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jrodmc
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9/26/2017  9:06 AM
fishmike wrote:Melo was everything we traded for. A me first scorer who plays one way... his. His lousy playoff performances came with him also. We had one good really enjoyable year. The rest was about about him collecting massive paychecks and telling the world how great he was.

OKC is perfect for him. 3rd option is about right. Im sure he will do well in the role. Have fun Melo.

Yeah, one good year. I sure hated going to the second round of the playoffs, didn't you? 36 points in game 6, what a waste! And maybe he should have signed for the league minimum, like all other franchise players do...

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9/26/2017  9:15 AM
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:Melo was everything we traded for. A me first scorer who plays one way... his. His lousy playoff performances came with him also. We had one good really enjoyable year. The rest was about about him collecting massive paychecks and telling the world how great he was.

OKC is perfect for him. 3rd option is about right. Im sure he will do well in the role. Have fun Melo.

Yeah, one good year. I sure hated going to the second round of the playoffs, didn't you? 36 points in game 6, what a waste! And maybe he should have signed for the league minimum, like all other franchise players do...

It was a great year. Go look at Melo's FG% that year. Now go look at Melo's FG% in the playoffs for that year.

I believe Melo was 3rd in MVP voting and that was 100% deserved. I did nothing but praise Melo for that entire season.

Shocking you remember Melo's great game 6 performance. You seem to have forgotten WHY that was an elimination game in the first place. Maybe go look up some box scores on bb reference and tell me how well Melo played in the whole series.

In fact go look at MElo's career shooting. Now go look at his playoff shooting. Notice a trend?

I know you got some butt-hurt from this trade but I think you will be OK. Or maybe not. Melo is right where he fits. 3rd option next to a center and wings who will cover for his poor defense. Its a great spot for him. Be happy.

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9/26/2017  9:16 AM
fishmike wrote:
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fitzfarm wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Man, what a terrible era and it sucked from the beginning to end . First we traded the farm for him because he couldn’t wait till the off season and wanted more money. Then he couldn’t play with Amar’e , then it was the coaches system didn’t fit, then he didn’t like linsanity, then MDA couldn’t deal with the melo drama, then one good year, then the worst years in knicks history,Phil, ntc when we should have let him walk, then it was the triangle, Porzingis, and then some of the worst melo drama till the end.

I like melo I think he’s not a bad guy he dose a lot off the court, but as a player F U C K melo.

The only era that sucked more then the melo era was the Isiah era, at least outta all of this we got Porzingis, and one good year .


Good bye melo smell ya later you stunk the life out of this team.

Forgot to mention how he Wasted all the talent we surrounded him with.

So now that we got rid of the reason we sucked, who do you think we will play in the finals this year?


Lol hopeful you can ask me that question in a few years.

Yea talent
Amar’e he couldn’t play with
Linsanty took away his spotlight
He couldn’t win with rose,Noah,KP,lee

But it was the coach
It was the system
It was the players/talent

It was never MELO


Who did lebron take to the chip in his first showdown before moving to miami

The 2006-07 Cleveland Cavs had way less talent then most of Melos Knick teams... melo is a big looser who doesn’t make his teammates better he makes them worse.

If we switched melo out with lebron and lebron had

Chandler
Amare
Lebron
Fields
Billips

The one hole was fields but that wouldn’t have stopped lebron from winning a chip with that team

He would have won a chip

Regardless ISO ball is finally dead again bye bye melo smell ya later

I wish him well buy I’m not going to hold my breath that he has success in okc

Chances are he will ruin the team chemistry there to by holding on the the ball forever and chucking up bad shots... remember old melo dose not take it to the hoop like young melo did he just settles for jump shots.... when asked if he would be ok with coming off the bench he laughed at his interview today... if i were him I wouldn’t laugh with his awful defense and iso ball its probably where he is headed

You are wasting your time, the trolls are pissed. It's never Melo's fault. Reading this thread is fun, the three or four of them are flailing their arms and grasping at straws to legitimize the Incredible Sulk as the greatest Knick of all time. Poor misunderstood Melo.

True, and we have to thank the nyc media for portraying melo as a star the whole time , we would have never gotten kanter if people realized melo is a washed up borderline all star. A glorified Rudy gay. With terrible advanced stats, again a chemistry killer.

Love melo the person, but again f u c k melo the player.

People keep referencing this "chemistry killer" thing, yet just about all of his teammates (both Denver and Knicks) speak glowingly about him. Mike Woodson loved the guy. In a 15 year career you can point out three people he had issues with: George Karl, MDA, and a mediocre player (Lin). But that makes him a "chemistry killer?"
Tyson and Amare said things as well. Melo has always been liked his teammates. He's a good guy. He's generous. He cares about people. He's a good (great really) philanthropist. He also plays basketball one way and simply refuses to budge from that. If that means dogging it and getting a coach fired so be it. He should have known better. Nobody tells Melo to go stand in a corner.

The Knicks were playing good ball under MDA for that stretch. Melo quit on him. I was not a fan of that. I showered Melo with praise the following year as he backed it up with what was probably a career year. After that? Back to holding the ball, apathy on defense and combine that with a less talented supporting cast and you get some years of bad basketball.

This thread is loaded with the spoutings of posters emotional investment in this player, positive and negative. He was a hell of a scorer. He could light it up any time and often he did. Overall he was a 2nd tier star, continued his pattern of stinking in the playoffs and didnt get much help in terms of supporting cast. He's the star, and he's going to take blame. Thats how it works for stars and QBs.

End of the day it wasnt that memorable. Winning big leaves a lasting impression. We won a playoff series. In a few years nobody is going to care about anything he did or didnt do here. Time to move on.


Holy ****, how long are we going to keep hearing about the Stat glory days? When genius MDA rode him and his uninsurable glass knees into the ground? I'm sure it's Melo's fault all those double doubles just disappeared suddenly and Amare managed to barely play the rest of the season. Or that Amare's go-to move became dribbling the ball off his feet and out of bounds? Were you actually watching, listening or even reading about how Stat played?

These threads are more like an explosion of Melo hate pus now that the zit's been popped, with the same repetition of non-facts and ignorance of anything remotely tied to reality.

But please, continue the celebration. Enjoy yourself. Let the overpaid team cancer pariah coach killing Lin hating Mardy gras exit parade continue...

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9/26/2017  9:27 AM
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:Melo was everything we traded for. A me first scorer who plays one way... his. His lousy playoff performances came with him also. We had one good really enjoyable year. The rest was about about him collecting massive paychecks and telling the world how great he was.

OKC is perfect for him. 3rd option is about right. Im sure he will do well in the role. Have fun Melo.

Yeah, one good year. I sure hated going to the second round of the playoffs, didn't you? 36 points in game 6, what a waste! And maybe he should have signed for the league minimum, like all other franchise players do...

It was a great year. Go look at Melo's FG% that year. Now go look at Melo's FG% in the playoffs for that year.

I believe Melo was 3rd in MVP voting and that was 100% deserved. I did nothing but praise Melo for that entire season.

Shocking you remember Melo's great game 6 performance. You seem to have forgotten WHY that was an elimination game in the first place. Maybe go look up some box scores on bb reference and tell me how well Melo played in the whole series.

In fact go look at MElo's career shooting. Now go look at his playoff shooting. Notice a trend?

I know you got some butt-hurt from this trade but I think you will be OK. Or maybe not. Melo is right where he fits. 3rd option next to a center and wings who will cover for his poor defense. Its a great spot for him. Be happy.


And trust me, I understand you're wallowing knee deep in spluge now that he's gone, but can you stop with the overly gracious front runner act?
His playoffs sucked. Except when they didn't. I praised him when he did well and then I hated on his azz when he didn't. Good for you. Flip flopping is a way of life, huh?

He collected massive paychecks. Because no one else here, or in the rest of the NBA, ever thought about getting paid massively. Notice you conveniently didn't respond to that.

Yes, and every playoff loss is on Melo, got it. I'll go memorize Melo's poor slash line when you can spout the shining performances of everyone around him.

You see, despite being a fan of Melo as a Knick, I've managed to remember it's a team game.

And I honestly don't give a rat's ass about OKC.

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9/26/2017  9:40 AM
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:Melo was everything we traded for. A me first scorer who plays one way... his. His lousy playoff performances came with him also. We had one good really enjoyable year. The rest was about about him collecting massive paychecks and telling the world how great he was.

OKC is perfect for him. 3rd option is about right. Im sure he will do well in the role. Have fun Melo.

Yeah, one good year. I sure hated going to the second round of the playoffs, didn't you? 36 points in game 6, what a waste! And maybe he should have signed for the league minimum, like all other franchise players do...

It was a great year. Go look at Melo's FG% that year. Now go look at Melo's FG% in the playoffs for that year.

I believe Melo was 3rd in MVP voting and that was 100% deserved. I did nothing but praise Melo for that entire season.

Shocking you remember Melo's great game 6 performance. You seem to have forgotten WHY that was an elimination game in the first place. Maybe go look up some box scores on bb reference and tell me how well Melo played in the whole series.

In fact go look at MElo's career shooting. Now go look at his playoff shooting. Notice a trend?

I know you got some butt-hurt from this trade but I think you will be OK. Or maybe not. Melo is right where he fits. 3rd option next to a center and wings who will cover for his poor defense. Its a great spot for him. Be happy.


And trust me, I understand you're wallowing knee deep in spluge now that he's gone, but can you stop with the overly gracious front runner act?
His playoffs sucked. Except when they didn't. I praised him when he did well and then I hated on his azz when he didn't. Good for you. Flip flopping is a way of life, huh?

He collected massive paychecks. Because no one else here, or in the rest of the NBA, ever thought about getting paid massively. Notice you conveniently didn't respond to that.

Yes, and every playoff loss is on Melo, got it. I'll go memorize Melo's poor slash line when you can spout the shining performances of everyone around him.

You see, despite being a fan of Melo as a Knick, I've managed to remember it's a team game.

And I honestly don't give a rat's ass about OKC.

Someone told you they stopped selling Melo/Knicks underoos didn't they?

I defended Melo on this board more than most, when I felt he was getting blamed for uninspired coaching, uninspired mgmt. decisions, uninspired teammates who often couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

Still glad the Melo years are over, hope KP can handle the expectations.

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9/26/2017  10:03 AM
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:Melo was everything we traded for. A me first scorer who plays one way... his. His lousy playoff performances came with him also. We had one good really enjoyable year. The rest was about about him collecting massive paychecks and telling the world how great he was.

OKC is perfect for him. 3rd option is about right. Im sure he will do well in the role. Have fun Melo.

Yeah, one good year. I sure hated going to the second round of the playoffs, didn't you? 36 points in game 6, what a waste! And maybe he should have signed for the league minimum, like all other franchise players do...

It was a great year. Go look at Melo's FG% that year. Now go look at Melo's FG% in the playoffs for that year.

I believe Melo was 3rd in MVP voting and that was 100% deserved. I did nothing but praise Melo for that entire season.

Shocking you remember Melo's great game 6 performance. You seem to have forgotten WHY that was an elimination game in the first place. Maybe go look up some box scores on bb reference and tell me how well Melo played in the whole series.

In fact go look at MElo's career shooting. Now go look at his playoff shooting. Notice a trend?

I know you got some butt-hurt from this trade but I think you will be OK. Or maybe not. Melo is right where he fits. 3rd option next to a center and wings who will cover for his poor defense. Its a great spot for him. Be happy.


And trust me, I understand you're wallowing knee deep in spluge now that he's gone, but can you stop with the overly gracious front runner act?
His playoffs sucked. Except when they didn't. I praised him when he did well and then I hated on his azz when he didn't. Good for you. Flip flopping is a way of life, huh?

He collected massive paychecks. Because no one else here, or in the rest of the NBA, ever thought about getting paid massively. Notice you conveniently didn't respond to that.

Yes, and every playoff loss is on Melo, got it. I'll go memorize Melo's poor slash line when you can spout the shining performances of everyone around him.

You see, despite being a fan of Melo as a Knick, I've managed to remember it's a team game.

And I honestly don't give a rat's ass about OKC.

Flip flopping is a way of life? Good one. Overly gracious front runner? Even more rich. How about simply calling it like one see's it? What you have is simply denial. Is that your way of life? When your girlfriend blows your buddies do you remember all those good times you had together? Please. Wake up and grow up. Or maybe emotionally invest yourself in a better player next time. Sorry but he is what he is.

Im not happy at all to see him gone. Its another chapter in failed Knick management. Nothing more. I would have much preferred to see him part of a successful next era. However he said it best himself. He only stayed as long as he did for the money. Thats a direct quote from your hero. Flip flop... yea well, I am fishmike.

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9/26/2017  10:32 AM
Welpee wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Man, what a terrible era and it sucked from the beginning to end . First we traded the farm for him because he couldn’t wait till the off season and wanted more money. Then he couldn’t play with Amar’e , then it was the coaches system didn’t fit, then he didn’t like linsanity, then MDA couldn’t deal with the melo drama, then one good year, then the worst years in knicks history,Phil, ntc when we should have let him walk, then it was the triangle, Porzingis, and then some of the worst melo drama till the end.

I like melo I think he’s not a bad guy he dose a lot off the court, but as a player F U C K melo.

The only era that sucked more then the melo era was the Isiah era, at least outta all of this we got Porzingis, and one good year .


Good bye melo smell ya later you stunk the life out of this team.

Forgot to mention how he Wasted all the talent we surrounded him with.

So now that we got rid of the reason we sucked, who do you think we will play in the finals this year?


Lol hopeful you can ask me that question in a few years.

Yea talent
Amar’e he couldn’t play with
Linsanty took away his spotlight
He couldn’t win with rose,Noah,KP,lee

But it was the coach
It was the system
It was the players/talent

It was never MELO


Who did lebron take to the chip in his first showdown before moving to miami

The 2006-07 Cleveland Cavs had way less talent then most of Melos Knick teams... melo is a big looser who doesn’t make his teammates better he makes them worse.

If we switched melo out with lebron and lebron had

Chandler
Amare
Lebron
Fields
Billips

The one hole was fields but that wouldn’t have stopped lebron from winning a chip with that team

He would have won a chip

Regardless ISO ball is finally dead again bye bye melo smell ya later

I wish him well buy I’m not going to hold my breath that he has success in okc

Chances are he will ruin the team chemistry there to by holding on the the ball forever and chucking up bad shots... remember old melo dose not take it to the hoop like young melo did he just settles for jump shots.... when asked if he would be ok with coming off the bench he laughed at his interview today... if i were him I wouldn’t laugh with his awful defense and iso ball its probably where he is headed


There is a lot of revisionist stuff here. During Linsanity and post Linsanity Melo and Lin only played 17 games together. Lin sat out of the playoffs and USA basketball because he was going to be a free agent. Not sure how Melo got Lin the poison pill deal but if you can explain it pease do.
In regards to Amare the Knicks got 2/3 of a season of prime Amare. Melo wasn't around for most of that time. Amare played under 700 minutes in the 54 win season. Also, wtf is up with he couldn't win with Rose, Noah and Lee. Last season was a disaster as was the entire Phil era.

Talk about revisionist, how about Lin sat out cause he was injured?

I think he sat out because he wasn't 100%. From what I remembered he was cleared to play, it was on him to determine if he could go and he chose not to. Now, only Lin knows how his body felt so questioning a player for not playing due to injury is shaky ground. But I do remember it was his decision not to play.

my recollection as well

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9/26/2017  10:39 AM
Jrod,
Let it go and it will be gone.
Nobody blames exclusively. when you sell the star and raise expectations then it the player that always get the scorn.
Max money is that kind of thing when you don't win. Max players are paid to play max minutes.
MDA had little depth on the team that depleted its cupboard.
Melo tried to play MDA ball but gave up. Tried to be the Triangle Alpha but gave up. He said he would try, then he revolted.
Thats real regardless of fault and blame.
The Jason Kidd Era was a great season and we all knew the knicks were cooked by seasons end. Melo was great. The team exceeded expectations.
You really want to argue a post being gracious about Melo?
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9/26/2017  11:14 AM
Nalod wrote:Jrod,
Let it go and it will be gone.
Nobody blames exclusively. when you sell the star and raise expectations then it the player that always get the scorn.
Max money is that kind of thing when you don't win. Max players are paid to play max minutes.
MDA had little depth on the team that depleted its cupboard.
Melo tried to play MDA ball but gave up. Tried to be the Triangle Alpha but gave up. He said he would try, then he revolted.
Thats real regardless of fault and blame.

The Jason Kidd Era was a great season and we all knew the knicks were cooked by seasons end. Melo was great. The team exceeded expectations.
You really want to argue a post being gracious about Melo?

That's not the entire truth...Derek Fisher gave up on the triangle and was part of the reason he was fired. Jeff was allowed to incorporate his own ideologies until Big Chief triangle scrapped the idea....There were lots of flip-flopping regarding the triangle, Melo included but not exclusive.

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9/26/2017  11:16 AM
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Cartman718 wrote:well yeah we did do that, but only wilson chandler made something of it for the price. gallo was injury prone. we certainly got more longevity i think out of melo.

The longevity of what though, suckyness. Think of all the missed draft opportunities? Between the revolving door of players, coaches, front office . We never had a identity with melo, it was just melo drama and one good year, it wasn’t even a great year we lost to Roy Hibbert, yea that bust !

Again I like melo the person but his era was one of the worst in team history. The only good thing to come out of it was that we sucked good enough to get kp .

And his drama spilled over into kp this past summer and we almost lost him.

If Porzingis brings us to the promise land I will get on my knees and thank Anthony for one of the worst eras in knick history . Because he delivered us our savior !

one of the worst? surely not as bad as the isaiah led starbury, juice card, anucha, isaiah-dolan love affair, get-in-the-truck, eddy curry, jerome "garbage bag" james, steve francis era.

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9/26/2017  12:47 PM
Nalod wrote:Jrod,
Let it go and it will be gone.
Nobody blames exclusively. when you sell the star and raise expectations then it the player that always get the scorn.
Max money is that kind of thing when you don't win. Max players are paid to play max minutes.
MDA had little depth on the team that depleted its cupboard.
Melo tried to play MDA ball but gave up. Tried to be the Triangle Alpha but gave up. He said he would try, then he revolted.
Thats real regardless of fault and blame.
The Jason Kidd Era was a great season and we all knew the knicks were cooked by seasons end. Melo was great. The team exceeded expectations.
You really want to argue a post being gracious about Melo?

Yeah seriously. Melo's gone. Go start an ultimatemelo forum!
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9/26/2017  1:29 PM
Nalod wrote:Jrod,
Let it go and it will be gone.
Nobody blames exclusively. when you sell the star and raise expectations then it the player that always get the scorn.
Max money is that kind of thing when you don't win. Max players are paid to play max minutes.
MDA had little depth on the team that depleted its cupboard.
Melo tried to play MDA ball but gave up. Tried to be the Triangle Alpha but gave up. He said he would try, then he revolted.
Thats real regardless of fault and blame.
The Jason Kidd Era was a great season and we all knew the knicks were cooked by seasons end. Melo was great. The team exceeded expectations.
You really want to argue a post being gracious about Melo?

Nalod,
It's gone. Buh bye. We have a unicorn and a young frog who jumps!
Unfortunately, the pisspoor Melo hate parade continues.
MDA ball required more than Landry Fields and BrokeStat. Not exactly giving up on something that wasn't there to begin with.
Big Chief brought his rings, waved them in the air, and did little else, besides hire and appoint dysfunctional coaches. Melo revolted? Who was holding the press conferences and writing "Charlie Says" ghost articles?
Real is what you behold from where you are.
You lost me at the "Jason Kidd Era".
Gracious would be: Buh bye Mooby, hello Enes.
End the hate, it's over.

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9/26/2017  2:09 PM
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:Melo was everything we traded for. A me first scorer who plays one way... his. His lousy playoff performances came with him also. We had one good really enjoyable year. The rest was about about him collecting massive paychecks and telling the world how great he was.

OKC is perfect for him. 3rd option is about right. Im sure he will do well in the role. Have fun Melo.

Yeah, one good year. I sure hated going to the second round of the playoffs, didn't you? 36 points in game 6, what a waste! And maybe he should have signed for the league minimum, like all other franchise players do...

It was a great year. Go look at Melo's FG% that year. Now go look at Melo's FG% in the playoffs for that year.

I believe Melo was 3rd in MVP voting and that was 100% deserved. I did nothing but praise Melo for that entire season.

Shocking you remember Melo's great game 6 performance. You seem to have forgotten WHY that was an elimination game in the first place. Maybe go look up some box scores on bb reference and tell me how well Melo played in the whole series.

In fact go look at MElo's career shooting. Now go look at his playoff shooting. Notice a trend?

I know you got some butt-hurt from this trade but I think you will be OK. Or maybe not. Melo is right where he fits. 3rd option next to a center and wings who will cover for his poor defense. Its a great spot for him. Be happy.

Bahahaha. Still trying to win the argument. Your full of made up jargon and hiding behind bull****.

Ahh, the field goal % argument, good for tgise that dis not see that season, watched that series or know anything about basketball. Is that the best you have for putting down an MVP candidate year? Gtfoh! I guess the amazing contributions of Shump, Felton, Smith and Chandler were just let down by that 40% percentage of a mediocre participant.

Btw. Love the way you always rush to accusing guys of butt hurting, masturbating, when they tell you Melo was not the cause of all your pain. What gives?

Btw, ALL Melo fans are extremely happy he got traded. But guess we expected you to be wrong about that angle as well.

But okay lets end the Melo debate. Only one question that would proof your hater view is right.
Please name which years, that Melo was here, you, the all knowing Bball guru, thoight we had the right pieces in place to win a playoff series?

And please don't change the subject by bringing out all the other made up speculations, fan perspectives, rumored fact I.e....leader, professionalism, baby momma, not taking guys to PR, not being a mentor, good team mate, what a reporter on a very well known blog site with 39 followers said, or what your aunt's cousin sisters dogs trainer confirmed aboit him.

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9/26/2017  3:28 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:Melo was everything we traded for. A me first scorer who plays one way... his. His lousy playoff performances came with him also. We had one good really enjoyable year. The rest was about about him collecting massive paychecks and telling the world how great he was.

OKC is perfect for him. 3rd option is about right. Im sure he will do well in the role. Have fun Melo.

Yeah, one good year. I sure hated going to the second round of the playoffs, didn't you? 36 points in game 6, what a waste! And maybe he should have signed for the league minimum, like all other franchise players do...

It was a great year. Go look at Melo's FG% that year. Now go look at Melo's FG% in the playoffs for that year.

I believe Melo was 3rd in MVP voting and that was 100% deserved. I did nothing but praise Melo for that entire season.

Shocking you remember Melo's great game 6 performance. You seem to have forgotten WHY that was an elimination game in the first place. Maybe go look up some box scores on bb reference and tell me how well Melo played in the whole series.

In fact go look at MElo's career shooting. Now go look at his playoff shooting. Notice a trend?

I know you got some butt-hurt from this trade but I think you will be OK. Or maybe not. Melo is right where he fits. 3rd option next to a center and wings who will cover for his poor defense. Its a great spot for him. Be happy.

Bahahaha. Still trying to win the argument. Your full of made up jargon and hiding behind bull****.

Ahh, the field goal % argument, good for tgise that dis not see that season, watched that series or know anything about basketball. Is that the best you have for putting down an MVP candidate year? Gtfoh! I guess the amazing contributions of Shump, Felton, Smith and Chandler were just let down by that 40% percentage of a mediocre participant.

Btw. Love the way you always rush to accusing guys of butt hurting, masturbating, when they tell you Melo was not the cause of all your pain. What gives?

Btw, ALL Melo fans are extremely happy he got traded. But guess we expected you to be wrong about that angle as well.

But okay lets end the Melo debate. Only one question that would proof your hater view is right.
Please name which years, that Melo was here, you, the all knowing Bball guru, thoight we had the right pieces in place to win a playoff series?

And please don't change the subject by bringing out all the other made up speculations, fan perspectives, rumored fact I.e....leader, professionalism, baby momma, not taking guys to PR, not being a mentor, good team mate, what a reporter on a very well known blog site with 39 followers said, or what your aunt's cousin sisters dogs trainer confirmed aboit him.

If you think melo actually helped this TEAM create a winning environment, cause that’s what STARS do. Melo couldn’t even do that on the 54 win team, thanks JKidd a real star. Melo was a all star, never a super star like a lot of melo lovers like to portray him as .

Melo is like having a declining Allen iverson on your team, he dose nothing but ruin team ball movement offensive chemistry of a TEAM. The iso ball worked in his prime, because he had all star level skills, now he just looks like a declining ball chucker who plays no defense.

Like I said I don’t know if melo has success in okc, he’s never changes his game, why would he in okc ? I could see melo riding the pine like kanter did in the playoffs because he’s such a defensive liability and is a black hole on offense.

OKC could be Melos worst nightmare

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9/26/2017  3:53 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:Melo was everything we traded for. A me first scorer who plays one way... his. His lousy playoff performances came with him also. We had one good really enjoyable year. The rest was about about him collecting massive paychecks and telling the world how great he was.

OKC is perfect for him. 3rd option is about right. Im sure he will do well in the role. Have fun Melo.

Yeah, one good year. I sure hated going to the second round of the playoffs, didn't you? 36 points in game 6, what a waste! And maybe he should have signed for the league minimum, like all other franchise players do...

It was a great year. Go look at Melo's FG% that year. Now go look at Melo's FG% in the playoffs for that year.

I believe Melo was 3rd in MVP voting and that was 100% deserved. I did nothing but praise Melo for that entire season.

Shocking you remember Melo's great game 6 performance. You seem to have forgotten WHY that was an elimination game in the first place. Maybe go look up some box scores on bb reference and tell me how well Melo played in the whole series.

In fact go look at MElo's career shooting. Now go look at his playoff shooting. Notice a trend?

I know you got some butt-hurt from this trade but I think you will be OK. Or maybe not. Melo is right where he fits. 3rd option next to a center and wings who will cover for his poor defense. Its a great spot for him. Be happy.

Bahahaha. Still trying to win the argument. Your full of made up jargon and hiding behind bull****.

Ahh, the field goal % argument, good for tgise that dis not see that season, watched that series or know anything about basketball. Is that the best you have for putting down an MVP candidate year? Gtfoh! I guess the amazing contributions of Shump, Felton, Smith and Chandler were just let down by that 40% percentage of a mediocre participant.

Btw. Love the way you always rush to accusing guys of butt hurting, masturbating, when they tell you Melo was not the cause of all your pain. What gives?

Btw, ALL Melo fans are extremely happy he got traded. But guess we expected you to be wrong about that angle as well.

But okay lets end the Melo debate. Only one question that would proof your hater view is right.
Please name which years, that Melo was here, you, the all knowing Bball guru, thoight we had the right pieces in place to win a playoff series?

And please don't change the subject by bringing out all the other made up speculations, fan perspectives, rumored fact I.e....leader, professionalism, baby momma, not taking guys to PR, not being a mentor, good team mate, what a reporter on a very well known blog site with 39 followers said, or what your aunt's cousin sisters dogs trainer confirmed aboit him.

The subject is simple. Melo's failures are reflected in the numbers. You are just unable to see them because your a Melo homer. He's your hero. I get it. You have established that. Im not. Im a Knick fan and I have no allegence to a player ABOVE the team. Its that simple. Melo has performed poorly many times, and he's got a track record of shooting his teams out of playoffs games.

Oh.. and the Knicks had home court vs. Indiana. The Knicks were the #2 seed. They should have won. They were the better team. However we entered game 6 down 3-2.
Game 1, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 10-28
Game 3, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 6-16
Game 4, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 9-23

So yea... I would expect you to only remember the great game 6 he had. Your a Melo fan. However as a Knick fan I remember being down 3-2 to a lower seed because your hero shot us out of those games.

Any other questions?

Yea.. Im a hater. You simply refuse to look at the guy's body of work, and understand his failures are just that. HIS. Cause he performed POORLY. I used caps to help you see it. Your welcome.

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9/26/2017  4:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/26/2017  4:35 PM
fishmike wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:Melo was everything we traded for. A me first scorer who plays one way... his. His lousy playoff performances came with him also. We had one good really enjoyable year. The rest was about about him collecting massive paychecks and telling the world how great he was.

OKC is perfect for him. 3rd option is about right. Im sure he will do well in the role. Have fun Melo.

Yeah, one good year. I sure hated going to the second round of the playoffs, didn't you? 36 points in game 6, what a waste! And maybe he should have signed for the league minimum, like all other franchise players do...

It was a great year. Go look at Melo's FG% that year. Now go look at Melo's FG% in the playoffs for that year.

I believe Melo was 3rd in MVP voting and that was 100% deserved. I did nothing but praise Melo for that entire season.

Shocking you remember Melo's great game 6 performance. You seem to have forgotten WHY that was an elimination game in the first place. Maybe go look up some box scores on bb reference and tell me how well Melo played in the whole series.

In fact go look at MElo's career shooting. Now go look at his playoff shooting. Notice a trend?

I know you got some butt-hurt from this trade but I think you will be OK. Or maybe not. Melo is right where he fits. 3rd option next to a center and wings who will cover for his poor defense. Its a great spot for him. Be happy.

Bahahaha. Still trying to win the argument. Your full of made up jargon and hiding behind bull****.

Ahh, the field goal % argument, good for tgise that dis not see that season, watched that series or know anything about basketball. Is that the best you have for putting down an MVP candidate year? Gtfoh! I guess the amazing contributions of Shump, Felton, Smith and Chandler were just let down by that 40% percentage of a mediocre participant.

Btw. Love the way you always rush to accusing guys of butt hurting, masturbating, when they tell you Melo was not the cause of all your pain. What gives?

Btw, ALL Melo fans are extremely happy he got traded. But guess we expected you to be wrong about that angle as well.

But okay lets end the Melo debate. Only one question that would proof your hater view is right.
Please name which years, that Melo was here, you, the all knowing Bball guru, thoight we had the right pieces in place to win a playoff series?

And please don't change the subject by bringing out all the other made up speculations, fan perspectives, rumored fact I.e....leader, professionalism, baby momma, not taking guys to PR, not being a mentor, good team mate, what a reporter on a very well known blog site with 39 followers said, or what your aunt's cousin sisters dogs trainer confirmed aboit him.

The subject is simple. Melo's failures are reflected in the numbers. You are just unable to see them because your a Melo homer. He's your hero. I get it. You have established that. Im not. Im a Knick fan and I have no allegence to a player ABOVE the team. Its that simple. Melo has performed poorly many times, and he's got a track record of shooting his teams out of playoffs games.

Oh.. and the Knicks had home court vs. Indiana. The Knicks were the #2 seed. They should have won. They were the better team. However we entered game 6 down 3-2.
Game 1, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 10-28
Game 3, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 6-16
Game 4, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 9-23

So yea... I would expect you to only remember the great game 6 he had. Your a Melo fan. However as a Knick fan I remember being down 3-2 to a lower seed because your hero shot us out of those games.

Any other questions?

Yea.. Im a hater. You simply refuse to look at the guy's body of work, and understand his failures are just that. HIS. Cause he performed POORLY. I used caps to help you see it. Your welcome.

So the fact that the second leading scorer on that team (JR Smith) only shot 29% in that series and his scoring average dropped from 18 ppg during the season to 13 ppg and Jason Kidd barely played in the last two games is meaningless? It's all on Melo?
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9/26/2017  4:23 PM
Welpee wrote:
fishmike wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:Melo was everything we traded for. A me first scorer who plays one way... his. His lousy playoff performances came with him also. We had one good really enjoyable year. The rest was about about him collecting massive paychecks and telling the world how great he was.

OKC is perfect for him. 3rd option is about right. Im sure he will do well in the role. Have fun Melo.

Yeah, one good year. I sure hated going to the second round of the playoffs, didn't you? 36 points in game 6, what a waste! And maybe he should have signed for the league minimum, like all other franchise players do...

It was a great year. Go look at Melo's FG% that year. Now go look at Melo's FG% in the playoffs for that year.

I believe Melo was 3rd in MVP voting and that was 100% deserved. I did nothing but praise Melo for that entire season.

Shocking you remember Melo's great game 6 performance. You seem to have forgotten WHY that was an elimination game in the first place. Maybe go look up some box scores on bb reference and tell me how well Melo played in the whole series.

In fact go look at MElo's career shooting. Now go look at his playoff shooting. Notice a trend?

I know you got some butt-hurt from this trade but I think you will be OK. Or maybe not. Melo is right where he fits. 3rd option next to a center and wings who will cover for his poor defense. Its a great spot for him. Be happy.

Bahahaha. Still trying to win the argument. Your full of made up jargon and hiding behind bull****.

Ahh, the field goal % argument, good for tgise that dis not see that season, watched that series or know anything about basketball. Is that the best you have for putting down an MVP candidate year? Gtfoh! I guess the amazing contributions of Shump, Felton, Smith and Chandler were just let down by that 40% percentage of a mediocre participant.

Btw. Love the way you always rush to accusing guys of butt hurting, masturbating, when they tell you Melo was not the cause of all your pain. What gives?

Btw, ALL Melo fans are extremely happy he got traded. But guess we expected you to be wrong about that angle as well.

But okay lets end the Melo debate. Only one question that would proof your hater view is right.
Please name which years, that Melo was here, you, the all knowing Bball guru, thoight we had the right pieces in place to win a playoff series?

And please don't change the subject by bringing out all the other made up speculations, fan perspectives, rumored fact I.e....leader, professionalism, baby momma, not taking guys to PR, not being a mentor, good team mate, what a reporter on a very well known blog site with 39 followers said, or what your aunt's cousin sisters dogs trainer confirmed aboit him.

The subject is simple. Melo's failures are reflected in the numbers. You are just unable to see them because your a Melo homer. He's your hero. I get it. You have established that. Im not. Im a Knick fan and I have no allegence to a player ABOVE the team. Its that simple. Melo has performed poorly many times, and he's got a track record of shooting his teams out of playoffs games.

Oh.. and the Knicks had home court vs. Indiana. The Knicks were the #2 seed. They should have won. They were the better team. However we entered game 6 down 3-2.
Game 1, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 10-28
Game 3, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 6-16
Game 4, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 9-23

So yea... I would expect you to only remember the great game 6 he had. Your a Melo fan. However as a Knick fan I remember being down 3-2 to a lower seed because your hero shot us out of those games.

Any other questions?

Yea.. Im a hater. You simply refuse to look at the guy's body of work, and understand his failures are just that. HIS. Cause he performed POORLY. I used caps to help you see it. Your welcome.

So the fact that the second leading scorer on that team (JR Smith) only shot 29% in that series and his scoring averaged dropped from 18 ppg during the season to 13 ppg and Jason Kidd barely played in the last two games is meaningless? It's all on Melo?
Don't forget about Tyson turning into Mrs. Hibbert. The second best Knick in that series might have been Felton.
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9/26/2017  4:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/26/2017  4:59 PM
fishmike wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:Melo was everything we traded for. A me first scorer who plays one way... his. His lousy playoff performances came with him also. We had one good really enjoyable year. The rest was about about him collecting massive paychecks and telling the world how great he was.

OKC is perfect for him. 3rd option is about right. Im sure he will do well in the role. Have fun Melo.

Yeah, one good year. I sure hated going to the second round of the playoffs, didn't you? 36 points in game 6, what a waste! And maybe he should have signed for the league minimum, like all other franchise players do...

It was a great year. Go look at Melo's FG% that year. Now go look at Melo's FG% in the playoffs for that year.

I believe Melo was 3rd in MVP voting and that was 100% deserved. I did nothing but praise Melo for that entire season.

Shocking you remember Melo's great game 6 performance. You seem to have forgotten WHY that was an elimination game in the first place. Maybe go look up some box scores on bb reference and tell me how well Melo played in the whole series.

In fact go look at MElo's career shooting. Now go look at his playoff shooting. Notice a trend?

I know you got some butt-hurt from this trade but I think you will be OK. Or maybe not. Melo is right where he fits. 3rd option next to a center and wings who will cover for his poor defense. Its a great spot for him. Be happy.

Bahahaha. Still trying to win the argument. Your full of made up jargon and hiding behind bull****.

Ahh, the field goal % argument, good for tgise that dis not see that season, watched that series or know anything about basketball. Is that the best you have for putting down an MVP candidate year? Gtfoh! I guess the amazing contributions of Shump, Felton, Smith and Chandler were just let down by that 40% percentage of a mediocre participant.

Btw. Love the way you always rush to accusing guys of butt hurting, masturbating, when they tell you Melo was not the cause of all your pain. What gives?

Btw, ALL Melo fans are extremely happy he got traded. But guess we expected you to be wrong about that angle as well.

But okay lets end the Melo debate. Only one question that would proof your hater view is right.
Please name which years, that Melo was here, you, the all knowing Bball guru, thoight we had the right pieces in place to win a playoff series?

And please don't change the subject by bringing out all the other made up speculations, fan perspectives, rumored fact I.e....leader, professionalism, baby momma, not taking guys to PR, not being a mentor, good team mate, what a reporter on a very well known blog site with 39 followers said, or what your aunt's cousin sisters dogs trainer confirmed aboit him.

The subject is simple. Melo's failures are reflected in the numbers. You are just unable to see them because your a Melo homer. He's your hero. I get it. You have established that. Im not. Im a Knick fan and I have no allegence to a player ABOVE the team. Its that simple. Melo has performed poorly many times, and he's got a track record of shooting his teams out of playoffs games.

Oh.. and the Knicks had home court vs. Indiana. The Knicks were the #2 seed. They should have won. They were the better team. However we entered game 6 down 3-2.
Game 1, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 10-28
Game 3, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 6-16
Game 4, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 9-23

So yea... I would expect you to only remember the great game 6 he had. Your a Melo fan. However as a Knick fan I remember being down 3-2 to a lower seed because your hero shot us out of those games.

Any other questions?

Yea.. Im a hater. You simply refuse to look at the guy's body of work, and understand his failures are just that. HIS. Cause he performed POORLY. I used caps to help you see it. Your welcome.

Typical. Useless rant without answering the ONE question I asked. Because that would prove your just a hater.

Great change of subject. Again, If you knew anything about logic or basketball, you would realize, that by pointing out a team was able to stop ONE player and win a series, it proves my point that the team was made up of ONE good player surrounded by a bunch of mediocre bench or future retiree's. (As most of those players went on to prove once they left the Knicks) But okay, great point. Let me bring up all the HOF players, on chip teams that were stopped by another teams collective defensive effort and double teams. It's called letting the other players beat you. Specially if the other players suck. But you know that from all your playing experience. So how does that dispute my point that the team had nobody but Melo?7

And keep pretending like attacking stupid logic means we are not Knick fans. It's not a Melo thing, it's a stupid New York fan ideology thing. The one that thinks that ONE player should bring us a chip. Specially the ones that make 100 times more money than they do. Or the idea that this organazation knew what the Fuck it was doing the last 7 years. But keep believing that. As that is what Dolan wants everyone to believe. As he takes our money and blinds the stupid that think its really just ONE players fault for the organazational failure. Or that believe a starphucked coach running an antiquated system was the answer.

Still waiting for the answer to my question.

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9/26/2017  6:53 PM
HofstraBBall wrote: Only one question that would proof your hater view is right.
Please name which years, that Melo was here, you, the all knowing Bball guru, thoight we had the right pieces in place to win a playoff series?

You asked this. I gave you the playoff series we should have won. It was during the 54 win season vs the Pacers. Knicks were #2 seed and had home court. Pacers were #3 seed.

We had the pieces to win that series, however the team did not play well. Starting with our star player, leader, alpha... whatever your posters say.

fishmike wrote:Oh.. and the Knicks had home court vs. Indiana. The Knicks were the #2 seed. They should have won. They were the better team. However we entered game 6 down 3-2.
Game 1, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 10-28
Game 3, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 6-16
Game 4, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 9-23

Im not sure how I can be more direct or simple. You asked a question. I gave you an answer backed with data. Melo has been a poor playoff performer. He was here as well. In talking about the "Melo era" as is the thread of this title, when thinking about Melo's career here those games stand out painfully. Unlike say John Starks and his painful (1-17) game, Melo lacks John's body of successful work to alleviate some of the pain that memory causes.

You hear blame. I just see poor play.

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9/26/2017  7:06 PM
Welpee wrote:
fishmike wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:Melo was everything we traded for. A me first scorer who plays one way... his. His lousy playoff performances came with him also. We had one good really enjoyable year. The rest was about about him collecting massive paychecks and telling the world how great he was.

OKC is perfect for him. 3rd option is about right. Im sure he will do well in the role. Have fun Melo.

Yeah, one good year. I sure hated going to the second round of the playoffs, didn't you? 36 points in game 6, what a waste! And maybe he should have signed for the league minimum, like all other franchise players do...

It was a great year. Go look at Melo's FG% that year. Now go look at Melo's FG% in the playoffs for that year.

I believe Melo was 3rd in MVP voting and that was 100% deserved. I did nothing but praise Melo for that entire season.

Shocking you remember Melo's great game 6 performance. You seem to have forgotten WHY that was an elimination game in the first place. Maybe go look up some box scores on bb reference and tell me how well Melo played in the whole series.

In fact go look at MElo's career shooting. Now go look at his playoff shooting. Notice a trend?

I know you got some butt-hurt from this trade but I think you will be OK. Or maybe not. Melo is right where he fits. 3rd option next to a center and wings who will cover for his poor defense. Its a great spot for him. Be happy.

Bahahaha. Still trying to win the argument. Your full of made up jargon and hiding behind bull****.

Ahh, the field goal % argument, good for tgise that dis not see that season, watched that series or know anything about basketball. Is that the best you have for putting down an MVP candidate year? Gtfoh! I guess the amazing contributions of Shump, Felton, Smith and Chandler were just let down by that 40% percentage of a mediocre participant.

Btw. Love the way you always rush to accusing guys of butt hurting, masturbating, when they tell you Melo was not the cause of all your pain. What gives?

Btw, ALL Melo fans are extremely happy he got traded. But guess we expected you to be wrong about that angle as well.

But okay lets end the Melo debate. Only one question that would proof your hater view is right.
Please name which years, that Melo was here, you, the all knowing Bball guru, thoight we had the right pieces in place to win a playoff series?

And please don't change the subject by bringing out all the other made up speculations, fan perspectives, rumored fact I.e....leader, professionalism, baby momma, not taking guys to PR, not being a mentor, good team mate, what a reporter on a very well known blog site with 39 followers said, or what your aunt's cousin sisters dogs trainer confirmed aboit him.

The subject is simple. Melo's failures are reflected in the numbers. You are just unable to see them because your a Melo homer. He's your hero. I get it. You have established that. Im not. Im a Knick fan and I have no allegence to a player ABOVE the team. Its that simple. Melo has performed poorly many times, and he's got a track record of shooting his teams out of playoffs games.

Oh.. and the Knicks had home court vs. Indiana. The Knicks were the #2 seed. They should have won. They were the better team. However we entered game 6 down 3-2.
Game 1, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 10-28
Game 3, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 6-16
Game 4, Knicks lose, Melo shoots 9-23

So yea... I would expect you to only remember the great game 6 he had. Your a Melo fan. However as a Knick fan I remember being down 3-2 to a lower seed because your hero shot us out of those games.

Any other questions?

Yea.. Im a hater. You simply refuse to look at the guy's body of work, and understand his failures are just that. HIS. Cause he performed POORLY. I used caps to help you see it. Your welcome.

So the fact that the second leading scorer on that team (JR Smith) only shot 29% in that series and his scoring average dropped from 18 ppg during the season to 13 ppg and Jason Kidd barely played in the last two games is meaningless? It's all on Melo?

One thing I think you guys are missing is that the title (and idea) of the thread is that the Melo era sucked. So of course that means other players in the era were really disappointing too. The title doesn't say Melo sucked. For most of his tenure here he was a good player who was paid and expected to be a great player. That in itself is a problem but it's not the same as saying Melo sucked (which would mean he was a bad NBA player).
The Melo era sucked

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