going to give him that much (they were going between 11/12 per), and he still would have signed with them regardless. Mills already said he put a AARON JUDGE swing for the fences with the offer so ATL wouldn't match..

I'd say offering about 4 or 5 mil more a year than the other team for an RFA is the going rate too. Why would that matter anyway? You seem to have agreed ("maybe so") that we may have spent the going rate, which by definition means other teams would have spent this anyway even if Atlanta didn't.

ATL signed Bazemore the year prior to 4 yrs 70 mil. Also gave Dennis Schroder a 4 yr 70 extension. If they were offering Hardaway jr 11-12mil then they were low balling. They had the ability to match so they knew either Hardaway takes a lower then market deal. Or he gets his agent to do his job and find a market which they could have possibly matched.

Hardaway jr when ATL traded away Kover averaged 17.5pts 3.5rebs 2.6ast in 32mins on 59TS% and solid defense.

Papabear wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Melo = spacing and rebounds and much better shooting than what left the building.

Nice find, Bonn.

A 27 million dollar decoy with minus defense. I can now see the "value" he brings to "championship contenders". LOL

Papabear Says

Name one person on the Knicks now who is better than Melo??? Sit back for the next 10 years and wait for a ring. Better yet a finals. We never gave Melo the team to back him up.

If you look at what he does (inefficient volume scorer with piss poor defense) and factor in what he makes $27 millions and the negative drama and sulking, almost every player in the NBA is better value. Problem is the starfukking fans only care about empty stats and zero accountability.

meloshouldgo wrote:

Papabear wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Melo = spacing and rebounds and much better shooting than what left the building.

Nice find, Bonn.

A 27 million dollar decoy with minus defense. I can now see the "value" he brings to "championship contenders". LOL

Papabear Says

Name one person on the Knicks now who is better than Melo??? Sit back for the next 10 years and wait for a ring. Better yet a finals. We never gave Melo the team to back him up.

If you look at what he does (inefficient volume scorer with piss poor defense) and factor in what he makes $27 millions and the negative drama and sulking, almost every player in the NBA is better value. Problem is the starfukking fans only care about empty stats and zero accountability.

KAI. Your on the wrong board. Or are you just taking a break from the OKC forum? Rumor has it that eraser boy is ruining the OKC site. Did you get banned?