meloshouldgo wrote:The thing is no one truly wants Melo anymore, that includes 30 NBA teams and LaLa. There may be some teams who are willing to try him as a one season rental especially if its for free - that's about it.

Meloshouldgo:

Melo, Frank and Timmy;

HofstraBBall wrote:

nixluva wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.

They should do what any respected professional franchise would do. Move on by taking the hit for signing him to a NTC and changing directions. All respectable businesses know they have to pay the price for a mistake. They take it like men and move on. Specially after the previous Prez trashed him. But most Knick fans want to keep acting like this is a middle school team and they can force players to do anything they want even after screwing them. What are the long term repercussions of being a unprofessional franchise? Clue...look at the Knicks. Would hate to do business with that type of mindset. Mills hits me as that type as well. Reason why I think the Knicks are not any closer to being a respectable franchise. We have the same slimy guys at the top. Luckily for Melo, he has all the power and will win out by forcing the back stabbing front office to deal him to a place that is best for him.

Btw Briggs...do you expect people you screw over and trash publicly, to help you out? Where does this thinking come from? Why would Melo help the Knicks out? For fans like you that would throw a player to the gutter for yiurniwn selfish interest? I know I wouldn't. And dedinately would not waive my trade kicker.

Melo is being ridiculous with giving only ONE OPTION so F Melo! Let him stay until we can get a better deal for the franchise.

You don't know if Mills is slimy and actually many of the old Front Office guys have good reputations. The narrative you've bought into is mostly Media Driven and there are lots of agendas behind that. Melo would be gone already if not for his ridiculous stance of only one destination.

Contrary to your and Melo's belief he does not hold all the cards because the Knicks don't have to trade him. Taking on a bad contract is more detrimental than Melo's presence next season would be!

Ridiculous? So exercising his NTC that Phil gave him after being trashed is ridiculous? Spoken like a true selfish fan. Props. He holds all the cards. He will go to his desired destination. Or stay. Think he is ok with both. But know he will be in Houston before the season starts. Knicks know it roo.

My issue is narrowing it to only ONE TEAM! That is some BS and I hope the Knicks refuse to make a deal that doesn't benefit the team. I'm a KNICKS FAN so by nature I'm selfish for my team. If Melo isn't being reasonable he can go kick rocks!!! You're making me question if you're truly a Knicks Fan with the way you're talking.

Seems to me Melo is not going to be traded if the only option is taking back Ryan Anderson. I can live with Melo staying rather than screw up our future just to trade him.

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Sangfroid wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.

They should do what any respected professional franchise would do. Move on by taking the hit for signing him to a NTC and changing directions. All respectable businesses know they have to pay the price for a mistake. They take it like men and move on. Specially after the previous Prez trashed him. But most Knick fans want to keep acting like this is a middle school team and they can force players to do anything they want even after screwing them. What are the long term repercussions of being a unprofessional franchise? Clue...look at the Knicks. Would hate to do business with that type of mindset. Mills hits me as that type as well. Reason why I think the Knicks are not any closer to being a respectable franchise. We have the same slimy guys at the top. Luckily for Melo, he has all the power and will win out by forcing the back stabbing front office to deal him to a place that is best for him.

Btw Briggs...do you expect people you screw over and trash publicly, to help you out? Where does this thinking come from? Why would Melo help the Knicks out? For fans like you that would throw a player to the gutter for yiurniwn selfish interest? I know I wouldn't. And dedinately would not waive my trade kicker.

Melo is being ridiculous with giving only ONE OPTION so F Melo! Let him stay until we can get a better deal for the franchise.

You don't know if Mills is slimy and actually many of the old Front Office guys have good reputations. The narrative you've bought into is mostly Media Driven and there are lots of agendas behind that. Melo would be gone already if not for his ridiculous stance of only one destination.

Contrary to your and Melo's belief he does not hold all the cards because the Knicks don't have to trade him. Taking on a bad contract is more detrimental than Melo's presence next season would be!

Phil and Dolan were ridiculous when they gave him this contract. Melo gave us 1 more team than he has to.

Following that train of thought, the Knicks are not obligated to trade Melo because he wants to be elsewhere. The team may have erred in giving him a NTC, but Melo also erred in signing it. They are BOTH committed to each other for four years, with the fifth year being an opt out year. If Melo's desire is to be elsewhere AND take the money, he too will need to be more creative.

Melo didn't err in signing it. It gives him the power to determine which teams he can be traded to. You're right we don't have to trade him. No team has to trade any player. Given everything that's transpired, it seems like a bad idea for us to bring him back but we are free to make bad decisions.

So we should bend over for him again, like we did when he first came to us? Maybe take back a lousy contract or a few players of lesser ability. Better yet, maybe we ca pay him to go away. It's not that kind of world my friend. Well at least from my viewpoint.

Sangfroid wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.

They should do what any respected professional franchise would do. Move on by taking the hit for signing him to a NTC and changing directions. All respectable businesses know they have to pay the price for a mistake. They take it like men and move on. Specially after the previous Prez trashed him. But most Knick fans want to keep acting like this is a middle school team and they can force players to do anything they want even after screwing them. What are the long term repercussions of being a unprofessional franchise? Clue...look at the Knicks. Would hate to do business with that type of mindset. Mills hits me as that type as well. Reason why I think the Knicks are not any closer to being a respectable franchise. We have the same slimy guys at the top. Luckily for Melo, he has all the power and will win out by forcing the back stabbing front office to deal him to a place that is best for him.

Btw Briggs...do you expect people you screw over and trash publicly, to help you out? Where does this thinking come from? Why would Melo help the Knicks out? For fans like you that would throw a player to the gutter for yiurniwn selfish interest? I know I wouldn't. And dedinately would not waive my trade kicker.

Melo is being ridiculous with giving only ONE OPTION so F Melo! Let him stay until we can get a better deal for the franchise.

You don't know if Mills is slimy and actually many of the old Front Office guys have good reputations. The narrative you've bought into is mostly Media Driven and there are lots of agendas behind that. Melo would be gone already if not for his ridiculous stance of only one destination.

Contrary to your and Melo's belief he does not hold all the cards because the Knicks don't have to trade him. Taking on a bad contract is more detrimental than Melo's presence next season would be!

Phil and Dolan were ridiculous when they gave him this contract. Melo gave us 1 more team than he has to.

Following that train of thought, the Knicks are not obligated to trade Melo because he wants to be elsewhere. The team may have erred in giving him a NTC, but Melo also erred in signing it. They are BOTH committed to each other for four years, with the fifth year being an opt out year. If Melo's desire is to be elsewhere AND take the money, he too will need to be more creative.

Melo didn't err in signing it. It gives him the power to determine which teams he can be traded to. You're right we don't have to trade him. No team has to trade any player. Given everything that's transpired, it seems like a bad idea for us to bring him back but we are free to make bad decisions.

So we should bend over for him again, like we did when he first came to us? Maybe take back a lousy contract or a few players of lesser ability. Better yet, maybe we ca pay him to go away. It's not that kind of world my friend. Well at least from my viewpoint.

meloshouldgo wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:The thing is no one truly wants Melo anymore, that includes 30 NBA teams and LaLa. There may be some teams who are willing to try him as a one season rental especially if its for free - that's about it.

You have absolutely no idea if that is accurate.

It's a broad generalized statement it's almost a given its not accurate, do you really take everything literally and do you have a sense of humor at all?

Bonn1997 wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:The thing is no one truly wants Melo anymore, that includes 30 NBA teams and LaLa. There may be some teams who are willing to try him as a one season rental especially if its for free - that's about it.

You have absolutely no idea if that is accurate.

It's a broad generalized statement it's almost a given its not accurate, do you really take everything literally and do you have a sense of humor at all?

I had no idea you were joking. Maybe put some smiley faces in when you are.

Nah, I would rather keep y'all guessing. 😀

meloshouldgo wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:The thing is no one truly wants Melo anymore, that includes 30 NBA teams and LaLa. There may be some teams who are willing to try him as a one season rental especially if its for free - that's about it.

You have absolutely no idea if that is accurate.

It's a broad generalized statement it's almost a given its not accurate, do you really take everything literally and do you have a sense of humor at all?

Yes.

Nalod wrote:
Advanced metrics show playing basketball is good for NBA players.

You have permission to use sarcasm without smileys? Hoe the hell did you get that?
Do you like chicken?? [sic]

nixluva wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

nixluva wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.

They should do what any respected professional franchise would do. Move on by taking the hit for signing him to a NTC and changing directions. All respectable businesses know they have to pay the price for a mistake. They take it like men and move on. Specially after the previous Prez trashed him. But most Knick fans want to keep acting like this is a middle school team and they can force players to do anything they want even after screwing them. What are the long term repercussions of being a unprofessional franchise? Clue...look at the Knicks. Would hate to do business with that type of mindset. Mills hits me as that type as well. Reason why I think the Knicks are not any closer to being a respectable franchise. We have the same slimy guys at the top. Luckily for Melo, he has all the power and will win out by forcing the back stabbing front office to deal him to a place that is best for him.

Btw Briggs...do you expect people you screw over and trash publicly, to help you out? Where does this thinking come from? Why would Melo help the Knicks out? For fans like you that would throw a player to the gutter for yiurniwn selfish interest? I know I wouldn't. And dedinately would not waive my trade kicker.

Melo is being ridiculous with giving only ONE OPTION so F Melo! Let him stay until we can get a better deal for the franchise.

You don't know if Mills is slimy and actually many of the old Front Office guys have good reputations. The narrative you've bought into is mostly Media Driven and there are lots of agendas behind that. Melo would be gone already if not for his ridiculous stance of only one destination.

Contrary to your and Melo's belief he does not hold all the cards because the Knicks don't have to trade him. Taking on a bad contract is more detrimental than Melo's presence next season would be!

Ridiculous? So exercising his NTC that Phil gave him after being trashed is ridiculous? Spoken like a true selfish fan. Props. He holds all the cards. He will go to his desired destination. Or stay. Think he is ok with both. But know he will be in Houston before the season starts. Knicks know it roo.

My issue is narrowing it to only ONE TEAM! That is some BS and I hope the Knicks refuse to make a deal that doesn't benefit the team. I'm a KNICKS FAN so by nature I'm selfish for my team. If Melo isn't being reasonable he can go kick rocks!!! You're making me question if you're truly a Knicks Fan with the way you're talking.

Seems to me Melo is not going to be traded if the only option is taking back Ryan Anderson. I can live with Melo staying rather than screw up our future just to trade him.

Well that explains why you think Melo's decision is ridiculous. You're admittedly not even trying to view the decision from his perspective. How can you evaluate that his decision is ridiculous if you don't even try to view it from his perspective?
That's like telling me that I should never eat chicken because you don't like the way it tastes.

Why do I need to see things from Melo's perspective? It's obvious what his perspective is! F the Knicks as long as I get everything I want. That's his view and so I say F Melo!!! I have more loyalty and concern for the Team. In Melo's scenario the Knicks get screwed so I can't agree with Melo's side of things. There are deals were both can benefit but Melo has reduced it to one team so the Knicks would actually hurt themselves! Why would I want that or feel any empathy for Melo's side?

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Feels like Im watching some footage smuggled out of a foreign country. Nice to see them playing together, but I want to see it in HD!

Frank, THJ, and others have been quoted that they want Melo back. That and voting him miss congeniality, or whatever the award was, makes a reunion easier.

As long as the players and coach are on the same page, the rest should be able to work itself out, if Melo comes back.

With Phil gone, Perry spending more time with Melo, easing tensions, is good for the Knicks, beyond this situation.